Microsoft Says 'Disappointment' of New MacBook Pro Has More People Switching to Surface Than Ever Before

[jmoore5196]

Neo-switchers deserve what they get. Anyone who thinks MS offers long-term solutions for productivity-minded creatives is deluding themselves. Windows is still ... Windows.

 

[latweek]

“It is easier to forgive an enemy than to forgive a friend.”
― William Blake

 

[Workerbee Redux]

So, Apple claims the new MBP's are the best-selling MBP's with a silly bar ever, and MS claims there are more switchers ever.

Maybe they are both right and those switchers are the hard-core (or "pro") users getting jettisoned, while kids of Chinese tycoons buy up the MBP's like crazy.

 

[sundragon]

It's okay, wait till they switch back to MacOS when they use Windows 10 (Yes, a HUGE improvement over Windows Vista and 8/8.1 but, let's be honest, the bar was low with Vista and 8) and have a "tabletlaptop" that does neither well...

*I had a Surface briefly and I'd rather have a tablet and a laptop*
*I have a 2016 Lenovo Carbon X1 for work and it's got crappy battery life and Windows 10's updates are fun when they break things*
*Loving my MBPr 2016 that has no issues even though people on here have their panties in a bunch*

LOLOLOLOLOL /sarcasm

 

[yaxomoxay]

hahahahaha

Don't believe it for a second.

It's probably hyperbole, obviously MS dude is going to call it for MS. However, Apple opened Pandora's box, and gave MS an opening to "attack" the quality of Apple (something sacred until a couple of years ago).

 

[ghost187]

Wait till the iPhone 7S comes out! The internet is going to break with disappointment

 

[NZP]

For me any box that is slave to MS OSs is never an option. I'll patiently wait for Apple to build a real MBP again.

 

[furi0usbee]

I'll keep my 2012 rMBP on life support until the very last moment. It still runs like it did back in 2012, so I'm keeping this until it dies. With 8GM RAM, SSD, and ACTUAL PORTS.... Apple doesn't make anything comparable now. I've never had a computer outside of Apple Car. With this one, I'll keep it for years more if I can, until it can't run what I need it to. Then I'm probably NOT getting another Mac.

Apple has left me, I never left them.

 

[Bkxmnr]

I believe there is a lot of truth to this. My youngest made courageous decision to go with a HP Spectre for her college laptop, departing from the MacBook Pro that her older siblings purchased.

 

[yaxomoxay]

For me any box that is slave to MS OSs is never an option. I'll patiently wait for Apple to build a real MBP again.

From the future...

 

[furi0usbee]

For me any box that is slave to MS OSs is never an option. I'll patiently wait for Apple to build a real MBP again.

Windows 10 is pretty nice. On a clean install, I could live with it.

 

[Rogifan]

Imagine what people here would be saying if Phil Schiller wrote a similar blog post about Samsung or Microsoft or whomever. Such the double standard.

 

[Elijen]

tbMBP is a gimmick. Battery is pretty bad. Graphic glitches don't help either.
So I also made the switch. Back to my rMBP 15 from 2014

It's not that bad how some people are picturing it. Nobody has still created a better laptop. I think 2nd gen of this laptops will be great and there will be no dongles problem.

 

[Keniutek]

I bought a SP4 for my wife and she LOVES it. Not a great tablet but an awesome, small and capable laptop machine (sans the battery life). Seriously thinking of getting the 5 for myself next year.

 

[wordoflife]

No reason to get all defensive. Hopefully Apple will learn and make a better product next time.

Nobody has still created a better laptop.

Maybe. But many people are finding it to be a poor value.

 

[Martyimac]

Luckily I am in a position where I don't need to buy anything at the moment. Thank goodness because if I was, Microsoft would be getting my money instead of Apple.

Thanks Tim, for nothing worth buying.
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No reason to get all defensive. Hopefully Apple will learn and make a better product next time.



Maybe. But many people are finding it to be a poor value.

And in my experience, I would bet money they won't.

 

[Spanky Deluxe]

Yeah, Microsoft is leading now. As someone that loves the Apple ecosystem and has always bought Mac products in the past, I'm struggling to justify carrying on like this and I just don't know where to go or what to buy.

My Mac Pro is something like 5 years old and still feels like a better and more powerful and upgradeable machine than anything offered by Apple since. My 30" Apple Cinema Display is pushing 10 years old now but Apple hasn't released a product that seems like an improvement since. My MacBook Pro is 8 years old and failing and my iPad is four years old and unusable due to slowness now.

I'd like a laptop/ipad hybrid that's good to replace my MBP and iPad. Something like the iPad Pro but that also runs OSX. I want an upgradeable modern Mac Pro. I want a > 30" retina display Apple monitor.

It really feels like Apple don't want me as a customer anymore.

 

[iShater]

I can see that.
However, I went back to Best Buy to give a try to both the Surface(s) and the new MBP... both were serious disappointments. MS is picking up steam, you can see that they're actively working at changing their own products and being innovative, but the Surface didn't really convince me. The MBP... meh.
If I had to chose, I would chose the Surface.

Could you elaborate on what disappointed you? I haven't played with it yet.

 

[PhoneI]

the new macbook pro. what a mess.
the new surface pro. what a brilliant iteration.

also the price is quite nice - doesn't surprise me at all. M$ did a good job there.

As a Surface Pro 4 owner I can honestly say...."HAAAAAAAA". There is nothing "brilliant" about it.

 

[topgunn]

Any improvement on a small number is a large percentage.

"When I turned two I was really anxious, because I'd doubled my age in a year. I thought, if this keeps up, by the time I'm six I'll be ninety." - Stephen Wright

 

[levitynyc]

I'm considering one to be honest.

Ive been been on this forum and a mac user for a decade. My 2012 MacBook Air is on life support and the new MBPs are disgustingly expensive.

Not updating the Air is a kick in the mouth.

 

[nighthawk67]

Which one would be better to play clubpenguin on?

 

[Dan From Canada]

Microsoft has announced November was its best month ever for consumer Surface sales. In a blog post, the company said more people are switching from Macs to Surface devices than ever before following the "disappointment" of the new MacBook Pro, particularly among professional users.

Shortly after the new MacBook Pro launched, Microsoft launched a promotion offering MacBook Pro and MacBook Air owners up to $650 credit towards a new Surface Book or Surface Pro 4. Microsoft also unveiled the Surface Studio in October, and the all-in-one desktop has been met with positive reviews.

Microsoft's Surface Book starts at $1,499, the same price as Apple's new 13-inch MacBook Pro with a standard row of function keys. Touch Bar-equipped models start at $1,799 for 13-inch models and $2,399 for 15-inch models.

Article Link: Microsoft Says 'Disappointment' of New MacBook Pro Has More People Switching to Surface Than Ever Before

Sounds like desperation from Microsoft to me.

Anytime you need to compare yourself to the competition you are already behind.

 

[samcan]

This is why I'm switching. I knew the day would come, but didn't expect it until at least 2020.

 

[kstotlani]

I am not a fan of the new MacBook Pro but isn't the Performance Surface as expensive if not more. A 15 inch MacBook Pro with 2.7GHz, 16GB, 1TB and dGPU of 4GB will cost 3300 and the same specs for a 13 inch surface is also $3300. Not sure how it is less expensive. Am I missing something?