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My god, what a bloated mess...

Tried Omnigraffle?

Hoping that at least 4GB of this is debug code but fearing that it is probably ribbon code instead ;). I tried Omnigraffle a while back but found it super annoying to use and not all that compatible except for basic shapes. As a standalone product it should be good enough to do a job but not if you need to interact with Visio files.

Installed OK, but has over-written Office 2011 despite the fact it states in the FAQs that it sits together with 2011.
Anyone else seen this?

Nope. My 2011 apps are still all there. Outlook imported everything from 2011 and I have not had any crashes or problems that others have reported, either. I am not going to get hung up on performance issues too much as this is the first public beta. It should get better.
 
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My Office 365 Home sub expires in April 2019... :eek:

[Edit] - Scrub that, I just fired up Outlook 2016, unticked Work Offline, entered my 365 credentials and all appears to be well.

I'm liking the initial look of it.
 

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Nope. My 2011 apps are still all there. Outlook imported everything from 2011 and I have not had any crashes or problems that others have reported, either. I am not going to get hung up on performance issues too much as this is the first public beta. It should get better.



My 2011 apps were replaced in Launchpad but they are still there in Applications under Finder. People are probably seeing them replaced in Launchpad and think the 2011 apps were deleted/replaced by 2016.
 
The Verge website wrote that Microsoft would offer the standalone version but they have not released the pricing structure yet.

Wow, I'm actually surprised over this. I'm on the subscription model (multiple copies/multiple platforms) but this is good news for those that don't need everything that a subscription offers or just don't like that model.
 
Installed OK, but has over-written Office 2011 despite the fact it states in the FAQs that it sits together with 2011.
Anyone else seen this?

It overwrote the apps in the Launcher, but the 2011 apps are still there in the Applications folder and work fine for me.
 
I have downloaded and installed the preview and was very excited about the shortcut keys being mirrored, as the lack of the same keyboard shortcuts makes the Mac version of Excel almost unusable for me.

The good news is that ctrl and shift shortcuts now work as per the Windows version. So for example you can select a row with shift+space and the insert a new row by using ctrl+shift+'+'. You can also use ctrl+c to copy, whereas before you had to use the cmd key. So that is a change for the better for Windows users

However, having used it for a short time, I think that you and I are going to be out of luck in another department. My most used commands involve Alt key sequences, e.g. Alt-E-S-V for paste special values, or Alt-D-S for sort. From what I can tell so far these are still not possible. Pressing alt after copying a cell does nothing, and I've tried every other key combo that I can think of to see if there is an alternative. It's possible that they may add this functionality in a later build (some features are still missing and have messages saying that they are not included in this build) but I'm not going to get my hopes up.

Another missing feature at the moment is the ability to customise the Quick Access Toolbar, but there is an option that is greyed out in the menu bar, so this will hopefully be included in a later build.

Overall, this is a step in the right direction for power users coming from Windows to Mac, but unless they add the alt sequence shortcuts that we are used to in the Windows version I'll be sticking with Parallels and the Windows version on my Mac.

You are right about the ALT key. My favorite ALT + = for sum function doesn't work.

The Control key hasn't entirely replaced Command key either. For instance, Control+A doesn't work.

Deleting a group of cell still requires fn + Delete instead of "Delete" on PC.
 
That's scheduled to arrive when hell freezes over.

I just don't think thats going to happen ever. :(

Tweet them asking maybe? Could ask them where Publisher, Project & Visio is while your at it :D

You never know, they did add OneNote for Mac after years of it being missing.
 
I wonder if Outlook 2016 will work any better with Gmail...:rolleyes:

Any word on this? I've never used Outlook, but I'm sick of Apple Mail's constant problems with Gmail. For the last few months I've had to keep a browser window open on Gmail to see the new emails coming in that are apparently invisible to Apple Mail.
 
Yep, I have Yosemite. I did restart and the same thing happened. I'm trying to download it using a different browser this time.

Frustrating! Hope this works out for you. I had no issues downloading and installing. Went very smoothly. Makes one wonder why this is hit and miss.
 
Well, downloaded, and everything is working for me. It's all a bit sluggish on my 2012 Mac mini (16GB RAM), but I guess that's beta software for you.

One question - possibly the wrong place, but how the heck do you disable the contact photo in Outlook emails? I have a big empty square next to the name and address fields, but I can't see a way of turning it off.
 
Is anyone else not able to use Outlook? It says "activating" then tells me its offline because I don't have a 365 subscription. Article clearly states it used to be for 365 users, but now its for everyone..

edit: saw some posts, looks like going offline makes its work
 
Frustrating! Hope this works out for you. I had no issues downloading and installing. Went very smoothly. Makes one wonder why this is hit and miss.

Okay, I know this makes no sense at all, none, but I downloaded the package using Firefox the first two times. No luck. Downloaded via Safari, and it worked. Whatever sense in hell that makes is beyond me.
 
Nope. However I have discovered that if you save a document locally that the next time you open word and go to save it brings up the local save window instead of online.

Isn't there an "on my mac" button once you click your save option?
 
Is anyone else not able to use Outlook? It says "activating" then tells me its offline because I don't have a 365 subscription. Article clearly states it used to be for 365 users, but now its for everyone..

edit: saw some posts, looks like going offline makes its work

Doesn't work for me. Tells me that I'm in read-only mode, won't activate because I don't have office 365 account and Work Offline is greyed out.
 
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