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Microsoft Launches New Surface RT vs. iPad Ad Highlighting iPad Shortcomings
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As I pointed out earlier, again, isn't that what Apple did with those (popular) PC vs Mac ads?
You believe that MS Office has a better touch interface than iWork. Now that is funny.
Original Xbox used an x86 chip too. It was a 733MHz intel Pentium 3 based chip. PowerPC was only used in the 360.
Yeah, you're right. It's only okay when Apple does that. And they've been doing that for three decades now... Losers.
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Microsoft is persistent. They don't give up easily. And they certainly have not yet given up on the Surface product line which is a rather young but important product family for them.
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Why? For me, the keyboard makes the difference between a mere toy and tool that helps me get a job done. That being said, I've yet to find the first person that actually wrote a lot with an on-screen keyboard.
Version 2.0 will be saved with Apps but this version is a waste. Why can't it charge via USB like an iPad? That's a huge mistake, requiring not only a specific cable but also a power adapter. And because the cable and adapter are permanently attached, my 3 month old puppy chewing through it cost me both in one shot rather than a $20 dollar cable or a $20 charger (actually cost about $70 to replace if I recall correctly). The connector on that adapter tries to be similar to magsafe but feels like it is made of cheap die cast metal.
Screen resolution could be better, not going to bitch about that because it's not that big a deal but I will say portrait mode on that thing completely sucks. Reading PDFs in portrait mode actually shrinks them far too small to be easily read at its resolution. A lot of Microsoft's own documentation is even in PDF format these days so it shouldn't have been overlooked.
Including the desktop stack just so this thing could run Office because Office RT was obviously far from ready was a mistake. That's why it takes up 10+ GB for the OS and the bloat of desktop Office - without the win32 stack, you'd easily chop off 4GB or more. 8.1 includes Outlook, probably takes up even more space but I'm not going to try downloading the preview as it will break other functionality.
Touch keyboard is about as inaccurate as you'd expect. Typing a password that you can't see as you type? Just give up now.
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Apple did that for a very short while of that 30 years and hasn't done it for just as long as it did.
MS will not give up on this, the entire company is steering to devices and Surface is probably going to be near the helm behind Xbox One.
I had to buy the type cover for an additional $129, could have had much better options on an iPad and even cheaper.
The worst part is that they use the USB to connect a memory stick........the iPad will simply grasp its info from iCloud.
Everything they talk about can be answered with "because the iPad is actually just a good tablet". The Surface RT is an okay laptop/tablet hybrid, but comparing it to the iPad is a bit pointless; while there are lots of great apps for the iPad that can let it function as a controller or productivity platform for a variety of purposes, it's not really a productivity device in and of itself. It's a tablet, focused on being a tablet, and doing a very good job of that.
This negative advertising campaign is just getting worse and worse, it also just comes across as bitchy and disgruntled; advertising should be positive, letting consumers make their own comparisons.
This negative advertising campaign is just getting worse and worse, it also just comes across as bitchy and disgruntled; advertising should be positive, letting consumers make their own comparisons.
The worst part is that they use the USB to connect a memory stick........the iPad will simply grasp its info from iCloud.
"Worst part"? That's a pretty pro-Apple spin on "The Surface has a USB connector and you can connect external memory to it, but the iPad doesn't".
Why would I wanna do that:
1. iCloud 5GB free
2. Dropbox 16GB free
3. Fotostream free
I have no need at all to do so.
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So now sales determine how good a product is?
And now a product that isn't good for you is bad for everyone?
Weird standards you put there.
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Yes, the 600 dollar iPad has more than the now 350 dollar Surface. Also, don't like the keyboard lie really. Maybe they're planning on throwing it in for free eventually?
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So people don't share documents anywhere without net? Seriously?
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Large portions of the US still don't have reliable internet.
Yes, sales determine how good a products is, because people do eventually recognize what a good product is.
Word gets around amongst friends and families when there is a Turkey.
No advertising can beat that. And, no sales is the result.
Normally I don't follow anything MS does, except MS Office, which I use. (haven't tried iWork in a while, but didn't like it when it was first launched)
But, I did watch that commercial and it is bad.
iPad is just for consuming content and the Surface wants to be a laptap in iPad
clothes.
That confuses consumers and that is why it is a flawed product.
Ill sit here and wait while you explain why the touch controls of Office 2013 don't work well with touch.
I'm sure you've used it before saying this, right? I mean, I have used both before I made my opinion. Surely you wouldn't be basing it off nothing.
Yeah? And I have never needed more carrying capacity than my car can give, and I can always rent a moving van if I need more space, so I think Ford and Dodge and Chevy should discontinue selling pickup trucks. Nobody needs those things right?
I'm glad that you have sufficient other options that you never feel the need for a USB port. To be honest, 95% of the time, I do too. But every once in a while I wish I had one. And we can't claim to know what's best for every other user, either.
Here's a real-world example I just went through: I volunteered with a kids' camp a few weeks ago. One of my jobs was to take and collect photos to put together to make slideshows. Most people would hand me the SD cards from their cameras so I could copy the files over. Several people came to me and said they had some great photos taken on their smartphones (to be fair, not just iPhones, but a Galaxy and a BB as well).
What do I tell them? "Email them to me" is pretty much their only option. They're not going to download/install/setup/invite Dropbox just for a one-time transfer, and Photo Stream and iCloud are not helpful in this case. In the end the dismal internet connection we had up at our campsite was too slow and they all gave up trying to send me pictures.
Is there a way to connect someone else's iPhone/iPod to your iTunes and just download some photos, without syncing everything else or establishing a "permanent" link between my iTunes and their device? I couldn't find it.
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So we are saying that iOS is worse than Android and OSX is worse than Windows. In fact, the best OS for desktops and laptops is Windows and the best OS for smartphones is Android. I think the same might be said for tablets, not sure.
Sales do not determine quality, they are only marginally tied. In a society that did research, you might be right. But that doesn't happen. People watch commercials, look to friends, and that is it.
Surface Vs iPad
After seeing this commercial, I am now intrigued by the Surface. I like my iPad, however I can't do any real work with it, more of a toy. The iPad is great for email, web surfing and games where the Surface can actually use office, and can be a replacement for a laptop. I don't use Windows so it would do me little good, but I would very much like the iPad to run OSX and be an actual replacement for a laptop like the surface is. I don't need a large iPod, I need an actual portable iPad that runs everything that is on my desktop.
After seeing this commercial, I am now intrigued by the Surface. I like my iPad, however I can't do any real work with it, more of a toy. The iPad is great for email, web surfing and games where the Surface can actually use office, and can be a replacement for a laptop. I don't use Windows so it would do me little good, but I would very much like the iPad to run OSX and be an actual replacement for a laptop like the surface is. I don't need a large iPod, I need an actual portable iPad that runs everything that is on my desktop.
It will not run 32-bit programs.
If you are truly curious about the Surface, though, I'd be more than willing to help see if it's actually the product for you. If not, you could likely get a similarly priced atom tablet that would run x86 programs.
They have...and people still don't want it. I don't blame them for trying something different. I don't think anything going to change though.
IMO the Surface RT should have been made flushable so that it could fulfill its destiny.
I'm not buying a surface anytime soon, but having the option is a huge plus compared to a single proprietary connector with absurdly expensive adapters.
A lot of Apple "fanboys" are writing it off simply becaue it's not Apple (or because it's Microsoft). After all, that's the trendy thing to do on MacRumors, right?
I was guilty of passing judgment too, until I actually wandered into the Microsoft Store in Toronto and, you know, actually tried one out. I walked in intending to laugh at it, just like the folks in this thread. I walked out reasonably impressed. I probably wouldn't buy one, but it wasn't absolute junk, either. Given a few more revisions, particularly when the Surface Pro gets Haswell, I may be very tempted to trade in my iPad 3. Remember, the current rev of the iPad is considerably improved over the first.
I want it, I'm just not in a position to purchase one and I'd wait for the 2nd or 3rd gen anyways.