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I don't imagine any long time Mac user switching to MS. Hello???. It's Windows we're talking about. It's not a hardware thing. It's the software that matters. I'd rather stick with an old mac than with any Windows computer.
 
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Bit petty really, Microsoft have some great products out at the moment, smacks of a lack of confidence that they need to refer to the competition. I've never liked this when either Apple or Microsoft indulge in this sort of nonsense. Does it really boost sales alienating prospective customers?

You do realize that what you have described was pretty much the M.O. of "Steve Jobs @ Apple"....

In terms of mudslinging, Apple has done their share....

That said, I do agree with you that taking the "high road" comes off more tactful than just "dissing the competition". I can see a company like Samsung doing the comparison, humble-bragging, backhanded marketing stuff, but it doesn't seem congruent with Apple's brand, really.

Microsoft....well, they're just trying out some of the other co.'s marketing tactics to see what sticks. Not that it takes away from their products -- that's what Windows 10 is for.
 
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Unfortunately their disappointment with the Surface Pro 4 will send them right back next year. I own an SP4 as a secondary machine and the hardware is great - the keyboard/trackpad are one of the best I have used on such a small laptop/tablet. The problem is the battery life is wildly unpredictable and I have had so many issues with just freezing, losing inputs and randomly restarting for updates that I don't feel like I can rely on the thing. The other problem, it really isn't great as a tablet, at least not compared to an iPad.
I’ve just bought one so can’t comment on battery till I’ve had some feedback. What I can tell you already though is that it’s massively more capable than an iPad.
 
I played around with a Surface Studio a bit. Pretty cool in theory. I'm getting into photography, so I kinda like being able to use a stylus on screen for editing and creative work. Not sure what it's like in the long run. I have gotten Pixelmator for Mac which is kinda good, IMO. My main gripe against the Surface Studio at the moment is MS support. I tried going to MS support for help installing Windows on my MBP a few years ago. Not only would it be $49 and take 48 hours to install Windows, but the guy was rude. He actually told me that if he was anyone else, he'd puke on my laptop. Seriously? Is that how you treat your customers? Obviously, I didn't stay there. I eventually got it working myself for free & a lot quicker, too. Apple support, on the other hand, was always nice, quick & free 95% of the time. Only time it wasn't was motherboard replacement that took a few days.
 
And Microsoft never provides sales of their Surface line. If it's selling so well how about providing actual sales figures. Amazing how everyone says Apple Watch must be a failure because Apple won't provide sales figures yet never apply that same standard to Microsoft and Surface.

Did you quote the wrong person? Not sure what your reply has to do with my previous comment or the comment I replied to.
 
The SurfaceBook is as "meh" and overpriced to me as the new MacBook Pro, but more people will still choose MacBook over the Microsoft offering.

Competition is good, though. And I think Apple is getting the message with this release and others. I'm certainly not counting them out and know they can do better going forward.
 
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I genuinely have switched my 13" class notebook from a 2014" high tier rMBP to a Surface Book. The new 2016 13" MBP offers very little improvement over my 2014, if anything in some aspects a retrograde step. The Surface Book has truly impressed me far more than any other portable has done in many a year. I took a year to decide as this is a primary system used in a professional role, equally absolutely no regrets and for my need a far better device.

The numbers I have no idea, however for me Microsoft`s statement is accurate. Had someone even suggested that I would switch to Windows, let alone Microsoft hardware a few years back I would have literally laughed.

Mac owners with Surface Book thoughts here on MR, one of several similar threads...

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Macbook Pro 2016 sold in first five days, four time Surface Book sold in an entire year...
 

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Yeah no, I'm not switching to Windows anytime soon for my laptop. Good to see it works well for Microsoft though. Competition is good.
 
coming from microsoft, i definitely believe it..
these people at microsoft are the worst in PR. When all the Note 7's exploded, you didnt hear apple say "oh iphone sales are going up because of samsung." Why cant they just once shut up about the competitors and just talk about their products? pathetic

I think because Apple's always been in the position and kept the "We don't blab to the media and cause a fuss" where as other companies do, because they know it will make headlines for *them* , and they know that.
 
As I sit here doing professional development work on my new 15" MBP+TB with 5h12m of battery life left having been working since around 10am (3pm now), and the fact that I choose to work on this machine when I have a 27" iMac 5K (4GHz/24GB/1TB) sitting upstairs, should speak volumes to anyone who doubts this machine is anything but great!

I respect the opinion of anyone who takes the time to form an actual opinion of their own rather than just 'retweeting' the opinion of others. Sadly I think many opinions above are 2nd hand at best, trolling at worst and based on nothing of substance.

Perhaps Microsoft have indeed seen more trade-ins than before but since we don't know if that was 3 instead of 2 last time or 300,000 instead of 500 last time, it's completely meaningless. I find it very hard to believe that anyone would switch from Mac to Windows because they might have to buy a dongle or two. Also bear in mind that the new MBP was severely supply constrained throughout November with no machines shipping until the last 2 weeks of the month.

Yes the price going up is unfortunate but here in the UK that is largely for FX reasons. Also, the addition of Touch ID along with the TB is not a cost-free addition and will most likely account for the rest of the increase. I personally like the TB and find it useful but for those who don't yet, you need to give it some time for developers to start incorporating it in their apps. For me, Touch ID alone is worth the extra cost anyway.

To anyone with an open mind reading this, don't take my word for it or anyone else's, go see a machine yourself and spend some time with it in the store. Do the same for competing products by all means but for heaven's sake make your choice based on your own, informed opinion.
 
Take note Apple. It is a nice machine but for the money, it's lacking in legacy connectivity, graphics power and main memory. Also battery life sacrificed for thinness.

For a Pro laptop, thinness is not the first consideration. 32 or 64GB could have been available with a larger battery.

I see your point, but after a certain degree packing a laptop with high TDP chips is going to turn it into a mITX computer with a screen bolted on. Apple's latest laptops are more than powerful enough for what a laptop needs to do at a 'Pro' level. Apple thinks anything more is best suited to a desktop computer and I agree, I'd like to point out their Mac Pro but, we all know the state of that now almost literal trashcan (it really is living up to it's nickname).
 
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