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Let's make sure the correct information is put out because it certainly isn't coming from you. You believed wrong.
Microsoft didn't SAVE anyone. That money that Apple received from Microsoft was from an Anti-trust suit against MS. They offered to settle out of court with Apple rather than drag the court hearings any further. Microsoft already was losing in court. Sure, Apple used those funds to restore themselves but they agreed to settle with Microsoft and made a deal in the interim and that was to allow Internet Explorer to be the default browser on the Mac since there was no default browser on the Mac. Please get your facts straight rather than being another one of those here who are defending Microsoft, which makes no sense on this forum.

Listen, I love Apple…but you clearly do not have your facts right. Did you look at the stock options that were given and everything. Microsoft gave MORE money than they settled for because Stevie had no one else to turn to but the dominant Microsoft, which is still dominant in areas. I believe 87-93% of the worlds computers are Windows based…that sounds pretty dominant to me.

If you really want to get into it lets pull up the stock information on that day and the economic impact it had. Wasn't it almighty Steve who said something like "this thinking that Microsoft has to lose for Apple to win needs to stop." So the great man admitted right there on stage in 1997.
 
Listen, I love Apple…but you clearly do not have your facts right. Did you look at the stock options that were given and everything. Microsoft gave MORE money than they settled for because Stevie had no one else to turn to but the dominant Microsoft, which is still dominant in areas. I believe 87-93% of the worlds computers are Windows based…that sounds pretty dominant to me.

If you really want to get into it lets pull up the stock information on that day and the economic impact it had. Wasn't it almighty Steve who said something like "this thinking that Microsoft has to lose for Apple to win needs to stop." So the great man admitted right there on stage in 1997.

Nah, no need to to go any further. You already lost all sorts of credibility when you referred to Jobs as "StevIE", brought up Windows' dominance when I never mentioned anything about "dominance" and referred to Steve Jobs as "the almighty great man". You seem mad too and have an agenda so this will be my final post to you because I know who and what I am dealing with now. ;)
 
The video may have been in bad taste, but it did hit a nerve. Lemon chiffon? Is that it? :confused: A gold iPhone? :confused: The whole 64-bit and iOS 7 thing has been a bit overshadowed, but once those release and people get a chance to use them, I think Apple will be proven right. Again.
 
The video may have been in bad taste, but it did hit a nerve. Lemon chiffon? Is that it? :confused: A gold iPhone? :confused: The whole 64-bit and iOS 7 thing has been a bit overshadowed, but once those release and people get a chance to use them, I think Apple will be proven right. Again.

It may have struck a nerve with very few but it served no purpose but to make even the biggest Microsoft fans see how pathetic Microsoft is and how low they will go. It's not like people are going to jump ship with Apple and run to the nearest store that sells Windows phones and purchase one.

Even with the Samsung ads that put down Apple's customers for being in line waiting for the iPhone 5, at least Samsung showed features of the GS3 in action.

What is the point of a large corporation (Microsoft) putting down a competitor's (Apple) latest product when said company isn't showing any reasons to buy theirs? It certainly was a poor attempt by Microsoft at doing damage control.
 
Funny the most popular threads on this forum involve ego, and fanatical side taking.

Probably the least important information on this tech site is a competitors poorly made videos.
 
I bet Baller leaves sooner than expected after this major fail.
MS, as big as they are and the amount of money they have stashed in Puerto Rico, they could have made better products. And a much better commercial.
 
SD cards are quite useful to many people, no scam at all.

Automatic Kitty Litterboxes are useful to many people too...but for some odd reason, we don't find them built into every home electronics product either...a combo dishwasher + kitty box, etc.

Yes, this seems like an absurd analogy comparison, but it actually isn't: the key to understanding if/when ANY 'something' is/isn't a scam has to do with the degree to which it may provide relevant utility & value-added relative to its disadvantages.

Listen to yourself, you sound pyschotic. SD cards scam? Why do Macbooks have them then?

Because the laptop is much more of a Content Creation device for that data form than a Tablet is, particularly when we consider base data storage capacity and image management workflow...most decent photographers know better to be destructive to their original, especially when it is the only copy (working directly off of the Memory Card).

And cameras, laptops and almost any mobile device you can think of.

And yet, look at just how slow OEM wireless has come to cameras....let alone as a cellular data connection. Ditto for OEM built-in GPS for Geo-Location.

Now sure, there's a few devices here and there, but neither of these clearly "useful" technologies have gone mainstream in cameras.

The reason basically is because their "usefulness" isnt that beneficial in the context of their accompanying trade-offs...YMMV at what point the marketing of such features cross into scam-domness.

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I have no idea why people are so against SD cards around here. While cloud storage does help mitigate its absence on the iDevices, not all tablets are sold with a 4G/LTE radio, and for those that are, you sometimes don't want to eat through your allocated data just to stream a bunch of media that could easily be stored on an SD card.

Which is actually the biggest problem with the claims that the cloud completely supplants the need for SD cards. In a perferct world where celluar bandwidth is relatively cheap and access to it is nearly unlimited (damn you lucky European bastards), cloud storage works fine. But in this "you pay us $80 for 1GB monthly, then we gouge you for any data you use over that" world, the cloud is just too expensive to access outside of wifi hotspots.
 
I have no idea why people are so against SD cards around here. While cloud storage does help mitigate its absence on the iDevices, not all tablets are sold with a 4G/LTE radio, and for those that are, you sometimes don't want to eat through your allocated data just to stream a bunch of media that could easily be stored on an SD card.

Which is actually the biggest problem with the claims that the cloud completely supplants the need for SD cards. In a perferct world where celluar bandwidth is relatively cheap and access to it is nearly unlimited (damn you lucky European bastards), cloud storage works fine. But in this "you pay us $80 for 1GB monthly, then we gouge you for any data you use over that" world, the cloud is just too expensive to access outside of wifi hotspots.

I think when you don't have something on your device you are the first in line to defend why it's not needed. Sometimes it's not rational, but most of what happens on here isn't rational anyway. :eek:
 
Nah, no need to to go any further. You already lost all sorts of credibility when you referred to Jobs as "StevIE", brought up Windows' dominance when I never mentioned anything about "dominance" and referred to Steve Jobs as "the almighty great man". You seem mad too and have an agenda so this will be my final post to you because I know who and what I am dealing with now. ;)

And there goes the dummy flying out of the pram..... Argument over !!!!!

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I bet Baller leaves sooner than expected after this major fail.
MS, as big as they are and the amount of money they have stashed in Puerto Rico, they could have made better products. And a much better commercial.

Baller leaves earlier due to this commercial.....please please tell me you were trying to be funny and just failing at it, if serious..... Dude get out more, the church of Apple does not exist, no need to worship ;)

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It may have struck a nerve with very few but it served no purpose but to make even the biggest Microsoft fans see how pathetic Microsoft is and how low they will go. It's not like people are going to jump ship with Apple and run to the nearest store that sells Windows phones and purchase one.

Even with the Samsung ads that put down Apple's customers for being in line waiting for the iPhone 5, at least Samsung showed features of the GS3 in action.

What is the point of a large corporation (Microsoft) putting down a competitor's (Apple) latest product when said company isn't showing any reasons to buy theirs? It certainly was a poor attempt by Microsoft at doing damage control.

1100+ comments so far.... That's very few for you? Lol wake up bro
 
This Apple vs. Microsoft stuff is so childish.

Let's remember, Microsoft SAVED Apple's AS* back in I believe 1997?

Your recollection of the facts is not quite correct. Microsoft's $150 million investment was more of a good faith investment as well as a move to keep the Justice Department at bay. Apple didn't need the money (they were sitting on $1.2 billion in cash), but they did need to show the investment community and customers it was going to be around for a long time.

The symbolic financial investment also included a commitment to continue producing Microsoft Office for the Mac. Now, that was important because if Microsoft had decided to stop producing Office for the Mac, the Mac would have eventually died. However, because of the threatened pressure from the Feds, MS knew they needed to do something to show they were not the predatory company they were being made out to be.

Did Microsoft save Apple? I guess we will agree to disagree. But there's no doubt at the time both companies did need each other.

"That pledge, and the $150-million investment in Apple nonvoting stock, is meant to reassure Apple customers and software developers who have become increasingly nervous about the Cupertino-based company's future."

"Observers say the deal, while a shot in the arm for Apple, also may help Microsoft by keeping antitrust charges at bay. Apple represents one of the only alternatives to Microsoft's Windows and the Microsoft-Intel hegemony."


http://news.cnet.com/2100-1001-202143.html

http://articles.latimes.com/1997/aug/07/news/mn-20281
 
I think when you don't have something on your device you are the first in line to defend why it's not needed. Sometimes it's not rational, but most of what happens on here isn't rational anyway. :eek:

Sometimes? I'd say just about all the time damn. I mean I could understand if it's something rare like "I really wish my iPad had a giant AM/FM reciever on it", but...SD cards? They're used everywhere still. There's no reason not to have one other than it...oh em gee...disturbs the curves and lines of the iPad and makes it look ugly.

There are companies out there that have made tablets thinner and lighter than the iPad and still manage to include one in there. Issues with size and space are hardly worth considering when it comes to something as small as an SD card port.

So yeah, barring a few random exceptions, I think disregarding something and defending its absence simply because your favorite device doesn't have it is short sighted and completely pointless.
 
...What is the point of a large corporation (Microsoft) putting down a competitor's (Apple) latest product when said company isn't showing any reasons to buy theirs? It certainly was a poor attempt by Microsoft at doing damage control.

Well, if you are familiar with large corporations, sometimes the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. It is certainly possible someone in Microsoft made these and did not intend them for official publication. Maybe it was someone's (poor) idea of an inside joke. The fact they pulled them and admitted their mistake speaks more to me than the original slip up. In any case I do not ascribe any evil intent to Microsoft as an entity for this. I do however find it fascinating the response to it, and the fact that some perfectly valid points made by the video are being glossed over in all the hyped up indignation.

You are right, very few people are going to be swayed by this. Those who already feel Apple has slowed its pace of innovation will continue to think that, and those who are excited by colored plastic iPhones will continue to be excited... :apple:
 
Nah, no need to to go any further. You already lost all sorts of credibility when you referred to Jobs as "StevIE", brought up Windows' dominance when I never mentioned anything about "dominance" and referred to Steve Jobs as "the almighty great man". You seem mad too and have an agenda so this will be my final post to you because I know who and what I am dealing with now. ;)

No you're quite wrong. Microsoft gifted Apple lots of money, and Steve thanked Bill for it. I'm an Apple fan too, but that's what happened and Bill is a great man for it.
 
This Apple vs. Microsoft stuff is so childish.

Let's remember, Microsoft SAVED Apple's AS* back in I believe 1997? They could have been the almighty scum you claim they are, but instead they invested in a company that was in ruins and lets face it, without that investment there would be no iPhone or iPad or iPod's, a FACT that I know all you Apple mega-lovers will argue but if you really want to get into the economics of it, not just the face of it, the truth is Microsoft saved a dying company.


True, Steve admitted as much when he said MS doesn't have to lose for Apple to win, he knew he owed them a lot and was privately grateful.

On topic, the lady in the MS video is pretty funny. Overall the video was well made, some don't like it but it's clever.

:apple:
 
No you're quite wrong. Microsoft gifted Apple lots of money, and Steve thanked Bill for it. I'm an Apple fan too, but that's what happened and Bill is a great man for it.

Please read this post because I'm not going to argue anymore with anyone that just says someone is wrong without backing up the statement. But while we're in this party, you're quite wrong. Read this. At least myself and this member posted information as opposed to you and the other member who just want to spout out words without information to back it up. Also I love how you bashed my post and not this one. ;) Also it might do you good to quote the correct post from me that makes your reply make sense because it doesn't.
 

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Then you've got two disks, and it gets more complicated. .


That is true. And when Apple starts offereing 32 Gigs of additional internal storage for the price of an SD card, $20 or so, then it will no longer be a desirable feature.

Until then...
 
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