Microsoft Launches New Ad Comparing MacBook Air to Lenovo's Convertible Yoga 3 Pro Laptop

[Renzatic]

So, basically, nothing I can say or do will prove anything to you. I could show you pictures of my Mac, now being used by my sister sitting beside me. I could show you the email that I had of it shipping to me. But none of that is relevant if you don't want to see it.

You could've grabbed a picture of any Mac off the internet, and said it's yours! How would we know? And the Email? FORGED!

The only way I'll believe you is if you invite me to your house to play with your alleged "Mac", then you give it to me so I can run various tests proving it's a real Mac (ain't gonna take none of that Hackintosh BS), and finally, you gotta give me a half liter of your blood.

...don't ask questions about that last one. It's best you don't know.

 

[ee4life]

This is very true, but considering the thing is a complete regression across the board, while not being too terribly different in design or function than the Yoga 2 Pro, it does seem to point towards the processor/mobo more than anything.

Though it could simply be a driver issue.

The only way we'll know who screwed up what is when other Broadwell equipped ultrabooks start coming out. If they all perform better than their previous generation, it's Lenovo's fault. If they're all a step back from Haswell, it's Intel's.

...and if it's the latter, that doesn't bold well for the 12" retina MBA.

Agreed. I wouldn't be surprised if it were simply a driver or firmware issue. It would be another entry in the disturbing trend of manufacturers (Apple included) releasing products that aren't ready for prime time in some form. It really makes early adoption unappealing.

 

[Michael Goff]

You could've grabbed a picture of any Mac off the internet, and said it's yours! How would we know? And the Email? FORGED!

The only way I'll believe you is if you invite me to your house to play with your alleged "Mac", then you give it to me so I can run various tests proving it's a real Mac (ain't gonna take none of that Hackintosh BS), and finally, you gotta give me a half liter of your blood.

...don't ask questions about that last one. It's best you don't know.

I'm sure you just want to clone me for your evil army of clones! Or drink the blood!

 

[Navdakilla]

Pretty funnny,

I'll stick with my macbook air, thanks

 

[Renzatic]

Agreed. I wouldn't be surprised if it were simply a driver or firmware issue. It would be another entry in the disturbing trend of manufacturers (Apple included) releasing products that aren't ready for prime time in some form. It really makes early adoption unappealing.

These days, with everyone jumping on the cutting edge the first moment they can, and stuffing it all into an ultra thin case, the earliest I'd consider adopting anything would be at least two months out, once a bunch of reviews have rolled in.

That's one of the two reasons why I'm waiting a bit before I grab a retina iMac for myself. I want to make sure it doesn't randomly catch on fire or anything, and I'm letting everyone else be my guinea pig.

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I'm sure you just want to clone me for your evil army of clones! Or drink the blood!

Nope. Scab Art! It's the newest thing in Postmodern Expressionism!

 

[mateytate]

Those who cant compete and are taken to the cleaners are the ones who indulges in such practice of mocking and comparing as deep down they know that ...they just cant compete..

I love Apple, it's why I'm on this website, but why do people slam this sort of advert, when Apple did the exact same thing with the "Hi, I'm a Mac" series of commercials, everyone loved those - It makes no sense to me

 

[HenryDJP]

Interesting. So, basically, you're going to continue to act as though me posting about my MBA for TWO YEARS was some elaborate ploy. The times I praised, and still do praise, the MBA are just for laughs? Or is it because this time I'm not all aflutter and quickly saying how horrible the other offering is?

LOL, your posts are very carefully written so people don't bother to ask you to prove it. You say you make jokes about Windows on ANOTHER Windows forum but funny how you praise it here along with making sure the world knows what computer and OS you use in your signature. But let's not allow "Facts" to get in the way.

 

[k2k koos]

Quality above quantity

Being able to do a few things exceptionally well, vs a load of things less well, outweighs it.

Besides I've never liked fingerprints on my screen, so why would I want touch screens if I have a working keyboard attached to it...

(no I don't own a tablet, can't justify one for myself yet, I have an iPhone, that's good enough for my use).

 

[samcraig]

I love Apple, it's why I'm on this website, but why do people slam this sort of advert, when Apple did the exact same thing with the "Hi, I'm a Mac" series of commercials, everyone loved those - It makes no sense to me

I think this advert is actually even "softer" than those mac/PC ones as well.

 

[Mattsasa]

Cool video!

I literally almost bought a yoga 3 last night. Decided not to though.

Yoga 3 has less cpu power and less gpu power than the MacBook air, at higher price.

Yoga 3 has less cpu power and less gpu power than a surface pro 3, and is thicker and more expensive.

Still a neat product though, I only pointed out the negatives. I believe the yoga 3 is the first and only device available with Core M

 

[mateytate]

It's an absurd advert. The MacBook Air is a laptop. The yoga thing is a 'hybrid'.

Apple don't sell a hybrid, so there is nothing to compare the yoga thing to.

It's like comparing an estate car with another manufacturer that doesn't have an estate in its range, and comparing it with a non-estate car from their range.[/QUOTE

But Apple could make a hybrid, surely that's the point here. With your logic everytime a phone comes out with a new feature - Touch ID for example, you could just argue that for example HTC don't make a phone with a fingerprint sensor so it's not fair to compare?

 

[samcraig]

LOL, your posts are very carefully written so people don't bother to ask you to prove it. You say you make jokes about Windows on ANOTHER Windows forum but funny how you praise it here along with making sure the world knows what computer and OS you use in your signature. But let's not allow "Facts" to get in the way.

A better question - why do you care so much about his posts that you continue to try and discredit him.

Can you not accept that he simply has a different opinion and get over it? Why does there have to be some conspiracy motive.

It's also irrelevant if he has 1 Apple device or thousands. last I checked, having an opinion on this forum didn't require proof of ownership. And it's not like many people on this forum (note I didn't say this thread) offer up their opinions of competition with no frame of reference because they don't use the equipment or OS.

 

[Michael Goff]

LOL, your posts are very carefully written so people don't bother to ask you to prove it. You say you make jokes about Windows on ANOTHER Windows forum but funny how you praise it here along with making sure the world knows what computer and OS you use in your signature. But let's not allow "Facts" to get in the way.

Alright. Tell me what exactly would prove to you that I bought a 2300$ MBA. Go ahead. I'm going to work in about half an hour (which I can prove that as well if you'd like? ), so I might not post until later (maybe tomorrow if I don't get time to post on my phone). I don't delete emails or pictures, so they should still be there.

 

[SPNarwhal]

The thing I dont understand about this ad is why the MacBook Air is running Yosemite but has the Mavericks wallpaper. ?

 

[Michael Goff]

Cool video!

I literally almost bought a yoga 3 last night. Decided not to though.

Yoga 3 has less cpu power and less gpu power than the MacBook air, at higher price.

Yoga 3 has less cpu power and less gpu power than a surface pro 3, and is thicker and more expensive.

Still a neat product though, I only pointed out the negatives. I believe the yoga 3 is the first and only device available with Core M

Yeah, Core M has been a big disappointment. I will admit I got caught up in the hype, only to run into this. :\

 

[Parystec]

Just need

Just needs the Mac OS and where away

 

[Michael Goff]

The thing I dont understand about this ad is why the MacBook Air is running Yosemite but has the Mavericks wallpaper. ?

The Mavericks wallpaper does look nice. I like it more.

 

[HenryDJP]

I love Apple, it's why I'm on this website, but why do people slam this sort of advert, when Apple did the exact same thing with the "Hi, I'm a Mac" series of commercials, everyone loved those - It makes no sense to me

There's a huge difference. The Mac vs. PC ads were about the actual problems people were having with Windows and every single bit of them were true. These new ads from Apple's competitors are not exactly attacking a "probem". MBA is a very successful-selling machine with very satisfied customers and the iPad is also the biggest selling tablet in history with very satisfied customers. So the only thing the competitors can do is to find features that they MBA and iPad don't have and showcase that in an ad and that's just one of the reasons these ads aren't turning into sales for these Apple competitors.

If you don't have a real problem that needs solving you're not going to switch to the competitor.

 

[JeffDM]

Alright. Tell me what exactly would prove to you that I bought a 2300$ MBA. Go ahead. I'm going to work in about half an hour (which I can prove that as well if you'd like? ), so I might not post until later (maybe tomorrow if I don't get time to post on my phone). I don't delete emails or pictures, so they should still be there.

We see far too many people say "I have an Apple (insert product type here) but.." (insert concern troll-ish comment here). It gets hard to distinguish legitimate complaints from attempts to troll.

It doesn't matter. You don't need to say that in the first place. Argue the comments on their own merit, you don't need to prove (or pretend to prove) your membership in the tribe.

 

[Michael Goff]

We see far too many people say "I have an Apple (insert product type here) but.." (insert concern troll comment here)

It doesn't matter. You don't need to say that in the first place. Argue the comment on their own merit, you don't need to prove (or pretend to prove) your membership in the tribe.

Except I didn't make a troll comment or say those words. I argued something on its own merit and then got slammed for owning a Surface Pro 3. Apparently, I'm only allowed to say negative things about the Mac if I've owned one, and even then it seems like only if I've never owned anything buy Macs.

 

[ee4life]

Alright. Tell me what exactly would prove to you that I bought a 2300$ MBA. Go ahead. I'm going to work in about half an hour (which I can prove that as well if you'd like? ), so I might not post until later (maybe tomorrow if I don't get time to post on my phone). I don't delete emails or pictures, so they should still be there.

Just post your address and leave your door unlocked with all of your Apple stuff laid out on the floor. Someone will be by to verify your claims while you are at work.

I sometimes wonder how people can take the fanaticism to these levels

 

[osofast240sx]

They can 'state' it all they want, you know that board room meetings look at the $$$ critically.

Precisely and as long as a Apple product turns a profit that's all that matters to them.as for the general masses a convertible laptop is not going to stop people wanting additional gadgets I don't know of anyone family friend coworker that wants one device. There is a extremely small demand for a all in one device and the market responds accordingly.

 

[HenryDJP]

Alright. Tell me what exactly would prove to you that I bought a 2300$ MBA. Go ahead. I'm going to work in about half an hour (which I can prove that as well if you'd like? ), so I might not post until later (maybe tomorrow if I don't get time to post on my phone). I don't delete emails or pictures, so they should still be there.

You can prove to me you're going to work? LOL. Love to see how you'd do that. Let me guess, you're going to do a selfie video in the car and post it here? If you had just said you owned Macs in the past and had full experience with OS X and felt that Microsoft's product was going to fulfill your computing needs better I would've easily accepted that. It wasn't until you said, "Let's not let facts get in the way" is when I'm calling you out on that.

Showing pictures of you with your Macs is nonsense since I don't know what Michael Goff even looks like from jump street. LOL. And now you're throwing the price of your MBA into the mix? Why? I never questioned how much you spent on anything. My advice when rebuttaling someone (me) is to not use the term FACT when you don't any.

 

[lowepg]

This ad just strikes me a weird. Not impressed. Microsoft can't even ridicule effectively, let alone make software

Well, perhaps because it wasn't "ridicule" in the heavy-handed, clumsy way Samsung has tried.

I'm a HUGE apple guy (having recently swapped over the whole family from Pcs), but I think this ad was effective.

I wouldn't dismiss MS so quickly....

 

[osofast240sx]

Except I didn't make a troll comment or say those words. I argued something on its own merit and then got slammed for owning a Surface Pro 3. Apparently, I'm only allowed to say negative things about the Mac if I've owned one, and even then it seems like only if I've never owned anything buy Macs.

lets not forget everyone on forum has had their fair share of Microsoft-windows. Some people have put it to me they work with Windows machines all day long and coming home to a Mac or iPad is like an escape from work.