There's a fine line between courage and stupid, and I think we know which side of the line Apple ended up on this time
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Don't believe it for a second.
Now now, just because Jony likes any ports he must include perfectly balanced, doesn't mean it's stupid, does it? Maybe there's a fine line between genius and just obsessive.There's a fine line between courage and stupid, and I think we know which side of the line Apple ended up on this time
ThisTake note Apple. It is a nice machine but for the money, it's lacking in legacy connectivity, graphics power and main memory. Also battery life sacrificed for thinness.
For a Pro laptop, thinness is not the first consideration. 32 or 64GB could have been available with a larger battery.
Two GREAT examples of why I won't buy a 2016 MBP. (And there are other reasons too)
Now now, just because Jony likes any ports he must include perfectly balanced, doesn't mean it's stupid, does it? Maybe there's a fine line between genius and just obsessive.
Yeah, sad but true because Avid and a plugin bundle is an ass-ton more expensive than FCPX. And you still have to add plugins that we kind take for granted between FCPX, Motion, and Compressor. -Which only run on MACosThin+, etc.
But then, there are the system requirements that exclude most macs these days unless you're doing "cuts only" -etc.
http://www.avid.com/media-composer
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For meetings, why not a Chromebook or an iPad?
I'm over 60, I may very well be on my last notebook now.There will not be DVD drives in Apple laptops ever again. And I would be shocked if future Apple laptops had USB-A ports.
The USB-C port is a standard. Even if you skip this 2016 Macbook Pro... the USB-C port will still be there on the next one.
It will be the port for the next 20 years.
That's a long time to not buy a Macbook Pro.![]()
Most devs bring their laptops to meetings. Do you expect them to bring a desktop machine to meetings?
My feeling Apple will rue the day it blithely decided to jettison its high end customers. That as small as this market is it can still make a decent profit for them, but far beyond that the demands in excellence required raise all else Apple and improves the brand.
Mr. Cook obviously thinks otherwise, and has bet the farm on iOS. With the Macintosh viewed as a legacy product he has no love, respect or interest in; the introduction of the 2016 MBP could argue against this, but is an iOS/OSX hybrid, and an insult to what the MacBook Pro once stood for—not to mention should be.
Much as myself and others may not like this, perhaps Mr. Cook is correct in his strategy and he can do without us as customers, looking to all the many more who are largely satisfied with their iPhone, iPad 'Pro' or MacBook 'Pro.' Maybe.
Yet it could be argued that Apple since the demise of Mr. Jobs has largely existed upon his legacy, and thus far thrived through Mr. Cook's skill in extending the life of existing products (if obviously not with most Macintosh).
Products developed and introduced under the reign of Mr. Cook seem far more questionable. Witness the clunk of the iWatch, which among other things is begging for a far better battery, not to mention some higher purpose in use. Then that he presumably excels in, logistics, are a mess with an assortment of products delayed or largely AWOL on introduction. One wonders.
Or they cannot even get iOS right, which sprang from OSX. Perhaps a renewed interest in and resurgence in all Macintosh could reinvigorate their entire product line. It would require only a paltry sum from their many billions, quite possibly paying dividends many times over. The only real cost would lie in a few bruised egos at Apple who have other ideas and directions in mind. Theoretically.
In practice Apple seems oft adrift, directionless, and listing to port.
So buy a full-fat laptop. Condescendingly calling something that works for many others (including professionals) an "itoy" just goes back to my issue with the level of entitlement demanding Apple make exactly what YOU want. Vote with your dollars. If enough dollars go elsewhere, Apple will take note and change course... of course... it's also possible more of the dollars are fine with what Apple makes and you're more of the edge case. Apple is a business after all.
You're not going to gain much on battery even if Apple did make them bigger. Like I said, the FAA limits it to 100w hours and Apple already uses 76w hours. If Apple did everything the so called "professionals" around here wanted (Nvidia GPUs which are much higher TDP, dropping LPDDR to use DDR4 and larger RAM amounts), you'd end up with a thick bulky workstation replacement that had to be tethered to a power cable. I think it's a pretty safe bet Apple would lose more customers than they'd gain if you look at this objectively. Look at the gulf between the Mini/iMac and Mac Pro that has existed and been complained about since the days of the G5 Tower.
So, again, go buy what works for you.
if all your existing backup drives are USB-A, you either buy new drives, buy dongles, or buy iCloud storage. Pick one
Performance boost is just Intel being slow. Even with Kaby Lake you would have similar results (but more power consuption).Just out of curiosity: is no one here developing Apps for iOS?
Nearly everyone is complaining about the new MacBook and moving to M$. What is the option for App Developers?
I also bought the new MBP and in general- due to lack of alternatives - will stay with it. I also have those poor battery life issues, problems with external HDDs that crash the whole system and not a so big performance boost compared to my "old" rMBP with similar specs.
Stop buying external enclosures. Even if you have to use a dongle, the BlackMagic Design Multidock II is the best thing to happen to my studio since the SSD. Just buy bare drives and swap as needed. iCloud is not encrypted and is not a bargain.
Yeah, sad but true because Avid and a plugin bundle is an ass-ton more expensive than FCPX. And you still have to add plugins that we kind take for granted between FCPX, Motion, and Compressor. -Which only run on MACosThin+, etc.
For meetings, why not a Chromebook or an iPad?
Good question. I had heard "not bad" things about Windows 10 and wanted to give it a try. So I did.Why?
Good question. I had heard "not bad" things about Windows 10 and wanted to give it a try. So I did.
I took the Lenovo laptop back the next day, got a refund, and bought a refurb Macbook Air from Apple.
I learned my lesson.
Well that just got added to my Christmas want list.....WoWzers.....Didn't know that existed.
There will not be DVD drives in Apple laptops ever again. And I would be shocked if future Apple laptops had USB-A ports.
The USB-C port is a standard. Even if you skip this 2016 Macbook Pro... the USB-C port will still be there on the next one.
It will be the port for the next 20 years.
That's a long time to not buy a Macbook Pro.![]()
Shave a zero off of that 20.I'm calling it. USB-D by mid-2018.
Good question. I had heard "not bad" things about Windows 10 and wanted to give it a try. So I did.
I took the Lenovo laptop back the next day, got a refund, and bought a refurb Macbook Air from Apple.
I learned my lesson.
There have been posts on MR essentially saying about the Mac what you said about the surface book.After trying a Surface Book with Windows 10 and returning it I just ordered a 2015 rMBP 15''.
I would have bought the 2016 model but the keyboard, GPU problems, battery time, and touch bar were deal breakers for me.
The Surface had it's fair share of hardware problems. In particular the pen, display, and battery time of the tablet. I couldn't really find any other Windows laptop that convinced me. Razer looks good on paper but so many QA problems and their support is horrible. Since I don't live in the US that was out of the question. The Dell XPS line is full of coil whine problems and the specs that are available in my country aren't that good for the price.
The 2015 rMBP is a proven workhorse with abundant performance for my needs, great keyboard, super fast SSD, no issues with the GPU or the battery, and all the ports I need. The screen is flawless for the sRGB space and I couldn't care less about a thinner or smaller machine.
Windows 10 is actually good. Super stable, fast, and decent aesthetically. The deal breaker for me was something I hadn't even considered. The Windows ecosystem is plagued with old software that doesn't support scaling on hi DPI, or that simply can't satisfy my spoiled workflow with the great macOS ecosystem.
Some example of apps I use constantly and there is nothing that compares on Windows:
Don't get me wrong, Windows 10 is good and getting better, but it's in a transition that will take a couple more years until it builds a modern ecosystem. I have a gaming rig with Windows 10 that I only use to open Steam and it's perfect for that. A dedicated Windows workstation for just a single purpose would be great (Adobe, Autodesk, etc). But that is not the machine I need.
- Alfred
- iStat Menus
- Karabiner
- BetterTouchTool
- FontCase
- iTerm
Apple will probably never test the waters of lowering their prices unless they are really feeling the heat.
I would have bought the 2016 model but the keyboard, GPU problems, battery time, and touch bar were deal breakers for me.
The Surface had it's fair share of hardware problems. In particular the pen, display, and battery time of the tablet.
Some example of apps I use constantly and there is nothing that compares on Windows:
- Alfred
- iStat Menus
- Karabiner
- BetterTouchTool
- FontCase
- iTerm
I've literally never had any kind of issues with it. The pen has never been a problem and neither has the display (what on earth are you talking about?)