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Cross platform doesn't defeat encryption, though integrating through Google messages would. The solution is entirely available to Apple, make an app for Android with encryption.

Continuing to send unencrypted messages to Android phones rather than creating an iMessage app on Android is ludicrous. Apple is actively harming their customers to maintain a competitive advantage.
Apple is not harming their customers in any way on this, people choose to use Android or Windows.For many Apple users, Messages is the reason they bought an iPhone or other Apple device. It's not in Apple's business interests to offer it on competing platforms. As you said, there are other apps that "offer" E2E encryption, so the argument that Apple needs to do the same is superfluous at best. WhatsApp is the most used messaging app on the planet right now, followed by Facebook Messenger- both owned by Facebook/Meta, a company hardly synonymous with privacy. Choose wisely!
 
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I didn't find the support for Android phones to be particularly good, so I stopped using it. I doubt the iPhone support will be better. Microsoft has some experience with Android and they have a Mac team with iOS support in Visual Studio, but that doesn't mean they'll be good at it. They always seem to spend 100% of their time to give 65% of the solution.
 
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No cellular connection? No problem. iMessage works over the internet, not cellular. That's the difference. This enables "iMessage" messages to work with Windows, not just SMS text messages.
Will this work if your phone has no wifi or cellular, but your computer is hard wired? I would suspect not, but could be wrong.
 
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Its a nice idea, but not drag and dropping of images etc would make life hard.

I'm very thankful for the Mac ecosystem - it has made my working life and personal life infinitely more productive that it would have on a PC. Being able to text from my computer without limitations is massive.
That's only a limitation of IPhones on W11 not Android that has a lot more functionality than Iphone/Mac combo
 
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Apple is not harming their customers in any way on this, people choose to use Android or Windows.For many Apple users, Messages is the reason they bought an iPhone or other Apple device. It's not in Apple's business interests to offer it on competing platforms. As you said, there are other apps that "offer" E2E encryption, so the argument that Apple needs to do the same is superfluous at best. WhatsApp is the most used messaging app on the planet right now, followed by Facebook Messenger- both owned by Facebook/Meta, a company hardly synonymous with privacy. Choose wisely!

And if an Apple customer wants to use the default messaging app, provided by the company that claims to care about its customers privacy, the app sends an unencrypted message if the other user isn't using an Apple product. That absolutely hurts Apple's own customers for no reason other than for Apple to maintain a competitive advantage.
 
Does anyone feel like this is still a half-baked Windows App? This App would be perfect for Microsoft Lumia.

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Nope I don’t.

I heard through the inter-webs that this was Microsoft’s own employee training program. It first clears the mind of all previous thoughts, direction and sense of else, a mind wipe of you will.

The. By moving each icon box the employee, feeling mentally the age of a pre-schooler, can assemble the icon blocks to a false coherent list of accessible applications. Lol
 
Everyone knows the answer ready. Apple does it to lock in users.




But no worries. EU have fixed this already so prepare for ios 16

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I’m a bit surprised EU hasn’t addressed iMessage lock-in. Of course I have zero hope of US bought and paid for congress ever even thinking about thinking about considering looking into it.
 
And if an Apple customer wants to use the default messaging app, provided by the company that claims to care about its customers privacy, the app sends an unencrypted message if the other user isn't using an Apple product. That absolutely hurts Apple's own customers for no reason other than for Apple to maintain a competitive advantage.
Again thats a choice the consumer can make. But,SMS/MMS isn't encrypted between any platform, not just Apple.. You can also ask why Google and MS have failed to develop a compelling alternative. Google especially has been grossly inept at this and has just given up and resorted to whining endlessly.
 
Again thats a choice the consumer can make. But,SMS/MMS isn't encrypted between any platform, not just Apple.. You can also ask why Google and MS have failed to develop a compelling alternative. Google especially has been grossly inept at this and has just given up and resorted to whining endlessly.
rcs works pretty well on Android and is E2E encrypted.

The solution exists, Apple is the one not adopting it.
 
rcs works pretty well on Android and is E2E encrypted.

The solution exists, Apple is the one not adopting it.
Google's implementation of RCS is hardly an open source standard. First it started out as an effort by the carriers and Google bastardized it with their own code...so its hardly a real choice.

Arstechnica has a very good article on this.
 
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I’m a bit surprised EU hasn’t addressed iMessage lock-in. Of course I have zero hope of US bought and paid for congress ever even thinking about thinking about considering looking into it.
Well actually EU have done it already and it comes in to effect in September.

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Well actually EU have done it already and it comes in to effect in September.

By law apple must allow interoperability if another service provider asks for it.

Again thats a choice the consumer can make. But,SMS/MMS isn't encrypted between any platform, not just Apple.. You can also ask why Google and MS have failed to develop a compelling alternative. Google especially has been grossly inept at this and has just given up and resorted to whining endlessly.
I'm sorry? Did you forget that apple promised that imessage would come to Android? And how will you invent a new sms standard when half the market(apple) won't adopt anything at all?
 
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Did you forget that apple promised that imessage would come to Android?

They haven’t.

And how will you invent a new sms standard when half the market(apple) won't adopt anything at all?

I think it’s hilarious how Google now positions themselves as the standards-bearer, just because none of their proprietary networks took off. Allo, Duo, Chat, Talk, Hangouts, Meet, and the 20 others I forgot.
 
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