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Where is the camera? I don’t have a need for a note taking device when I have a phone,
 
EY! someone trying out new ideas!

My Surface Pro 3 is my first Windows Machine in 20 years, and is awesome, I love it more than my rMBP as I'm an artist, battery, price, features and power are really balanced BUT I've dedicated 100 times more time to fix my Windows problems in this 3 years than 20 years using Macs.

I really really love the device, but I really really hate the OS (can't understand how is this possible now a days...)
 
If that device would have single foldable screen we could finally have a phone/tablet combo. Or tablet/laptop combo (in terms of screen size).
Why would you want a dumb OS on a pro device? I can't even do something as basic as putting an active SSH session in the background on my iPad without it dying.
I couldn't have said it better. The lack of user-controlled multitasking in iOS is disturbing... (Halting the app and displaying a screenshot isn't actually multi-tasking.)
Although, I have given up on Apple when it comes to "Pro". They only deliver Premium, but not Pro.
Without a true Mac Pro I'm not sure if Final Cut has a future or will be discontinued like Aperture. iOS is barely evolving in certain terms either (be it the bluetooth stack or said multitasking,...).
 
Why would you want a dumb OS on a pro device? I can't even do something as basic as putting an active SSH session in the background on my iPad without it dying.

Because one man’s dumb OS is another man’s productivity lifeline. I don’t see the point of trying to run a desktop OS on a device with a screen that small, much less when you will be lacking access to desktop peripherals such as a keyboard and mouse, no less.
 
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EY! someone trying out new ideas!

My Surface Pro 3 is my first Windows Machine in 20 years, and is awesome, I love it more than my rMBP as I'm an artist, battery, price, features and power are really balanced BUT I've dedicated 100 times more time to fix my Windows problems in this 3 years than 20 years using Macs.

I really really love the device, but I really really hate the OS (can't understand how is this possible now a days...)

Unless you need it to support yourself I see no reason to own a Windoze product regardless of it's appeal. 10.13 is no prodigy OS, but it's miles above Windoze. The stability and security of a devices OS is paramount IMO. :apple:
 
If that device would have single foldable screen we could finally have a phone/tablet combo. Or tablet/laptop combo (in terms of screen size).
I couldn't have said it better. The lack of user-controlled multitasking in iOS is disturbing... (Halting the app and displaying a screenshot isn't actually multi-tasking.)
Although, I have given up on Apple when it comes to "Pro". They only deliver Premium, but not Pro.
Without a true Mac Pro I'm not sure if Final Cut has a future or will be discontinued like Aperture. iOS is barely evolving in certain terms either (be it the bluetooth stack or said multitasking,...).
...Umm. It’s more than halting and displaying a screenshot these days on iOS, and has been for a few years now.
 

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Here are some other concept renders (by the same David Breyer) of the MS Andromeda device. These don't look quite the same as the ones above this thread do they?

The Verge only nitpicked one of the many renders/designs David Breyer made. This only proves that all speculations about the design are premature and one should not believe all the information (including from The Verge and MacRumors) one gets. David Breyer, who has nothing to do with MS, is only guessing about the design and others (like many people posting here) mistake this for the absolute truth.

The only conclusion to be drawn here is that this makes a nice addition to David Breyer's portfolio.

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https://www.windowslatest.com/2018/...ming-on-andromeda-foldable-windows-10-device/
 
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This:
Because one man’s dumb OS is another man’s productivity lifeline.
Is in conflict with this:
I don’t see the point of trying to run a desktop OS on a device with a screen that small, much less when you will be lacking access to desktop peripherals such as a keyboard and mouse, no less.

"One man's small screen could be their productivity lifeline."
What you consider a small screen is subjective, therefore irrelevant to "another man's productivity lifeline".
You don't need to see the point, just accept it and move on.
 
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Didn’t Microsoft do this before? It sounded like one of their “prototype” that they announced few years ago?
 
Seems gimmicky to me. So it’s just a small laptop? Running windows 10? I am not sure I see the point yet. Cool looking device though.

The only thing we know is that MS is working on new Surface products (codename 'Andromeda'). This is just a natural evolution of the Surface line.

Sources (including The Verge etc.) are wildly speculating how these new Surface products will look like and what they will do. MS did not announce anything and MS did not reveil any design info.

All the renders we see are just a product of imagination by people who have nothing to do with MS and based there renders on keywords like 'foldable' and 'portable' and patents they claim to have seen.

The final MS product (if it even comes) can be ugly as hell, or very cool to look at. Nobody knows.

Your guess is as good as anyone's :)
 
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If that device would have single foldable screen we could finally have a phone/tablet combo. Or tablet/laptop combo (in terms of screen size).
I couldn't have said it better. The lack of user-controlled multitasking in iOS is disturbing... (Halting the app and displaying a screenshot isn't actually multi-tasking.)
Although, I have given up on Apple when it comes to "Pro". They only deliver Premium, but not Pro.
Without a true Mac Pro I'm not sure if Final Cut has a future or will be discontinued like Aperture. iOS is barely evolving in certain terms either (be it the bluetooth stack or said multitasking,...).

Final Cut Pro has an outstanding future. Runs fine on my 5K 4 GHz iMac. And I suspect it's amazing on a properly configured iMac Pro. Apple's continues to release substantial updates that show long-term support is there.

Aperture was halted because LightRoom was a far superior editor/DAM (my opinion as a photographer) that was well-supported with updates, and Adobe was willing to lower the price as needed to make continuing development of Aperture by Apple untenable.
 
Apple will destroy everyone with the release of a razor thin bendable OLED phone in the future. Mark my words!
 
For the longest time the screen sized was a double edged sword...
If you have something that's big, you get large screen size, but that device would be that big when carrying it around
If you have something that's small, you get less screen size to work with, but then that device would be much more portable.

Here, they seem to be able to combine the best of both worlds... big screen in usage, with the portability of a small screen!
 
Here are some other concept renders (by the same David Breyer) of the MS Andromeda device. These don't look quite the same as the ones above this thread do they?

The Verge only nitpicked one of the many renders/designs David Breyer made. This only proves that all speculations about the design are premature and one should not believe all the information (including from The Verge and MacRumors) one gets. David Breyer, who has nothing to do with MS, is only guessing about the design and others (like many people posting here) mistake this for the absolute truth.

The only conclusion to be drawn here is that this makes a nice addition to David Breyer's portfolio.

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https://www.windowslatest.com/2018/...ming-on-andromeda-foldable-windows-10-device/
So it’s basically like all those Martin Hajek that every rumor site posts. Like a few years ago when he designed an Apple TV box with chamfered edges and an Apple TV remote that looked like a skinny iPhone 5 (including the chamfered edges). It’s one thing to share a leak of an actual prototype but I never understood sharing some random graphic designer’s render based on a patent application or a rumor. Of course it’s easy for a graphic designer to mock up something cool looking. They don’t have to engineer a thing, they just have to make it look pretty.
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Because one man’s dumb OS is another man’s productivity lifeline. I don’t see the point of trying to run a desktop OS on a device with a screen that small, much less when you will be lacking access to desktop peripherals such as a keyboard and mouse, no less.
I always find it amusing when someone gives an example of a very niche or obscure productivity task that can’t be done with iOS as a reason for iPad not being a real productivity device. There isn’t only one definition of productivity.
 
Microsoft Courier 2.0.

Why not announce when ready? It's the equivalent of Apple announcing their car, now. The tech press need to up their game. Oh yeah, forgot, the tech press cares little beyond clicks and ad impressions. A point against MR for not mentioning Courier.

And why are Microsoft using this wallpaper? It's so close to the wallpaper Apple included with and used heavily in the marketing of iOS 9: http://i.imgur.com/swl1WmC.png
Sigh, trying to imply something?

If you didn't read, this is a render done by an external entity not related to Microsoft.
 
I hope all these companies develope a phone mode OS when folded and tablet mode OS when unfolded. This would merge both device requirements.

Imagine if an OS and app can run in phone mode, tablet mode and laptop/desktop mode. The battery and performance can scale up/down depending on the mode of the device it has been placed. Low power phone mode, normal power tablet mode and high power laptop/desktop mode.

App/Game developers can create one app, vice 2-3 versions and the power requirements and graphic settings can scale accordingly. Imagine a world and day-to-day life with only one device.


Windows 10 already implements UWP which is this exact thing!
 
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Microsoft is working on a pocket-sized dual-screen Surface device according to information sourced from Microsoft internal documents and shared by The Verge.

Called Andromeda, Microsoft's dual-screen Surface project has been in development for at least two years and it's designed to "blur the lines between mobile and stationary computing," according to an internal document.

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Andromeda rendering via David Breyer
Microsoft's device will feature a wraparound display that bridges the gap of the hinge when it is fully opened, and according to The Verge, December renderings shared by David Breyer are "identical" to the current prototype versions of the upcoming Surface. The pocketable Surface can be folded in either direction or laid flat, as can be seen in the renderings.

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Andromeda rendering via David Breyer
Microsoft is said to be experimenting with stylus input for the pocket Surface, with prototype devices equipped with styluses and notepad-like apps for note taking.

The Verge's sources warn that work on Andromeda could be ceased at anytime, but Microsoft is said to have tentative 2018 release date plans, which would mean development on the device is nearing completion.

Some nebulous rumors have suggested Apple too is exploring some similar concepts, working with LG to develop an iPhone with a foldable display. Apple explores many concepts and designs for its devices, so there is likely to be some truth to the rumor.

The folding display technology being developed by LG is still a few years off, so if Apple moves forward with some sort of design that's similar to what Microsoft is working on, we won't be seeing it for several years.

At the current time, Apple is focusing on edge-to-edge displays and making a transition to OLED technology. In fall 2018, Apple is expected to introduce a second-generation 5.8-inch OLED iPhone X, a 6.5-inch OLED device that can be thought of as an "iPhone X Plus," and a 6.1-inch iPhone with an LCD display that will be available at a more affordable price point.

All three devices will feature edge-to-edge displays and no Home button, instead adopting Face ID and the TrueDepth camera system.

Article Link: Microsoft Developing Dual-Screen 'Pocketable' Surface Device
brontosaurus ugly butterflo OMG call the ugly council.
 
Apple will destroy everyone with the release of a razor thin bendable OLED phone in the future. Mark my words!

It will be so razor-thin sharp that you can't carry it on a plane, into a government building, etc., as it will be classified as a weapon.:p
 
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