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Microsoft and Windows: software and hardware for low-end workers doing low-end jobs, and toys for kids playing games.

Always have been. Always will be.
 
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for a year now i am happy with the surface pro 3 - but i am waiting for the surface book 1tb ssd replacing both the surface pro 3 and the maxed out 15" Macbook pro late 2013 which i am not in love anymore ...
 
for a year now i am happy with the surface pro 3 - but i am waiting for the surface book 1tb ssd replacing both the surface pro 3 and the maxed out 15" Macbook pro late 2013 which i am not in love anymore ...
typical kid in-love and manipulated of the video event
maybe wait and try it before sell all your goodies??!!?
 
Sry but in my company 2 employes bought for work an i5 for acad and others app and some install uninstall stress,and yea registry are a mess after 7 months
Maybe your work doesnt apply a lot of installs uninstalls

Seems like you're trying to battle anecdotal evidence with anecdotal evidence. Not saying it's the norm, but the actual SP3 users in this thread haven't run into any of the issues you're talking about.

These are not for real pro users

Says who? I use mine daily, running pro apps all of the time. I run most of the Adobe and Autodesk suites all of the time.
 
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typical kid in-love and manipulated of the video event
maybe wait and try it before sell all your goodies??!!?
how can you buy something based on a video event ?!?
i mean these type of persons are targeted by Microsoft with these products
 
"WITH THAT FULL POWER YOU GET 12H battery "
I bet if you use that Nvidia at max you will get about 4-5h...what a lies
 
And yet when Apple announces their products 3 months before, you must be jumping up and down in joy without even trying it.
Not me. I will never buy a product even a car or house without know about it in real life, but you just say what Microsoft wanted
 
Surface book is for what users?
who want a laptop? they will buy a macbook pro or for gaming alienware!
for tablet? they will buy an ipad
for a hybrid? they will buy a surface pro 4
For me. Who has a computer for serious gaming, no tablet because the little use I make of one cannot justify its cost, and looking for a laptop with actual performance. I don't care if it's heavier than a surface pro, but I can use it everyday for work, run real applications on it and play on it during travels or anything else where I can't get bring my desktop computer.
 
Had I been a Windows user, I would probably love to own a Surface Book.
Looks and sounds like a quality piece of kit.

What I find really interesting is how much Apple and Microsoft have started to 'lend' from one another. Both hardware and software wise. Should make for some intense competition in the near future.

Hoping for new, redesigned MacBook Pros packed with lots of awesome stuff. Soon.
That's still what I would love to own.
 
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For me. Who has a computer for serious gaming, no tablet because the little use I make of one cannot justify its cost, and looking for a laptop with actual performance. I don't care if it's heavier than a surface pro, but I can use it everyday for work, run real applications on it and play on it during travels or anything else where I can't get bring my desktop computer.
for that you can replace your real computer and surface with a nice Alienware laptop
 
Wait until you actually try one.

It really does seem gimmicky to detach a screen but (of the OS is tweaked to handle it) then it's a huge convenience.

Apple already has a solid desktop OS and a passable tablet OS so it really wouldn't take much for Apple to evolve the MacBook.

I agree. I've always said that 2-in-1's made a lot of sense so long as someone could execute the OS properly.

I think Apple will continue to methodically evolve iOS and iPad until it eventually replaces the aging Mac OS.
 
I think that Panos did an excellent job with his presentation btw. You can tell these products (well, Surface in particular) are his babies. This is what made Steve's presentations so endearing. He loved the products, and you could tell he invested a lot of his time and energy into them.

You don't get the sense of that from Phil Schiller, or Tim Cook, or Eddie Cue. And of course Sir Jony Ive seems so pretentious, he is basically a walking parody of himself (now that's a conundrum).

Panos is not nearly as polished as Steve, or close to being as charismatic - but he's come a long way as a speaker from the first time I watched a presentation. You could tell he loved those Surfaces. I've never seen Microsoft employees actually genuinely excited for their products before. It was astonishing.

Notice the trainwreck that was the Google event just a few days ago. Those guys were so dispassionate I wondered why I was bothering to watch something that they didn't even seem they wanted to be at.

The guy who did the Lumia presentation cracked me up as well. He was such a ... different ... personality to have on the stage, but it worked!

There was some actual energy in this presentation, something I haven't seen in these tech companies in a little while. Refreshing.
 
I'd like to have also 16GB RAM and 1TB SSD in my 12" MacBook.

I'd like to have display my data and files with iOS App version if it's in Tablet mode and with the OS X App version, if a Keyboard and ext. Touchpad is connected. This can't be so much complicated, you have the API's and Frameworks.

The world isn't black and white with separate devices for black and white. With 1TB I don't need any Cloud sync between my MacBook and iPad.
This is the official note from Apple: "You don't need it. We know what you need until competition beats us.. then we follow them!"
 
for that you can replace your real computer and surface with a nice Alienware laptop
Or I can keep my real computer, whichalready has way more horsepower than any Alienware that will be made in the next few years, does everything I want or need, and supports a lot of game in 4K.
And buy this because this is sexy as hell, is light, can become a tablet for the few times i need it, support a stylus and has a professional look an alienware sure does not have.

You're trying to compare replacing a Mac Pro + macbook air with a macbook pro.
 
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I keep hoping MS hits their stride again. I like the new CEO, he seems to be moving them in a good direction. If they built up their industrial design team and got rid of the last few people who seem to think not-quite-there is good enough, they might get interesting.

The Office/El Cap fiasco is inexcusable, though. They blew that in a big, big way.

I'm still wary of a company competing with their customers. MS will eventually have to decide if they want to maintain the open model they were built on, or go walled garden like Apple. They've shown they're capable of better products when they go the walled garden route, but changing their business model over entirely is going to require deep gene therapy and more than a little turmoil.

We may wind up with Apple and MS competing using the same business model and Google being the open alternative-- most likely by being more open than Microsoft ever was by open sourcing more of their code in exchange for more saleable customer information.
 
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Great, so I'll buy a phone with "facial recognition" so someone can print off my Facebook profile picture and get into my phone.

And Microsoft apparently still hasn't learned that hybrids are only so-so at both the things they do. There's a reason Apple hasn't caved to the "pressure" to make one. It's because it's a terrible idea.

Time to step up your game, Micro$oft…
Like Apple never caved into the pressure of making large iPhones or large/small iPads or stylus.. Never! Apple never caves in!
 
Hahaha, wow, the video they made (here on YT):


... is so Apple-like, I seriously kept expecting to hear Jony Ive chime in - in fact, do a little SJI in your head while you're watching, it's _super_ fun :D

That's an immensely fugly Fisher-Price rip-off.
 
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