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It sure is getting old people constantly bashing Microsoft. I'
m guessing 90% of yo-yo guys havent written a angle line of code in your life.. If you drive a ford to your bad mouth every other car maker? What about toothpaste? Toilet paper?

Real Tech people want to know whats going on in the industry. This could have as direct affect on the next gen iPads. Apple copies and steals like crazy.
 
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.. and the number of patents they have, ya...

Now, who will be the first one to actually get one out to the public. That's the only question i wanna know.

Samsung, possibly followed by XYZ Far East Asian Company, then Microsoft, Google and finally Apple.
 
Is it me, or did anyone else think it was an Apple product for the first 1/2 second of seeing the photo? Space gray and isn't that a common (stock) Apple wallpaper?
 
As a former Apple rabid fan who recently switched to Samsung Note 8 + Microsoft Surface Book 2 (and thus happily unchainned from the iOS+MacOS ecosystem), I will buy this device on day 1.

I use my Note 8 extensively to manage my business on the go, and I could certainly use the extra real estate of a foldable screen.

Apple is not the innovator it used to be. I see far more risk-taking on the PC/Android side of the fence, and I LOVE that Microsoft is bringing cool hybrid concepts to the market.
 
That’s all fine, as long as you accept that responses like yours are just as predictable. It’s just as biased to be primed for forum warfare, wielding terms like “cult” and “fanboy” like blunt instruments as it is be a blind follower of a company. Like a sad number of others these days, many around here believe that an opinion other than theirs is wrong by definition.

I didn't use the word "cult" or "fanboy", and I didn't come "primed for forum warfare". I came into the thread looking for an intelligent dialog about this conceptual device. What I got was pages of rants against anything that doesn't have an Apple stamp on it.
 
I didn't use the word "cult" or "fanboy", and I didn't come "primed for forum warfare". I came into the thread looking for an intelligent dialog about this conceptual device. What I got was pages of rants against anything that doesn't have an Apple stamp on it.
Well you’re not new around here so the bad is on you.
Com’on now, after all this time a member of this site, whatever made you think intelligent dialog about a non Apple device, and a Microsoft rumored device of all things, was gonna happen here? :)
 
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No apparent notch and potential for a headphone port. If it can run Android or a VERY good lite version of Win10 then I am definitely interested.
 
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As a former Apple rabid fan who recently switched to Samsung Note 8 + Microsoft Surface Book 2 (and thus happily unchainned from the iOS+MacOS ecosystem), I will buy this device on day 1.

I use my Note 8 extensively to manage my business on the go, and I could certainly use the extra real estate of a foldable screen.

Apple is not the innovator it used to be. I see far more risk-taking on the PC/Android side of the fence, and I LOVE that Microsoft is bringing cool hybrid concepts to the market.

I find it difficult to belief a foldable display will have any sort of impact on your business. I’m curious to hear what business this is.
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VERY good lite version of Win10.

“Lite” version that won’t run your native windows applications? I believe they did something similar not long ago and it complete tanked.
 
Is it me, or did anyone else think it was an Apple product for the first 1/2 second of seeing the photo? Space gray and isn't that a common (stock) Apple wallpaper?

Click-bate, competitors and designers make it resemble Apple products or design language as it draws more attention to the concept/product. It is always done intentionally, mimic something that works.
 
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Don't forget, Nintendo had the dual screen 'Game & Watch' line decades before the NDS.
They were amazing and fetch a pretty penny nowadays.

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that might not look like much for some people now but back in the day
any kid will do they home work just to have something like that
todays games got graphic but the fun factor is down to the ground
I really enjoy playing old games and emulators
those old devices are just a good reminder of where we came from
if it wasn't for that we will never be here or have the technology we have today
today most people don't enjoy their lives they are living the phone apocalypse
you can't talk to a person now like people used to do 30 years ago
if that phone rings they have to take the phone call and they will leave you waiting in a corner
even if the phone call is not important and what you need to talk to that person is more important
but since they are hypnotized they will take the phone call regardless
love that picture, I think if Microsoft read all the feedback they will think about it twice before releasing that garage
I think that's why they leaked the image, they are getting feedback
my question is what reason or excuse does Mac rumor has to publish this article ;)

windows rumors
microsoft rumors
:D
 
Why? You love Siri and like to be limited on what you can do?

Granted this is microsoft, and you will get some awful windows based tablet. If it is android though, that would up the stakes. iOS is so limited, Andriod is really outpacing them. I give credit where credit is due. Tim can shove siri down his own throat.

But Nadella has done a great job with microsoft. He is really brought innovation back to Microsoft. Tim has brought us rose gold.

Tim has brought us Watch Straps. And courage.

I have an iPhone, AirPods, HomePod, Apple Watch and iPad but I now use a Surface Pro for my ‘computer’ work.

I think Windows 10 is great. Stable, Secure (It is, read the information, don’t go back to the 9x, XP, Vista days) and some really great features. And it runs great on a Day 1 Surface Pro 4. Even the Inside Previews (betas) are stable.

Like somebody else said, Microsoft are showing innovation if this is a thing.

As many have said, very Westworld.

Just my 2p’s worth and at the end of the day let’s not forget, competition is good.

- D
 
ZTE has the double side foldable phone. I wasn’t impressed with the gap so I’m curious how they will make it blend together.
 
Microsoft Courier 2.0.

Why not announce when ready? It's the equivalent of Apple announcing their car, now. The tech press need to up their game. Oh yeah, forgot, the tech press cares little beyond clicks and ad impressions. A point against MR for not mentioning Courier.

And why are Microsoft using this wallpaper? It's so close to the wallpaper Apple included with and used heavily in the marketing of iOS 9: http://i.imgur.com/swl1WmC.png

If they are restricted to announcing when ready, they will miss out on possible sales to people who would, if they knew it was coming, wait to buy that, instead of whatever they'd buy instead. Also, a BUNCH of people would complain, just as you are doing, that they should have announced it EARLIER, so... I guess they're damned if they do (announce it early,) and damned if they don't. Personally I think they're damned either way on account of they're Microsoft, and I will never forgive them or buy another product of any kind from them, but that's neither here nor there. For people who ARE willing to consider buying something from Microsoft, I suspect there's a moment in the process where Microsoft feels obliged to announce what they're working on because it's reached a critical stage of development in which the product-launch-window is going to be soon enough that failing to announce would be detrimental to the product's commercial success, they are reasonably confident they are going to produce this product, and maybe want FEEDBACK from the general public, likely to consider buying their product, regarding what they want from it.

I know, it's unheard of, for a big company, especially in the technical/consumer-electronics field, to ask its customers what they want in a potential future product, with an eye towards making something the people will actually WANT to buy, but hey... it's just crazy enough to work.

PS: Microsoft making this announcement is almost wholly unlike Apple announcing their inevitable "iCar," or whatever they're going to call it, in that Apple is (from what I gather, reading sites like this,) nowhere NEAR ready to offer the iCar for sale, while the Surface DS, (or whatever,) is probably closer to becoming a reality.

There are a few other differences as well: as notorious as Microsoft is, Apple is FAR MORE notorious for disregarding customer desires, or trying to force products down its consumers' throats, though that could be more than anything else because Apple is principally a company that makes, (or used to, anyway,) mainly physical, tangible products, that also makes software for the same, while Microsoft has historically been mostly a software company, that also makes a few pieces of hardware, once in a while. The product in question is also much smaller, meaning logistics of getting these out will be far more straight-forward. Microsoft has been selling things around this size via a number of distribution channels for a while now. Apple, by contrast, has never sold anything, (as far as I know,) larger than their display screens, (largest objects in terms of two dimensions,) or their Power Macs, (largest in terms of total linear measure, as the post office recons it,) and so they'd either have to go the Tesla Motors route, and try to bypass dealerships, or work WITH them, or turn their Apple iStores into, on top of everything else, automobile dealerships, which they're not REALLY configured to be. Of all the Apple iStores I've ever iBeen in, most have been inside malls, I don't know how many free-standing ones they have, but even of those, I doubt if many are capable of dispensing something as large as a car. (Though it's Apple, so maybe the cars will fold down very small, and be incredibly light and skinny. Of course, you make it small and thin enough, and you have a motorcycle.)

But the biggest difference is the amount of investment, in terms of money, buying a single one of these represents. My suspicion is that the Surface DS (or again, whatever,) is going to retail between $299 and $999 for the base model, (knowing as I do virtually nothing about it, I confess,) so in any case, probably a 3-digit price-tag in the US, while the iCar is likely to start out somewhere in the 5 digits, depending on how many they actually want to sell. It's hard to imagine Microsoft really expecting anyone to shell out over a thousand dollars for something that is basically going to be carried around everywhere in a pocket or purse, while it's equally hard to imagine Apple managing to make a device that can be used in the place of a passenger automobile, capable of on-interstate-highway travel, and somehow manage to price it below ten grand for each, unless they sell it without an engine or transmission, or indeed, a the-rest-of-the-car. The only way they COULD do such a thing really, is if they sold it below cost, giving money away for free, which as we all know Apple loves to do and does so all the time... (yes, that was sarcasm,) or by refusing to sell ANY, instead upending the whole car-ownership model, by instead letting you lease an iCar, on some kind of perpetual plan, where for $750/mo., let's say, (adjustable annually, probably,) and subject to certain terms and conditions, you get this car, and Apple does all maintenance, and periodically sends a crew to your house to upgrade components as needed. Kind of like updates. Thus, even if you kept one of these forever, you'd be paying Apple... forever. Some people that would appeal to, I think. Imagine, never having to worry about shopping for another car, and your car will last for the rest of your life. But also, you know those pushy updates Apple likes? (iOS 11.4 is available, press HERE to install now, or HERE to install in 10 seconds. Press neither and it will install in 5 seconds.) You can expect to see that kind of thing with the iCar, and I'd be surprised if it ended up NOT being the case. After all, it's Apple. What would be the point of buying a car from them if the experience were somehow the same as any and every other car you might buy from someone else?

So if you bought (perpetually leased, really,) an iCar, you'd end up having this experience from time to time:

Ring-ring... ring-ring... "Hi!" (an electronic but pleasant, fairly realistic, natural-sounding male voice says, cheery and nonthreatening,) "this is Apple Car Care, calling to schedule your Apple Car for a necessary upgrade and maintenance. According to our records, your car requires... periodic engine and battery module replacement... and... a carOS update. To schedule this for 2 in the morning, (after midnight tonight,) just leave your car in your driveway, at your usual home address, parked so the front bumper faces the street, ensuring no other car is parked in front of it, and a team of Apple Car Care Maintenance Geniuses will come by between 2 and 3 AM local time there, and replace these components for you. As always, you will receive a fully charged battery, and a courtesy Apple iFreshener hung from the vestigial windshield stud, where the rear-view mirror would be if this were a normal 'car,' as a friendly reminder that this maintenance has been performed..."

"If your Apple Car won't be there, or you'd rather schedule this for another time, please enter any 7 digit prime number, or stay on the line for an hour to reschedule. As a reminder, the terms of your Apple End Driver License Agreement require you to allow us to perform periodic maintenance and upgrades as soon as possible after being notified of the requirements for upgrade, and failure to comply could result in the repossession of your vehicle, and forfeiture of the deposit..."

Etc.
 
I need a 27inch screen or bigger for a desktop and bendable + foldable is quite a ways off yet unfortunately.
But I get it. I think it could cover a lot of uses.

Say Hello, to “Rollable Displays.”

When will it be available, that is dependent on many factors.
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that might not look like much for some people now but back in the day
any kid will do they home work just to have something like that
todays games got graphic but the fun factor is down to the ground
I really enjoy playing old games and emulators
those old devices are just a good reminder of where we came from
if it wasn't for that we will never be here or have the technology we have today
today most people don't enjoy their lives they are living the phone apocalypse
you can't talk to a person now like people used to do 30 years ago
if that phone rings they have to take the phone call and they will leave you waiting in a corner
even if the phone call is not important and what you need to talk to that person is more important
but since they are hypnotized they will take the phone call regardless
love that picture, I think if Microsoft read all the feedback they will think about it twice before releasing that garage
I think that's why they leaked the image, they are getting feedback
my question is what reason or excuse does Mac rumor has to publish this article ;)

windows rumors
microsoft rumors
:D

When a generation grows up in the digital age, with amazing 3D graphics, gameplay, storylines and cinematic sequences, they don’t have to imagine better. Instead previous generation had to fill in the pieces because it was new and the prospect of a virtual world seemed like living a part of science fiction. Hence game play was more enjoyable, though the graphics, storyline and limited cinematics were a cheese ball (I am part of that generation, and proud of it).

Nowadays science fiction and reality have narrowed the rift, so the wow factor is limited in its effect. Human evolution it’s just part of the process.

Tim Cook has doubled down, rumour mill is drying up /jk.

I appreciate what other companies are rumoured to be working on, it provides a break from the depressing state of the Mac hardware lineup.
 
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If they are restricted to announcing when ready, they will miss out on possible sales to people who would, if they knew it was coming, wait to buy that, instead of whatever they'd buy instead. Also, a BUNCH of people would complain, just as you are doing, that they should have announced it EARLIER, so... I guess they're damned if they do (announce it early,) and damned if they don't. Personally I think they're damned either way on account of they're Microsoft, and I will never forgive them or buy another product of any kind from them, but that's neither here nor there. For people who ARE willing to consider buying something from Microsoft, I suspect there's a moment in the process where Microsoft feels obliged to announce what they're working on because it's reached a critical stage of development in which the product-launch-window is going to be soon enough that failing to announce would be detrimental to the product's commercial success, they are reasonably confident they are going to produce this product, and maybe want FEEDBACK from the general public, likely to consider buying their product, regarding what they want from it.

I know, it's unheard of, for a big company, especially in the technical/consumer-electronics field, to ask its customers what they want in a potential future product, with an eye towards making something the people will actually WANT to buy, but hey... it's just crazy enough to work.

PS: Microsoft making this announcement is almost wholly unlike Apple announcing their inevitable "iCar," or whatever they're going to call it, in that Apple is (from what I gather, reading sites like this,) nowhere NEAR ready to offer the iCar for sale, while the Surface DS, (or whatever,) is probably closer to becoming a reality.

There are a few other differences as well: as notorious as Microsoft is, Apple is FAR MORE notorious for disregarding customer desires, or trying to force products down its consumers' throats, though that could be more than anything else because Apple is principally a company that makes, (or used to, anyway,) mainly physical, tangible products, that also makes software for the same, while Microsoft has historically been mostly a software company, that also makes a few pieces of hardware, once in a while. The product in question is also much smaller, meaning logistics of getting these out will be far more straight-forward. Microsoft has been selling things around this size via a number of distribution channels for a while now. Apple, by contrast, has never sold anything, (as far as I know,) larger than their display screens, (largest objects in terms of two dimensions,) or their Power Macs, (largest in terms of total linear measure, as the post office recons it,) and so they'd either have to go the Tesla Motors route, and try to bypass dealerships, or work WITH them, or turn their Apple iStores into, on top of everything else, automobile dealerships, which they're not REALLY configured to be. Of all the Apple iStores I've ever iBeen in, most have been inside malls, I don't know how many free-standing ones they have, but even of those, I doubt if many are capable of dispensing something as large as a car. (Though it's Apple, so maybe the cars will fold down very small, and be incredibly light and skinny. Of course, you make it small and thin enough, and you have a motorcycle.)

But the biggest difference is the amount of investment, in terms of money, buying a single one of these represents. My suspicion is that the Surface DS (or again, whatever,) is going to retail between $299 and $999 for the base model, (knowing as I do virtually nothing about it, I confess,) so in any case, probably a 3-digit price-tag in the US, while the iCar is likely to start out somewhere in the 5 digits, depending on how many they actually want to sell. It's hard to imagine Microsoft really expecting anyone to shell out over a thousand dollars for something that is basically going to be carried around everywhere in a pocket or purse, while it's equally hard to imagine Apple managing to make a device that can be used in the place of a passenger automobile, capable of on-interstate-highway travel, and somehow manage to price it below ten grand for each, unless they sell it without an engine or transmission, or indeed, a the-rest-of-the-car. The only way they COULD do such a thing really, is if they sold it below cost, giving money away for free, which as we all know Apple loves to do and does so all the time... (yes, that was sarcasm,) or by refusing to sell ANY, instead upending the whole car-ownership model, by instead letting you lease an iCar, on some kind of perpetual plan, where for $750/mo., let's say, (adjustable annually, probably,) and subject to certain terms and conditions, you get this car, and Apple does all maintenance, and periodically sends a crew to your house to upgrade components as needed. Kind of like updates. Thus, even if you kept one of these forever, you'd be paying Apple... forever. Some people that would appeal to, I think. Imagine, never having to worry about shopping for another car, and your car will last for the rest of your life. But also, you know those pushy updates Apple likes? (iOS 11.4 is available, press HERE to install now, or HERE to install in 10 seconds. Press neither and it will install in 5 seconds.) You can expect to see that kind of thing with the iCar, and I'd be surprised if it ended up NOT being the case. After all, it's Apple. What would be the point of buying a car from them if the experience were somehow the same as any and every other car you might buy from someone else?

So if you bought (perpetually leased, really,) an iCar, you'd end up having this experience from time to time:

Ring-ring... ring-ring... "Hi!" (an electronic but pleasant, fairly realistic, natural-sounding male voice says, cheery and nonthreatening,) "this is Apple Car Care, calling to schedule your Apple Car for a necessary upgrade and maintenance. According to our records, your car requires... periodic engine and battery module replacement... and... a carOS update. To schedule this for 2 in the morning, (after midnight tonight,) just leave your car in your driveway, at your usual home address, parked so the front bumper faces the street, ensuring no other car is parked in front of it, and a team of Apple Car Care Maintenance Geniuses will come by between 2 and 3 AM local time there, and replace these components for you. As always, you will receive a fully charged battery, and a courtesy Apple iFreshener hung from the vestigial windshield stud, where the rear-view mirror would be if this were a normal 'car,' as a friendly reminder that this maintenance has been performed..."

"If your Apple Car won't be there, or you'd rather schedule this for another time, please enter any 7 digit prime number, or stay on the line for an hour to reschedule. As a reminder, the terms of your Apple End Driver License Agreement require you to allow us to perform periodic maintenance and upgrades as soon as possible after being notified of the requirements for upgrade, and failure to comply could result in the repossession of your vehicle, and forfeiture of the deposit..."

Etc.
What’d I just read?
 
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