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Lots of complaining with an actual minority having issues

yeah that sounds like vista

Everyone I know who has used Vista hates it.

Minority? No. Everyone says that it has plenty of problems.

Including me. Once, it asked if I wanted to do a software update while I was using it. I hit no. It did it anyway! Then a few minutes later it said that I had to restart for the update to take effect but restarted my computer without asking.
 
It's agreed that the problem with iphone 4 is a hardware defect, right? So i guess to fix iphone 4's problem u have to wait till iphone 5 ;)

No you use a case. All you need is some kind of insulator on the edges of the antenna.
 
?????

Got to love the irrelevant and obnoxious fanboyism in this thread. Windows 7 is the best OS on the market.

Anyway, the iPhone 4 has a glaring issue that needs to be fixed, or more accurately, should never have shipped.

I'm getting an iPhone 4. But not until they fix this nonsense.

"Got to love the irrelevant and obnoxious fanboyism in this thread. Windows 7 is the best OS on the market."

What a hypocrit! Read those two sentences together.

Irrelevent fanboyism? Please. Apple has fans for a reason.
You are a fanboy of Microsoft if you think that Windows 7 is the best OS on the market. I would never buy an OS that requires at least 2 GB of RAM (and you actually need 4 GB) unless almost every computer had 4 GB of RAM.
I won't even go into the reasons why Leopard pwns Win7 because I don't want to give you any opinion to possibly contradict because that's what fanboys do ;)
Oh, but I'll give you a taster fact: Mac OS doesn't require a premium edition of the OS just to use "most" of the applications designed for previous OSs (WIN7 can' run XP apps unless you get Premium). That's a fact. You can't persuade anyone otherwise.

And nobody listens to the fact that a case solves the problem. Now that Apple is big, it suddenly has people jumping on it for a minor (it's major but is fixed easily by getting a case which you should have anyway) problem.
 
This is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard from a high up MS employee
 
"Got to love the irrelevant and obnoxious fanboyism in this thread. Windows 7 is the best OS on the market."

What a hypocrit! Read those two sentences together.

Irrelevent fanboyism? Please. Apple has fans for a reason.
You are a fanboy of Microsoft if you think that Windows 7 is the best OS on the market. I would never buy an OS that requires at least 2 GB of RAM (and you actually need 4 GB) unless almost every computer had 4 GB of RAM.
I won't even go into the reasons why Leopard pwns Win7 because I don't want to give you any opinion to possibly contradict because that's what fanboys do ;)
Oh, but I'll give you a taster fact: Mac OS doesn't require a premium edition of the OS just to use "most" of the applications designed for Windows XP. That's a fact. You can't persuade anyone otherwise.

And nobody listens to the fact that a case solves the problem. Now that Apple is big, it suddenly has people jumping on it for a minor (it's major but is fixed easily by getting a case which you should have anyway) problem.

I'm running Windows 7 and it's only up to 1.95GB:
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The fix that you are likely referring to is 8.1. I agree, 8.0 was a dog. 9.0.4 was crap, and "9" didn't really get decent until 9.2.2, but by then 10 was king. Also, you couldn't run 9.2.2 on anything pre-G3. What was up with that? Talk about adding insult to injury. The poor bastards with 9600's got screwed, Much like late G5 owners and 10.6, only worse.

I could have sworn it was a .5 but then I also remember from that era that I thought it went straight from 8.0 to 8.5 so maybe I missed the fix until 8.5.

And I am pretty sure I had 9.0 on my mac (this I don't remember. I had a Performa 6100 til the end of college, around 2000 and then I had a Windows machine for a year and replaced it with a G4. Never really liked the G3 chip. G4 seemed so much better. But that I'm basing on machines at my job at the time).

I'm sure I missed some updates honestly (I just know that the 9.whatever I was running I really liked. Come to think of it maybe it was the G4 I was running it on as I was introduced to 9 at my job which was post 2000. I didn't know until now you had to have a G3 chip to run it. My G4 I had I think is the oldest computer that can run at least one or two versions of OSX and it had a very similar version that cannot - you have to know which 400 MHz G4 version you have to know if it can run it. I still have that computer too, it serves as a bedside stand but it still works. Come to think of it I seem to be starting a collection as I have all my computers since my Performa still in hand. If I had my Mac SE and 128k I'd have all my computers I've had in my life... Uh, I'm not a packrat, really).
 
Well, at least someone at Microsoft has officially acknowledged just how bad Windows Vista is...

... and if the iPhone 4 really is nearly as bad as Windows Vista - bad enough for someone to put them together in the same sentence.... then I guess I'll be waiting for the next generation iPhone, as it might be a piece of cr*p...
 
No you use a case. All you need is some kind of insulator on the edges of the antenna.

Lol gotta love the apple homers that try shift the manufacturers responsibility to correct a defect to the consumer.

You are a fanboy of Microsoft if you think that Windows 7 is the best OS on the market. I would never buy an OS that requires at least 2 GB of RAM (and you actually need 4 GB) unless almost every computer had 4 GB of RAM.

blah blah blah. Windows runs the most applications (there are no mac programs without a windows equivalent), has support for the newest and fastest hardware, has the largest amount of hardware support, hell I can go on... macs run on windows hardware lol
 
Aside from the irony that a head honcho from ms is dissing their own product in an attempt to insult another, this brings up some interesting questions.

What is apples equivalent to Playsforsure?
What is apples equivalent to UMPC?
What is apples equivalent to Spot watches?
What is apples equivalent to zune?
What is apples equivalent to red ring of death?
What is apples equivalent to Kin?
What is apples equivalent to Courier?
What is apples equivalent to BoB?
Etc etc etc.

I guess one things for sure, when you've written the book on failure it makes it easy to draw parrallels between yours and other companies.
 
Iphone 4 issues=Annoying
Vista issues=very annoying
Microsoft having the balls to make comments about another company's product issues=priceless.
 
Are you JOKING?

Lol gotta love the apple homers that try shift the manufacturers responsibility to correct a defect to the consumer.



blah blah blah. Windows runs the most applications (there are no mac programs without a windows equivalent), has support for the newest and fastest hardware, has the largest amount of hardware support, hell I can go on... macs run on windows hardware lol

There are no Mac programs without a Windows equivilent? Please. There's no Windows iLife for one. You can play all day with Windows Movie Maker but that doesn't even deserve to be an equivilent of iMovie '06. There would be no point of using a Mac if Windows could run everything better than a Mac.

You don't seriously believe that Windows is faster, more stable, and more worthwhile than Mac. The only thing you need is to know how to use a Mac.

Don't even get me started on security issues on Windows.
Or stability!

You just can't believe that a tiny company like Apple is now producing better computer OSs than Microsoft. Microsoft doesn't make computer hardware BTW except for accessories.

Macs run on Windows hardware? No. Not without excessive (illegal) hacking. And in the end, it still doesn't work as well as if it was on a real Mac.

And Windows runs on Mac hardware.
Support for fastest hardware? Where is your evidence? Macs use the newest Intel processors now if you didn't notice.

You haven't provided any reasons why what I said earlier is incorrect. All you can say is that it's funny that I try to blame consumers.
I'm not blaming them. I'm just saying that you should have a case anyway to protect your very advanced phone from damage. Most people do that anyway.
 
Well, at least someone at Microsoft has officially acknowledged just how bad Windows Vista is...

... and if the iPhone 4 really is nearly as bad as Windows Vista - bad enough for someone to put them together in the same sentence.... then I guess I'll be waiting for the next generation iPhone, as it might be a piece of cr*p...

Or you could try it for yourself and make your own judgement...

I mean, after all, the person who said that has interest in making the phone fail as they are putting out their own phone. So, it's not like that person doesn't have a bias or motivation to make it look that bad.

I personally would not be taking the word of a competitor as reason not to get a product.
 
Hand me downs? lol you're just trolling now. I get it. No one can be this dense. :D

Microsoft did not and never did produce or invent the Intel processor. Apple's recently powerful PowerPC processor just couldn't get any faster while the Intel processor had more potential.

I agree with Eddyisgreat. This wreckshop guy is just a (super) Microsoft fanboy. Just ignore any of his comments that don't make sense.
 
such a non-issue

just buy a case already and be happy.. geesh.

I just bought one of these at Best Buy for $30. They are really nice, way better than what they look like in the photo.

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And Windows runs on Mac hardware.
Support for fastest hardware? Where is your evidence? Macs use the newest Intel processors now if you didn't notice.

You haven't provided any reasons why what I said earlier is incorrect. All you can say is that it's funny that I try to blame consumers.
I'm not blaming them. I'm just saying that you should have a case anyway to protect your very advanced phone from damage. Most people do that anyway.

You know, it's not like me to defend Windows, but I would think this is more a notch in Windows being remarkable than Apple. Windows has to be programmed to run on all sorts of different variety of computers and still be reasonabley well. MacOS just has to work well on a small standard of hardware.

Sure, in the end it makes it easier and more likely for MacOS to be stable so from the practicality standpoint Mac wins.

But I think it shows more of an accomplishment and display of programmer skills for Windows to be able to run on all sorts of different hardware and still do well enough that it still is the dominant OS (which means it has to run at least reasonabley well and be reasonabley usable).
 
how long have PCs been running on x86 hardware? how long have macs been using x86 hardware? Macs get PC hand me downs LOL

So, you are saying that anything on a Windows computer is bad?
And a Mac is a Personal Computer. I know that you meant Windows computer when you said PC.
 
You know, it's not like me to defend Windows, but I would think this is more a notch in Windows being remarkable than Apple. Windows has to be programmed to run on all sorts of different variety of computers and still be reasonabley well. MacOS just has to work well on a small standard of hardware.

Sure, in the end it makes it easier and more likely for MacOS to be stable so from the practicality standpoint Mac wins.

But I think it shows more of an accomplishment and display of programmer skills for Windows to be able to run on all sorts of different hardware and still do well enough that it still is the dominant OS (which means it has to run at least reasonabley well and be reasonabley usable).

Finally, a defender of Microsoft with a worthwhile point.

However, the reason that MacOS runs on few computers is because the Mac OS is "closed" so that it can only run on hardware produced by Apple. Windows, however, can run on hardware from IBM, Dell, HP, Acer, etc.

You have a good point, and it's for the user to decide whether or not the MacOS should be closed or open.

Keep in mind that most of the Windows computers are similar. Apple has done a pretty good job of making computers that would suit anyone. The only problem is the initial price tag, but I think that it costs more to run a Windows computer in the long run because of pricey and required upgrades and anti-virus software. Also, MacOS upgrades are WAY WAY WAY cheaper than Windows OS upgrades.

You say that the Windows OS is dominant. It is, but I think it's because first of all, Apple computers were really terrible a while back. Secondly, with comanies like Dell producing cheap (quality and price) computers, the average consumer will buy a Windows computer. Apple is dwarfed by the flood of models that run Windows. You see 100 Windows computers and 5 Apple computers in a store. And I say all this as I repair my 2003 iMac G5. One thing about Apple computers before 2006: don't buy 'em right when they come out! This is the original iMac G5 and it is a bit of a lemon :(
 
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