Oh look. A decently portable and well made laptop with a powerful cpu and gpu and usb type A + type c and a sd card slot. This this is so much more "pro" than any Apple Laptop.
Funny - some of what you refer to is hardware, not windows itself.
Viruses are much overblown on these forums.
Ads / spyware - not really an issue. Again overblown.
You can get perfectly good anti malware apps for free.
Microsoft is adding continuity to windows 10 for android. Mac OS only supports iOS.
What's so innovative?
It has VASTLY inferior I/O to even the 13" MBP, and nevermind the 15". You can get those 2 USB 3.1 Connectors and SD Card slot for around $15 on Amazon all day long. And then the 13" MBP will STILL have 20 Gbps of I/O Bandwidth available, and the 15" MBP will STILL have 60 Gbps of I/O bandwidth available.
SurfaceBook: Proprietary Dock Connector that adds $200 to the price. MBP: Industry-Standard USB-C/TB 3 Ports that can connect to a wide variety of "Docks". MBP suits a MUCH larger "Application Envelope".
Not to mention the fact that, although the Nvidia GPUs are somewhat faster than the AMD GPUs used in the MBP, they do not have nearly the same External Display-Driving ability as the AMDs (which is why Apple chose them).
I don't for one second believe their 17 hour battery life, unless 8 of those hours are spent with the screen so dim you can't read it except in a pitch-black room.
MBP still has the fastest SSD on the market BY FAR.
MBP can still have a TouchBar. Laugh if you will; but most people that have them, think they are pretty cool.
Windows OS. 'Nuff said.
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No, it isn't. And I use both every single day.
I do photo and video editing and illustration. I also do a lot of music/audio production. These are significantly faster (and some features I use aren’t even available in any comparable Android device/App).
What's so innovative?
Oh look. A decently portable and well made laptop with a powerful cpu and gpu and usb type A + type c and a sd card slot. This this is so much more "pro" than any Apple Laptop.
I have an SP2 and SP3. Did not need to try SP4 and the SB 1 to find that they had many problems.
If you compare what Panos says and how it is actually using the thing, you will notice a lot of half truths ... aka lies about the product.
Hopefully this one will offer a far more robust experience and not be money down the toilet of frustration.
Cheers.
i--and many windows users--never use the start menu. I just keep all my apps pinned to the menu bar. Its very simillar to the mac dock scaled to its smallest size with animation turned off. I personally think when the two os's are set up intelligently they almost indistinguishable.... that Start Menu Tiles you see almost 100 times daily vs something you don't require in macOS (menu bar clock shows the time).
Hardware without software is no good
They do have software lolHardware without software is no good
i--and many windows users--never use the start menu. I just keep all my apps pinned to the menu bar. Its very simillar to the mac dock scaled to its smallest size with animation turned off. I personally think when the two os's are set up intelligently they almost indistinguishable.
I prefer windows browser over finder, and the windows windowing style--which recapitulates the software menus on the top of each window. This is hugely more intuitive for multi window use on large or multiple monitors.
And yes--the windows taskbar shows the time date!
Yeah, but bet not for e.g. CAD work.IBM switched a bunch of their users to Mac and reduced HelpDesk support costs on those users by about 80 percent from memory.
Don’t have the study handy but google it. It’s readily available.
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for example
https://www.computerworld.com/artic...-are-even-cheaper-to-run-than-it-thought.html
... rrrrright, may be it will add some "more inspiration" for Apple to keep up with competition?It took a while but the competition is finally putting out consistent compelling products. Too bad iMessage keeps me from trying anything else. Lol
Looks to me like the same price as their MBP counterparts. Does that mean we can stop bitching about Apple's prices being too high?
Not really. I got infected browsing to legitimate sites that had their ads infected. With Windows, not only do you need antivirus, but also an ad-blocker these days for security. I hate blocking ads and cut their revenue off, but I need to do that for security reasons.
And Windows 10's built in antivirus is just as good as anything else - as in you cannot and should not rely an any AV software to keep your system 100% clean. Practice safe habits and you will be fine on either platform. But I do need an ad-blocker on Windows these days and I have not run into any issues on the Mac yet without an ad-blocker.
Apple just need to update up their game in graphic cards. Other than that. Ill stick with a Macbook Pro for now
Guess a Porsche is "somewhat" faster than a truck.....
Oh look. A decently portable and well made laptop with a powerful cpu and gpu and usb type A + type c and a sd card slot. This this is so much more "pro" than any Apple Laptop.
Sure, if we ignore the fact that you get twice the power and more than 1,5 times the battery and and and and whatever else they promise at "the same price"? Just the battery life on that thing makes me reconsider once again. My rMBP2013 finally seems to have come to the end of it's life. It's shutting down randomly and I can't have that from a work machine. I've gone through 3 2016-2017 macbook pros and always returned them. I was getting ready to give up but I guess I'll just get surfacebook 2 after all. I can live with it although I'll miss macOS. Then again, maybe I'll just test drive the keyboard and touchpad first. It could be even worse than the MBP one.
I think even Godzilla could press these buttons so, what's wrong with your hands?
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Well, if you understood how to use the proper tense of a word we'd take this comment more seriously.
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You know that a Surface Pro and Surface Book are not similar, right?
Well it certainly has the better hardware and features than the MBP. Even several people have said they are considering ditching their MBP for this device. So what kind of car would the surface 2 be then? And what of car would the MBP be in relation?The Surface Book 2 is not a Porsche when compared to a MBP.