What does that even mean? Like, they both have the letters "OS" in the description, so they are the same thing?
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When someone accuses you of being a troll or a shill, it's usually the most proper response.
For instance, I've been called an Android Fanboy Apple Hater Samsung Astrotufer at least 15 times during my tenure here. This is despite the fact I have an iPhone, don't have a massive amount of interest in Android stuff, and for the Android stuff I do have an interest in, it's not Samsungs. My usual response to that is "how can I be an Android Fanboy Apple Hater Samsung Astroturfer when I have an Apple product, don't have an Android, and don't work for Samsung?" It's like calling someone with a Chevy a Ford Fanboy because they had the audacity to insult the rear suspension in the 2014 Cameros.
Not that it matters much. Someone always ends up pointing their finger at me, and going LIAAARRRR!
Also, you can apparently dump thousands of dollars on Apple stuff, and still be an Apple Hater. Someone actually has that in their signature around here.
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It means whichever one you prefer is ultimately subjective.
Yes, back when Apple ran Mac vs. PC ads, Apple just could not compete. This is a strategy used by also-rans who are struggling for market share point scraps, and Apple was once in that position.
Apparently, MS is the one struggling now.
You can prove to me you're going to work? LOL. Love to see how you'd do that. If you had just said you owned Macs in the past and had full experience with OS X and felt that Microsoft's product was going to fulfill your computing needs better I would've easily accepted that. It wasn't until you said, "Let's not let facts get in the way" is when I'm calling you out on that.
Showing pictures of you with your Macs is nonsense since I don't know what Michael Goff even looks like from jump street. LOL. And now you're throwing the price of your MBA into the mix? Why? I never questioned how much you spent on anything. My advice when rebuttaling someone (me) is to not use the term FACT when you don't any.
You're calling me out on the use of the word facts when I used it correctly? And, yes, I can prove it by either taking a picture of me standing at work or a short video. Also, wow, you really are a bizarre one to think I'm going to go find some Joe Schmoe with a Mac around here (hard to do, I live in a small town with few Macs) and take a picture of them.
Really, you shouldn't have even bothered jumping in at all. I mean, your only contribution is to basically say "only people who just use Macs can ever say anything remotely negative about OS X or Apple things". Heck, I didn't even insult OS X, I just said it wasn't inherently better.
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Okay?
You don't like Windows, I get that. I, on the other hand, like Windows as much as I like OS X. This forum, however, seems to want to be some kind of yes man for Apple.
I think people like the idea of one device, but implementation has not (to this point) lived up to the dream. From my very limited time playing with one, the Surface Pro 3 is actually pretty good, but still not quite what I want from a laptop experience. I just know that it doesn't tick all of the use-case boxes for me, so I couldn't justify the price when I would still want to have a plain-old-laptop.
In general there seems to be some intrigue and excitement when these do-it-all hybrids are announced, and then a sinking let-down feeling when they are actually released and people discover the limitations. I can still remember how the Motorola Axiom(?) was supposed to revolutionize smartphones as general purpose computers. Not so much...
Samsung is selling more mobile phones then Apple, so yeah Apple is losing....
I wasn't even the one that brought up sales initially.
Samsung is selling more mobile phones then Apple, so yeah Apple is losing....
Customers are always winning when there are options to be had. I honestly get the impression that some on this forum would prefer there to be no options and that Apple created all tech. Hyperbole? Perhaps - but that's the tone of some people (not necc on this thread)
Does everyone in this forum HAVE to be such a big baby about this?
All the add did was compare features to help the buyer choose.
It also pushes Apple in the right direction but I guess you're all to blind to realize that.
Hey, how are those new larger iPhones working out for Y'all ? DERP!!
All the add did was compare features to help the buyer choose.
It also pushes Apple in the right direction but I guess you're all to blind to realize that.
Hey, how are those new larger iPhones working out for Y'all ? DERP!!
Let's look at this from a logical standpoint and this is a forum for Apple enthusiasts, were you expecting anything different?
Samsung's premium headset sales have phone off of a cliff,#Samsung is selling more mobile phones then Apple, so yeah Apple is losing....
No argument about that from me. More competitor there are, better for the consumers.
The comment was specific to someone claiming that sales/profit had nothing to do with quality of product... As a business model, it's much better if I can sell fewer products at higher profit then selling ton loads at lower profit.. I can only achieve high profit if my product quality is great and for which people are willing to pay premium for...
Wish you had read the entire debate from the beginning, before jumping to conclusions....
Speaking as one of said enthusiasts, given how open-minded and tolerant we all expect the community to be with regards to other issues (not to make this a controversial thread), I would think OS affinity would be one of the things we should find least offensive. So, yes, I would expect different, especially from this group.
They're just computers. They're just operating systems. Let's get over ourselves and any insecurities we feel regarding our choices in them.
I wasn't aware that one predicated the other.
Can't you love Apple's products and software and still be objective? Is it other people to see past this objectivity and realize that if someone has a differing opinion, it shouldn't be taken as a "threat?"
It is a shame that users here have to come to expect that their opinions will be attacked if it doesn't put Apple in a positive light. It's weak. Especially since this is a damn company we're talking about.
I did - I just posted to the last relevant post in the thread
The actuality is - the best isn't necc the most sold or the most profitable. There are, as I know you know, other factors.
So when people talk about X being better because of profit or because of sales #s, I just roll my eyes. The data just means X sold more or X is more profitable.
You had no proof of your facts when you made that statement and my first reply to you was in response to the few posts I've seen here where you're promoting Windows multiple times along with you saying that potential Mac shoppers find out that OS X isn't any better than Windows. That's when I replied you saying, " Says the person with Surface Pro 3 and a user of Windows 8.1.
It wasn't until then you became defensive and felt the need to show proof of yourself going to work and other sorts of nonsense.
And you're throwing words in my mouth. I never said that people have to own Macs in order to have an opinion. I take issue to your types of posts about Apple's product while having an Microsoft product only in your signature. You're not helping your case, that's all.
And please do show us a selfie video of you going to work. That's more entertaining than the best cup of coffee in the morning.
If Apple made one, they'd at least make it useful and convenient. Instead of this tired PC design that nobody put any thought into, again!
I know that, but I don't think a lot of consumers realize that until after they have bought the computer and had it for awhile. Only then do they realize how little they use the touch screen. So I think touch screens will help sell devices. It is a differentiator and I expect Microsoft to continue to push it. Also I think if you had a Yoga you would put it into tablet form and use the touch screen. I think that would work and is actually a feature.
Also, windows touch pads are in general quite poor. I constantly am unable to drag and drop a file on my 13 inch laptop. I run out of touch screen space with the file not sufficiently move to side of the screen. So the touch screen may be more helpful for PC users in some instances in a way that mac laptop users don't need.
I did - I just posted to the last relevant post in the thread
The actuality is - the best isn't necc the most sold or the most profitable. There are, as I know you know, other factors.
So when people talk about X being better because of profit or because of sales #s, I just roll my eyes. The data just means X sold more or X is more profitable.
I know what you mean... Anyways, I was just trying to negate sales argument someone else put forward...
