Why would you do that - as some form of self-punishment to atone for wrongdoings?
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Why would you do that - as some form of self-punishment to atone for wrongdoings?
What's wrong with touchscreen's when the keyboards are detachable? Half the time I see people using iPad Pro's they're using a keyboard case with it and no one moans about that.
Edit: ok so it's not even detachable. Wasn't that the point of the Surface Book line?
Edit: ok so it's not even detachable. Wasn't that the point of the Surface Book line?
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I don't know. Bad experience for me is lacks of features. With pen at least I can annotate technical drawing and sign documents when I need to. On the other hand, TB features can be done on screen already, I feel like it brings nothing new to the table. Also I don't really care how many times Apple tell their customers writing/touching isn't good experience, everyone has unique workflow and having options always better. I don't think including write/touch panel in a screen will compromise user experience because if you don't use touch you simply not touch the screen right? For those who want to touch/write on the screen at least they can.
Apple is wrong, the touch experience on a laptop is excellent. Of course he's talking about OSx on a touchscreen, which obviously would be pretty bad. Windows 10 on the other hand is a dream to use on a touchscreen. I'm not saying I use the touchscreen all the time, no not at all. But at least 1/3 to 1/2 of the time I use my laptop it's using the touchscreen, or some combination of it and other input methods. I don't disagree that writing on the laptop screen is a fairly poor experience. Personally I'd rather have it as an option, but I don't blame anyone for not wanting it. But a touchscreen, there's just no going back after you get one. It's just awesome to have the choice. Apple keeps selling that same bridge over and over again because they know consumers will buy 2 devices from them, and they make their money from hardware.
The touch bar seems interesting, but also seems like something that came out 10 years ago. I definitely wouldn't say no to it, but no way in hell I'd take it over a touchscreen. Worst case scenario someone can just make a row of keys on the bottom of my touchscreen that would probably be much more customizable than the touchbar. Part of that functionality lies in windows taskbar. But then again you guys have to deal with horribly unwieldy UI things like the dock in OSx, bleh, so the touchbar is probably a godsend on OSx.
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He has no clue. I've used mine for a long time now on my SP4, and I totally slobber stuff all over it. I'm sure it can stain, that's kind of obvious, but in my experience it's VERY difficult to stain. Very impressive stuff. But it seems like the debate just boils down to personal preference, some like the feel and look of metal, others find the alcantara neat looking and feeling.
You're right, it's not treating like an unwanted stepchild.
Most new Windows laptops and all Macs include at least 1 USB-C port. New deskstops are starting to include it as well. The HP I got has 2x USB-C, 1x USB-A so it's got both bases covered. No excuse not to include it in this day and age. Of course a USB-A should be included for compatibility.
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This. I use the touchscreen about 1/2 the time to click taksbar icons, close windows, and manipulate images on screen. The pen input is great too. As is being able to do an "A" or convert to a tablet or invert it. It's not perfect but I hate going back to a regular laptop.
The funny thing Apple moans about how un-ergonomic touch with a physical keyboard is yet they sell keyboards for iPads.... Can't be that bad, huh?
An iPad or a Surface pro at least has support behind the screen, in the form of a screen protector folded back as a stand. The problem with the Surface laptop is that it's just a big lever, with no support behind the screen. It will be a user experience fail.
The average consumer won't even know about that. I don't understand why Microsoft couldn't just have full windows on it by default rather than charging $45 for it (eventually).
This is the difference between Apple and Microsoft. The MBP has USB-C on it for two reasons. One, it allows the machine to be smaller. Including the older USB standard connector would require a bulkier device, only because the hole is bigger. That's kind of dumb. Why should everyone be forced to carry a bigger device just to accommodate those who need old USB connectors? Two, and more importantly, this means it has four ports capable of the highest standard for data throughput currently available. It's the emerging standard. So buying a MBP means that you might have to get some dongles for backward compatibility, but your big investment will be equipped to accommodate peripherals in the future, taking full advantage of USB-C and Thunderbolt speeds. The Surface notebook, however, will do just fine hooking up to your current peripherals with no dongles, but will throttle the throughput capacity of any peripherals you buy in the future, and require you to buy dongles later, when all the peripherals are USB-C. Only one of these represents forward-thinking design and long-term value for your investment. The other one is the Surface notebook.
I haven't connected my iPhone to my MacBook via a cable in years (do people really do this?).
I guess since I do not use thumb drives I have no real reason for USB-A anymore.
Its still insane Microsoft didn't include a single USB-C port.
Have you used one? Most touchscreen laptops have tight hinges and you don't need a hard press - just a gentile touch like a phone.
Probably because Microsoft isn't really a hardware company. Their revenue comes from charging money for Windows. Apple offers free OS upgrades because their revenue comes from their devices, as they're the only ones who make devices that (legally) run AppleOS. Microsoft might manufacture some devices, but since they license their OS to any yahoo with a soldering iron, they have to charge for for the OS to make any money. Microsoft was traumatized when Apple started offering OS upgrades for free along with other free apps as well, because it created a consumer expectation that undermines their business model. They can't make much money from devices so long as they license their OS to competing manufacturers who will race to the bottom. So even when they sell a Surface laptop for $1000, their profit probably lies entirely in "up-selling" $45 OS upgrades.
That's a BS Apple Excuse..
13" New Macbook Pro - .59" tall, USB C only
13" HP Spectre x360 - .55" tall, USB C and USB A
15" New Macbook Pro - .61" tall, USB C only
15" HP Spectre x360 - .70" tall, USB C, USB A, and HDMI
So at 13", the HP is slimmer and has both ports. At 15", the HP is 9 hundredths of an inch thicker and has more ports
You can't invalidate the laws of physics. That Surface laptop looks like a very lightweight device. A fulcrum and a lever are a fulcrum and a lever.
True and it all depends where that weight is distributed. Too much in the back, yes it will be tipsy when pressed at the top of the screen. Put that weight up front like where the trackpad is or evenly distribute it and it will be less likely to tip. We won't know until they are available.
Please explain....
The specs look to be in line with any current laptop. Offering it to the education market does not mean it's a lesser computer. And since you seem to be familiar with the "cut down" Windows 10, could you tell us how it is different from the full version?
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Funny when the MBP came out with USB-c everyone was moaning and complaining about dongles. Just a few short months later, now USB-a is old?
I know very few people who have gone all USB-c not to mention the higher cost.
Sounds more like an excuse to bash Microsoft. Most people I know and work with have 0 USB-c attachments.
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It should have both. This laptop is geared for use over the next 4-8 years (HS, College + grad school). Seems short sighted to not include today's new connector which will be popular in the next 4-8 years.
To be fair at $1000 the only Mac you're getting is a two year old outdated air.
Apple is getting creamed in education because schools typically have budgets and price/use is more important than look. For the price of 4 MacBook airs. You could buy low end PC laptops or Chromebooks for 20 students.
I already have Office/OneDrive subscription, so I don't see those ads. They aren't much different from Apple's ads for iCloud when you reach the limit of the free storage. I already mentioned the "suggestions" which you can turn off. I don't see a major problem here. They count bundled "Candy Crush" as ads. Really?
I think this is largely a case of people hating on Microsoft. Then again, I have both machines running Windows 10 Pro - that could make a difference, who knows. My experience has been very positive. I replaced the iMac with a custom build beast that blows the latest iMac out of the water. Once I got used to Windows, I really don't see much difference between the two OSs. Both are great.
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I can't comment on Windows 10 S yet. Haven't tried it, so comparing it to Windows RT is premature. Plus, Microsoft will give customers the option to upgrade to full Windows for free until December 2017 which seems like a good way to get people to try the new OS.
No, the complaints are that Apple didn't include USB-A. Nobody hates USB-C. You can have both.
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My mom has a beautiful 5K iMac with a fast CPU, plenty of fast RAM........ and a ****ing piece of **** 5400RPM HDD that makes the entire thing feel slow since every OS X past 10.8 runs horribly on HDDs for some reason.
The legacy USB decision was a big mistake in my view.
That's a deal breaker for me. I started the path to USB-C over a year ago with my Nexus 5X. I now have a OnePlus3 with USB-C. My MBP is USB-C. My 4k monitor is USB-C. I move forwards, not backwards.
Seriously disappointed by this decision. Probably taken by some 45 year-old dude who programs in C#, wears chinos and has bought Dell for the last 20 years.
That's a deal breaker for me. I started the path to USB-C over a year ago with my Nexus 5X. I now have a OnePlus3 with USB-C. My MBP is USB-C. My 4k monitor is USB-C. I move forwards, not backwards.
Seriously disappointed by this decision. Probably taken by some 45 year-old dude who programs in C#, wears chinos and has bought Dell for the last 20 years.