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considered a mac...

I really wanted to make the switch, but what I need is a Pro, and I can't justify $3500 for the machine I'd need.

I considered a top-end iMac, but the glossy screen is a non-starter for me. The mini doesn't have enough power... There seems to be a real gap there. What I'd buy is a machine that's about $2000, with equivalent performance to a $1400 PC... and I don't need a screen (certainly not a glossy one).

So, I'm finally upgrading my XP --> win 7, and seeing how that goes. Still might make the move to Mac in the future... will see.
 
The whole section of the site just sounds like a whinny kid...

I find the "Simplicity" tab hysterical... from "The mouse works differently." to "Unlike Macs... Windows 7 support touch" and the famously useless windows "snap feature"

And I love how they even copied Macs slogan "They just work"

Give credit where credit is due. The snap feature was a really good idea and I love it.
 
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Screw You Windows. If Bill Gates never stole Steve Job's design Mac would be the most popular computer in the world and PC's would fail! PC, you will keep on failing and maybe in 10 years have to stop this stupid company. Adding a PC VS. Mac section on your website was a bold move. And most of the stuff you posted was ********! **** you windows! And I don't give a damn if I get banned because of vulgar language, etc. Windows deserves this kind of hatred after what they did and are still doing now. Windows is truly the devil.
 
Screw You Windows. If Bill Gates never stole Steve Job's design Mac would be the most popular computer in the world and PC's would fail! PC, you will keep on failing and maybe in 10 years have to stop this stupid company. Adding a PC VS. Mac section on your website was a bold move. And most of the stuff you posted was ********! **** you windows! And I don't give a damn if I get banned because of vulgar language, etc. Windows deserves this kind of hatred after what they did and are still doing now. Windows is truly the devil.

Ask a windows user what a typical Mac user is like and this man will be the resulting description.
 
What's Apple doing on the OSX platform?
Why not even a mention of OSX at WWDC?

Um... You do realise that the WWDC is a lot more than just the Keynote right? :rolleyes:

There were seminars on OS X going on. And XCode 4 previews started at the 2010 WWDC.
 
This campaign is really stupid and insulting to our intelligence, but my next computer will be a PC and if my iMac's internal hard drive didn't straight up die a year after i bought it I would dual boot or even try to install just Windows in a heartbeat. Windows 7 is a very nice OS. Mac was a nice six-year fling.

And apple's "I am a pc , I am a Mac" and apple switch ads didn't? Apple ads were full of more bs and some down right lies. Ms ad here is at least closer to the truth than any of apple's ad. Still full of marketing bs but not as bad as apple's.
 
i use bootcamp, I get both mac and pc which is one reason why I chose a mac over pc
 
What new Macs? They've all been refreshed with no USB3.

How many computers have USB 3.0?

Better question, how many consumer items even use USB 3.0 right now? Intel isn't even releasing a board with 3.0 until sometime next year from what I remember.
 
It's kind of funny they even bothered.

What Microsoft should do is get back to basics and simply write great software for any platform, because no matter whether it's a Mac or a PC, Microsoft wins.

But the goofball in charge of the company still thinks it's the nineties and it's still the battle for the desktop. I've said it before and I'll say it again - the moment Ballmer retires will be the moment Microsoft just might reinvent itself as a formidable technology company again. But Ballmer is just about as useful as a boat anchor that no one bothers to notice has been stuck in the water for all these years.
 
Can't prove it, but here's a conspiracy theory: I'm pretty sure that 'latest buzz' tweet feed on the main linked website is rigged.. Read any of the tweets, then visit the persons own twitter page and you will find no such comment as 'win 7 rocks! lol'... in page after page of their own tweets. Hmm just realized every refresh of the website starts the 'feed' over = simple ploy to look relevant.
 
Typical Microsoft. Windows 7 is a good OS, and I'm sure Windows 8 will be even better, but these ads are an insult to the intelligence of the user.
 
Apple had their chance with Vista and they failed to take advantage of it. Instead they were focused on iToys. In the meantime MS got their act together and put together an OS that is way beyond Snow Leopard.

That's the truth folks. Apple will not be in the computer business much longer (e.g., they already dissed the Pro market).
 
And apple's "I am a pc , I am a Mac" and apple switch ads didn't? Apple ads were full of more bs and some down right lies. Ms ad here is at least closer to the truth than any of apple's ad. Still full of marketing bs but not as bad as apple's.

What down right lies were there? I never really paid attention to the commercials so could you clue me in?

I'd figure with Apple being the media's love/hate go to company there would be an uproar and some lawsuits involved...
 
Macs might spoil your fun.
There are some things you simply can't do out of the box with a Mac like watch, pause, rewind, and record TV like a DVR.

Who the hell would want to do that? Either we'd have the media already recorded on our machines, or we'd go and watch it on our TVs.. with our DVR?

It's showtime.
You can't get a Mac that ships with a Blu-ray player, TV tuner, Memory Stick reader, or built-in 3G wireless. You can with PCs running Windows 7.

Blu-Ray playback isn't that much of a big thing; don't most people these days have an HDTV and a Blu-Ray player or something similar?

TV Tuner, yes I know how everyone loves to brag about their TV Tuner in their custom rig.. :rolleyes:

Any third party memory stick reader will be instantly understood, so we don't need a crapload of ports that are barely ever used adorning the side/front?

3G dongles don't exactly cost much, and even if they did, there isn't a PC out there that will have all three of the above?

Game on!
Most of the world's most popular computer games aren't available for Macs. And Macs can't connect to an Xbox 360. PCs are ready to play.

Um, what? Yes they can..


Direct TV connection.
Most Macs can't hook up to your TV unless you buy a converter dongle. Many PCs running Windows 7 are designed to connect directly to TVs, so you can watch movies and see photos on the big screen.

Nice use of deliberately convoluted language, you mean 'adapter'? Neither can most PCs, not that many still come with VGA, and only a few come with HDMI. Quite a lot of TVs support DVI, which MiniDisplay port is directly related to.

Macs can take time to learn.
The computer that's easiest to use is typically the one you already know how to use. While some may say Macs are easy, the reality is that they can come with a learning curve. PCs running Windows 7 look and work more like the computers you're familiar with, so you can get up and running quickly.

Better the devil you know, you mean? They can come with a learning curve for some, sure, but I know plenty of people who are non-computer literate people who moved to the Mac very quickly, that works both ways.

Working smoothly.
Things just don't work the same way on Macs if you're used to a PC. For example, the mouse works differently. And many of the shortcuts you're familiar with don't work the same way on a Mac.

This is stooping pretty low, it's very slightly different, it's not going to blow anyone's mind. Shortcuts don't work the same way? What does that even mean?

Use Windows 7 to simplify your life.
Windows 7 was designed to make it simpler to do the tasks you do every day, with features that the Mac doesn't have. For example, the new Snap feature makes it easy to view two documents side by side.

Snap is pretty useful, I agree. So is quicklook, so draw?

Touch and go.
Unlike Macs, many PCs running Windows 7 support Touch, so you can browse online newspapers, flick through photo albums, and shuffle files and folders—using nothing but your fingers. PCs with a fingerprint reader even let you log in with just a swipe of your finger.

Oh this is just laughable. Touch is definitely in its infancy being incorporated into an OS, and in the Windows implementation, it's not even finished.

Macs don't work as well at work or at school.
If most of the computers in your office or school run Windows you may find it harder to get things done with a Mac.

Sorry? If 'I' have a Mac, I think I'd know how to use it? That's like someone telling you people here speak Spanish, so you won't be able to think in English, even if you're English?

Sharing documents and spreadsheets.
If you use Apple's productivity suite, sharing files with PC users can be tricky. Your documents might not look right and your spreadsheets might not calculate correctly.

I don't have much experience with iWork, but Office:Mac works just fine because it's exactly the same thing as Office.

Giving presentations.
You'll have to buy a separate hardware dongle to plug your Mac into a standard VGA projector. Most PCs with Windows 7 hook up easily.

It's a legacy connector, and the adapter isn't exactly expensive?

Protecting your drives.
On a Mac, out of the box, you can only encrypt your home folder. With Windows 7 Ultimate, you can encrypt your entire hard drive and even USB drives. So your stuff can be safer wherever you go.

You can encrypt your Mac with FileVault which comes with OS X.

Macs don't like to share.
At least half the fun of having a computer is sharing the stuff that matters to you with other people. This is harder to do on a Mac.

Is it really? How do people mostly share things? With the Internet. Usually with a Browser, or perhaps with something like Dropbox?

Securely share your movies, music, and photos.
With a Mac, it's harder to set up secure sharing for your photos, music & movies, documents, and even printers with other computers on your home network. With HomeGroup, it's easy to connect all the computers in your house running Windows 7.

HomeGroup? All I have to do is tick a box and I can share my music library, or photo library, how is HomeGroup easier than that?

Macs might not like your PC stuff.
Plain and simple, if you're a PC user, lots of your favorite stuff just might not work on a Mac. With PCs outselling Macs 10 to 1, the reality is that most computer software is developed to run on PCs.

Whilst it's true most software is developed for Windows, I can't think of an example where there is functionality at all that OS X lacks that would prevent productivity?

Hassle-free files at work.
Apple's productivity suite file formats won't open in Microsoft Office on PCs. This can be a real hassle for Mac users sharing work documents with PC users.

iWork can save in Office formats just fine, as can OpenOffice, as well as Microsoft's own Office for Mac products they seem to have briefly forgotten about?

Points I've missed out I didn't even think of as worth challenging as they're just ridiculous.
 
Screw You Windows. If Bill Gates never stole Steve Job's design Mac would be the most popular computer in the world and PC's would fail! PC, you will keep on failing and maybe in 10 years have to stop this stupid company. Adding a PC VS. Mac section on your website was a bold move. And most of the stuff you posted was ********! **** you windows! And I don't give a damn if I get banned because of vulgar language, etc. Windows deserves this kind of hatred after what they did and are still doing now. Windows is truly the devil.

I thought a big contributor to Microsoft's market dominance was by their forcing licensing of Windows to PC manufacturers so regardless of whether a PC is sold with or without DOS/Windows, they sell a DOS/Windows license. So vendors might as well include Windows (this was back in the early days). Add to that Gates copying the Mac. The Mac team, on the other hand, saved a brilliant idea (the GUI/mouse) from the Xerox lab black hole. Though maybe we would have seen it one day eventually. Nah, Apple didn't steal anything. :)
 
Couldn't agree more!! OS X is up to almost 4% of all the computers in the world.. Poor Windows is only on 90% of the world's computers. They are toast, MS is DEAD!!! WOOOO HOOO Everybody, now turn and face Cupertino, drop to your knees, and join NebulaClash in our evening prayers to Steve!!!!

Its a slow bleed. Until I start seeing Mac users migrating to Windows, I am inclined to say that yes Microsoft is dying.

BTW, unless someone at MS decides to stop the bleed, they will die. Problem is, none of them seem to be intelligent enough to recognize the issue.
 
And apple's "I am a pc , I am a Mac" and apple switch ads didn't? Apple ads were full of more bs and some down right lies. Ms ad here is at least closer to the truth than any of apple's ad. Still full of marketing bs but not as bad as apple's.

They said mac mice work differently (lolwut?) and that keyboard commands are so different (when in reality you just use Cmd instead of Ctrl), and that's just the tip of it. How is Apple's campaign even on the same level of insult as that? The I'm a Mac ads oversimplified, sure, but they didn't try to claim Windows use an alien alphabet on their keyboards or that typing requires using your toes. And I'm not at all happy with Apple right now.
 
In the meantime MS got their act together and put together an OS that is way beyond Snow Leopard.

Care to explain how Windows 7 is way beyond Snow Leopard?

That's the truth folks. Apple will not be in the computer business much longer (e.g., they already dissed the Pro market).

Why does it always seem that people predict that Apple is getting out of the computer business in spite of the fact that they sell more and more of them every quarter?
 
I posted this in one of the other duplicate threads, but I will throw it out there again for good measure. The "sharing" tab on the MS website a complete lie. The truth is actually opposite. This is the biggest reason I switched away from Windows in the first place.
 
lulz MS just started making stuff up. Glad I sold my stock when ballmer took the helm.

It's easy with a PC.
On a Mac, you have to manually set up photo sharing, manually set up music and movie sharing, manually set up file sharing, and manually set up printer sharing. It's easy to automatically and securely network with all the computers in your house when they're running Windows 7.

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Hassle-free files at work.
Apple's productivity suite file formats won't open in Microsoft Office on PCs. This can be a real hassle for Mac users sharing work documents with PC users.

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Giving presentations.
You'll have to buy a separate hardware dongle to plug your Mac into a standard VGA projector. Most PCs with Windows 7 hook up easily.

oh noez my mack doesn't have vegeeay whatever will i do :/ In my college career, i've used vga a total of (0) times. Krispy Kleen dvi please.

Protecting your drives.

On a Mac, out of the box, you can only encrypt your home folder. With Windows 7 Ultimate, you can encrypt your entire hard drive and even USB drives. So your stuff can be safer wherever you go.

lets see I can get windows 7 ultimate WHICH I HAVE BTW for atleast 200 dollars as an upgrade from OEMs or I can just get PGP WDE which will encrypt everything from OS X to windows to the kitchen sink and i'm sure I can get a plugin for my physical mailbox too ( :D ) . sounds like a great deal
 
Wonder how this will affect sales?

But Apple already did this, c'mon, Microsoft, innovate something NEW for once!

But you probably can't.

So are you saying Apple was innovative with their adverts? Really? I do agree though, especially after Apple discontinued the awful ads this is a bad move by Microsoft. To be fair even though I like the Windows 7 OS (still prefer Mac OS X of course :D) their adverts have sucked. The "I'm a PC/Windows 7 was my idea" crap. Just awful, stupid adverts - but then again most adverts are awful.


Windows is dying, but it will take inertia many years before most people notice. The office cube will be the last to give up Windows, but that day will come too many years from now except for a few backwards operations that will never change.

This comment will get objected to. I don't care. I'm talking about the long view, and I look ahead. Wait and see.

Even though I appreciate how far into the future you're talking about I don't think Windows is dying. There's always a place for it and lets not forget that many people just want the cheaper PC and probably don't know the difference between a Mac and a PC. Still though I respect your opinion as its one of the more mature ones I've seen on this site.
 
When I hear the word "crap" in a post here, it's a pretty good sign that I'm dealing with another mindless fanboy incapable of making a rational comment....

All PC's and MS products are "crappy", "crap", "clunky", and "junky"... Of course, ALL Apple products are "elegant", "delicious", "sexy", and just "gorgeous"..

This is common fanboy lingo and most people using these terms have no idea what they are talking about, they just repeat terms they hear other fanboys use..

Hey spillproof, I bet you "skate to where the puck is going to be" don't you??

Yup, you got me. I want to make love to Stevey's sexy body on an apple shaped bed in his elegant aluminum walled penthouse suite where I can run my fingers through his gorgeous hair and lick delicious apple syrup off his nipples.
 
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