We have 2200 Dell Latitudes, 800 Macs and about 100 Surfaces in the enterprise. Employee satisfaction rates with the Dells and Surfaces are about the same, around 35% happy... Macs are at 80%. It's a Surface, but it's also still Windows...
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Microsoft Says 'Disappointment' of New MacBook Pro Has More People Switching to Surface Than Ever Before
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Apple didn't say "best selling".. Best "online sales". Quite the difference. Especially when remembering buying online *was the only way*.
There's nothing substantive in this report. You can't tout an increase in product sales over the competition without including comparative market analysis/details.
I'm sure they're all well and good but I'll never leave the Apple ecosystem. As someone else commented earlier: windows is still windows.....
I hope this story is correct. Competition usually breeds better products, so maybe all of us consumers will benefit from this. I own the new MacBook Pro 15", and for my non "professional" uses, it is an excellent machine -for the most part, i.e. cost, dongles. However, it is OS X that has me using a Mac. If I wasn't software dependent, I would swing back and forth a lot. I do have windows 10 on my computer as well, through Fusion, so I will continue to evaluate my options.
Yet I moved from my rMBP to a dell xps and didn't upgrade my iPhone 6 to a 7 (still evaluating options) so Apple must be doing something wrong?
This says few things: Either Microsoft really has made a better product, or Microsoft is in the same position as before, just Apple came out with a bad product, so Surface looks better.
Either way, its good for Microsoft.
My next Mac is a MBA, *not* a MBP... Just waiting on ordering
Either way, its good for Microsoft.
My next Mac is a MBA, *not* a MBP... Just waiting on orderingIf the Windows tablet app market wasn't so abysmal, I might have stuck with my Surface Pro 3. It's not perfect, and I still prefer the Mac, but Apple is focusing more on frills than usability at this point, and it's starting to show.
I went with the year-old model instead of the new one, because the 2016 MBPs are overpriced and because they lack necessary ports. I didn't want to carry dongles for USB and for an SD card reader in addition to the network and video dongles. (new hot item on the Apple Store: the dongle utility belt!). I'd have been thrilled with the old form factor and just a CPU and graphics bump, but I'll accept the slower performance in exchange for not losing the other capabilities.
Given that this machine will last me about 3 years, Apple has until 2020 to right its ship. The laptop market will likely continue to decline anyway, and if they run away from it like they have the monitor and router markets, then I'll likely go to another OS ecosystem.
Given that this machine will last me about 3 years, Apple has until 2020 to right its ship. The laptop market will likely continue to decline anyway, and if they run away from it like they have the monitor and router markets, then I'll likely go to another OS ecosystem.
Around 6 months ago I started a new job and switched to using a 2015 MBP at the office, in addition to my Macs at home. We have other users with Windows and with Linux, and honestly ALL OSes have their annoyances.
The biggest issue our Linux users have had are using tools like Zoom, WebEx, and Skype. But for development (Java), it seemed to work pretty well for them.
battery life nor price will ever get me to use windows 10 for my laptop. I have to service that rubbish daily. I refuse to have something so break happy as my DD(daily driver). I will go Lenovo and mint linux before I ever go back to windows. I can not get caught in the same mess that I am trying to pull people out of.
Made the switch about two years ago and haven't regretted it. Got a Surface Pro 3 and since upgraded to Surface Pro 4. One thing you can't experience from checking it out in the store is Windows Hello facial recognition. In the past 9 months I might have had to use my pin 4 times to log in.
Also here is a thread where I talked about why I switched.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/why-i-am-now-a-proud-owner-of-a-surface-pro.2015071/
Also here is a thread where I talked about why I switched.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/why-i-am-now-a-proud-owner-of-a-surface-pro.2015071/
Bit petty really, Microsoft have some great products out at the moment, smacks of a lack of confidence that they need to refer to the competition. I've never liked this when either Apple or Microsoft indulge in this sort of nonsense. Does it really boost sales alienating prospective customers?
I really like Tim and he's very talented, but I'm starting to agree. No vision and no real innovation whatsoever lately. God I'd love to see Tim as COO again and, say, Craig Federighi as CEO.
Because the Surface Book is available with those configurations. Oh, wait a minute.
I hope Apple takes note and listens to its customers.
We want ports, card slots, bigger batteries, faster/better graphics.
Not what Apple is offering with the current MacBook Pro's.
Apple needs to stop behaving arrogantly and listen carefully to its customers.
We want ports, card slots, bigger batteries, faster/better graphics.
Not what Apple is offering with the current MacBook Pro's.
Apple needs to stop behaving arrogantly and listen carefully to its customers.
weren't professionals if they switched to Windows What do they gonna do? Play Solitaire or use calculator for work?
What do they gonna do? Play Solitaire or use calculator for work? Absolutely! With their pure greed 20% UK price increase, the 13" MBKP 512GB is near £2000!!! Even a damn MacBook M5 is £1550. Who in their right mind would pay that??? Especially for something that only lasts 4 or 5 years. Simply crazy.
For me it's the software not the hardware. If it does the job quickly and reliably I am sold. GBs and processor speeds, touch bars and kick stands are irrelevant.
For me windows is still to unpredictable for everyday use. Mac OS still runs software that I need and does it well.
Pro or surface is a choice for consumers who plan to surf Facebook , not for people who have work to do.
For me windows is still to unpredictable for everyday use. Mac OS still runs software that I need and does it well.
Pro or surface is a choice for consumers who plan to surf Facebook , not for people who have work to do.
You must mean no one has created a better MacBook. With Windows there are options and there are countless incredible machines that are more powerful, cost effective and multi-purpose. Apple must make perfect products to compete and their NOT doing that anymore!
Want a professional laptop, look at the Dell XPS15...
Want a gaming laptop, look at the Razer, Asus, Gigabyte etc...
Want a powerful ultra book that is a convertible, look at the new HP x360 which is 2.8lbs convertible laptop with 16gb of memory 7th generation i7 and 10 hours of battery life for $1,200...
In 6 months were going to be seeing eGPU (External Graphics) via USB-C that you can connect to almost any laptop that will turn a computer into a full on gaming machine or professional desktop machine. Oh, Apple disabled this functionality on the new MacBook.
The quality of all computer manufactures are catching up with Apple and at a lower cost. Most computer manufacturers are not looking for 40% margins! The money your giving Apple isn't going into the products but going into their bank accounts and why they have 230 billion dollars!
Microsoft just showed off Windows 10 running on Qualcomm Snapdragon processors (Yea, mobile processors). Imagine a phone that has mobile apps and can run x86 applications which hooks to a eGPU via USB-C! A full quad core Qualcomm Snapdragon desktop! Thing a business would be interested in that? Think a family who can't afford multiple devices would be interested in that?
Apple wants to sell you MANY products while Microsoft and other companies are producing products that can be multi-purpose at a reduced cost. Apple isn't innovating anymore... even when it should be easy since they make products that are for a single purpose!
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MBP: first of all, obviously the cost is the first thing. The touchbar is a gimmick, and it's obvious. To me (an iPP owner) is also counter intuitive. I kept moving my hands to the touchbar and then I tried to touch the screen that was closer to my fingers than the touchpad. So suppose that you want to change a color of a square. You have your hands on the touchpad, then move your hand on the touchbar. Then you have to move back your hand, however... the screen is closer to a touchscreen would make sense... I wouldn't even have to lift my hand to select the object I want to modify. If you have an iPad it might be a nightmare as you will have to actively think of what you're using to know if you can touch the screen or not after you move your hands from their "rest" position on the keyboard/touchpad to use the touchbar. I also found it not really responsive as I expected (could've been best buy issue) and the space on the touchbar is definitely limited. I didn't really use it for work, but the disappearance of most ports (and Magsafe) felt disturbing...
Surface Book: It is definitely an interesting machine, but it was bulky. It reminded me of the 2011 MBP. I can see myself using it, but it is not as easy to use as an iPP. YOu have to press a button to detach the screen etc. and the pen doesn't compare with the Apple Pencil. However, the full OS and the "tablet" functionalities make it a great machine. Again, I can see myself buying it at least to enjoy a full OS.
Surface Pro 4: It's a "power tablet", definitely a good competitor with the iPP... however I am not sure if this machine wants to be a laptop, or a tablet. It felt bulkier than my iPP.
And Microsoft never provides sales of their Surface line. If it's selling so well how about providing actual sales figures. Amazing how everyone says Apple Watch must be a failure because Apple won't provide sales figures yet never apply that same standard to Microsoft and Surface.