Had issues with previous Surfaces. Bought a Macbook Pro 2015 15" and never looked back. Don't know what Microsoft has to offer, but you don't need a $3000 facebook machine with i9 and 64gb 
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Microsoft Says Its New Surface Book 2 is Twice as Powerful as Latest MacBook Pro
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I said way more than just 'thinner,' but that's the only point you wanted to tackle. No, thinness and lightness isn't everything; however, it's just laughable that a 2003 Apple notebook weighs as much as several current non-Apple ones.
All around, a 2003 PowerBook is built better than many semi-recent non-Apple laptops. It's plain as day. Hands down, the most advanced laptop of 2003.
As for the new MacBook, it makes sense for those wanting a multi-monitor setup. A single USB-C cable carries video, audio, power, and data... you don't NEED the extra ports. In the old days, it would take one cable per function.
Well you seem to really want to highlight thinness and weight in each of your posts, so that's why I mentioned that I would prefer an extra pound to ensure way better battery life, better gpu, more breathing room for the better processors, etc. I would imagine that most of the people in here are males that can carry a 3-4lb laptop/tablet, which isn't anything compared to having to carry a MBP and ipad + dongles. At the end of the day, we have different needs in a personal device, which is pretty apparent. You care more about aesthetics and looks, I care more about productivity and features, which is completely fine and seems to be the general consensus between the average PC vs Mac user.
Sure. For those things you should run the platform that best supports your application.
However, the number of people working at IBM doing CAD (given they’re an IT service delivery company these days) is probably minimal.
As it would be at most companies.
A couple things:
1. Windows 10 wasn’t built from the ground up. That’s ridiculous.
2. There are ads in the start menu: http://bfy.tw/EYTW
Apple would never do this.
3. Surface tablets download candy crush automatically upon connecting to the internet (bloatware). Again, Apple would never do this.
4. Windows 10 collects a large amount personal data and sends it to Microsoft. This is well known. Goes without saying, but Apple would never do this.
Everything you said is wrong.
1. Windows 10 wasn’t built from the ground up. That’s ridiculous.
2. There are ads in the start menu: http://bfy.tw/EYTW
Apple would never do this.
3. Surface tablets download candy crush automatically upon connecting to the internet (bloatware). Again, Apple would never do this.
4. Windows 10 collects a large amount personal data and sends it to Microsoft. This is well known. Goes without saying, but Apple would never do this.
Everything you said is wrong.
Thank you for the info. It isn't really that much more weight considering MS has to put batteries in both halves of the laptop/tablet. At least that is how I understand the tear off screen device to function.
I don't just care about looks... since when was design just about how something looks? It's about how it functions and how it feels.
I don't want the best possible specs (on paper) crammed into an absolute piece of crap; that just means that I'd be doing the same tasks I already do, but on a flying turd instead. At the end of the day, I want other things besides impressive-sounding specifications. I want a good keyboard; I want a good trackpad; I want a good screen; I want quality construction; and I want a perfectly, symmetrically-designed piece of hardware that is at least not obscenely bulky and loud. What good is a fast machine if it's not comfortable to work with it?
My Mac Pro desktop is a better example. If I cared about how it looked, I'd have it on top of my desk instead of on the floor... and, I'd also cut a window in the side so that I could see its innards. But, no: the innards of a Mac Pro tower weren't situated as such so that they would simply look 'good,' they were meticulously and strategically positioned so as to function in the most efficient way possible. The result? A Xeon workstation with three separately-cooled zones w/ firmware-based fan control; 20+ temperature sensors; intake fans and exhaust fans; HDD sleds that can be slid directly out; and a separate CPU/RAM daughterboard which could slide right out of the case, following a simple flipping of two latches. This design makes it effortless to work within such a machine. It's not to look good (although, its beauty lies in the fact that it works well AND looks clean at the same time)... it's just meant to work well. I'd rather have a sophisticated machine like this, rather than a rat's nest box that just so happens to be equipped with the latest and greatest i7 CPU and tons of RAM.
By the way, Windows subtracts a great amount of value from hardware.... it takes even good hardware and makes it far less useful. Software matters, too. The fastest computer in the world wouldn't be nearly as useful as a mid-range machine running OSX.
No cool-aid here, I've always been platform agnostic. I used windows 10 and OSX simultaneously every day and linux every once in a while. I just think the 2 in 1 is something they could really excel at with what they have already done with the ipad and macbook pro but instead they give us a touch bar.
So if it isn't just about looks, but design as well...then how come the the Mac Book Pro that you just mentioned, was designed like crap? I literally read the description of your computer in Jony Ive's voice. You make it sound good, but in reality, it isn't anything special or out of the ordinary. Those things have overheating problems left and right! Are you saying that case design beats everything that PC builders/owners have access to? If you believe that, then I need you to step outside of the walled garden for a moment to see how much better the hardware is on PC side.
Just imagine how amazing it would be to actually have OPTIONS?!?! Imagine a world where you could actually purchase the same components that Apple purchases and resells to you, but for MUCH cheaper? Then, what if you could actually DECIDE on your own case, liquid or air cooling, so many different brands of motherboards, ram, gpu's, etc. Imagine a world where you could overclock a chip that would still live much longer than it would inside of a stock throttled Mac Pro, because of the better cooling. Imagine being able to have all of your drives in an easy access array, and being able to add lighting or leaving it bone stock, modular/non modular? What if you could decide between an actual POWERFUL GPU/CPU, whether it be from Intel/AMD/Nvidia, and not forced between a very limited amount of options? Wouldn't it be cool if this actually existed? Well...it does! And you clearly have been missing out. But then again, maybe not...because we have different wants/needs out of our machines. Again, you heavily focus on the design of the machine in your post, which makes me believe you care more about the design over functionality.
"The fastest computer in the world wouldn't be nearly as useful as a mid-range machine running OSX" Wait, whaaaat?!?! You know what, you can stay in your walled garden with that oblivious mindset. Apple is not the greatest thing on earth. It's not that I hate Apple, its just that Apple could never offer something to me that could even compete with any of my available options. I'd rather spend my money with companies that won't limit what I can do, or try to think for me.
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And look at the date on Surface, it is coming from the future!
I'm probably getting one 15" or the newer version of MBA with i7. I bought new macbook but I don't like the touchbar and the keyboard feel.
My old MPA had perfect feel on the keys, if the newer one still has the same feel I might go for that
I do realy like how pc:s are going this direction too, I feel that apple is going a bit off currently
My old MPA had perfect feel on the keys, if the newer one still has the same feel I might go for that
I do realy like how pc:s are going this direction too, I feel that apple is going a bit off currently
In some situations if your Mac has sufficient specifications performance of the Virtual Machine can equal that of a of a Physical installation (with the exception of gaming). I have proven this running Windows 10 in a Parallels Desktop virtual environment.
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It is also true that modern day macOS contains a lot more bloat than OS X Snow Leopard.
I am not going into this PC vs Mac war. No, both Windows and Mac OS are great at this point, and they have their virtues and weaknesses.
The Surface Book is good, but I have mixed feelings about it.
There are definitely good this about it. The keyboard is very good. The trackpad is not as big as the one in the new MacBooks, but it is top-notch. The screen quality is good, with sharp images and good color.
However, I must say the form factor bothers me. I cannot fold it back too much because of the hinge. And also because of that, the screen seems to be a little loose and not as firm as it should be. Plus, I do not think the 3:2 form factor is a good choice for a 13.5" screen, let alone 15". The 12.3" screen of the Surface Pro goes well with the 3:2 screen because it allows enough vertical space. For a 13.3" or 13.5" screen, I would say the 16:10 form factor of the MacBooks would be better. And for a 15" screen, I would prefer a 16:9 format, since it already allows enough vertical space and there is additional horizontal space for multi-tasking. A 15" screen with a 3:2 form may be weird, and make it even looser due to the hinge.
Plus, I am not sure how these machines are more powerful than the equivalent MacBooks. The 13.5" version of the Surface Book uses a Core i7-8650U quad-core processor, which is the 15W low-power variety of the Coffee Lake. The 13.3" MacBook Pros use the 28W version of a Core i5 Kaby Lake. While the Kaby Lake is a dual-core processor, and the Coffee Lake is quad-core, the Surface Book will be certainly more powerful. But what when Apple updates the Mac? Will a 15W Core i7 Coffee Lake in the Surface still beat a 28W Core i5 Coffee Lake in the Mac?
As for the 15" version, well, I am not sure the Core i7-8650U of the Surface Book compares to the already quad-core Core i7-770HQ 2.8 GHz or the i7-7820HQ 2.9 GHz of the current 15" MacBook Pro. I guess the Kaby Lakes should still be far more powerful given they are at a different league here.
The Surface Book is good, but I have mixed feelings about it.
There are definitely good this about it. The keyboard is very good. The trackpad is not as big as the one in the new MacBooks, but it is top-notch. The screen quality is good, with sharp images and good color.
However, I must say the form factor bothers me. I cannot fold it back too much because of the hinge. And also because of that, the screen seems to be a little loose and not as firm as it should be. Plus, I do not think the 3:2 form factor is a good choice for a 13.5" screen, let alone 15". The 12.3" screen of the Surface Pro goes well with the 3:2 screen because it allows enough vertical space. For a 13.3" or 13.5" screen, I would say the 16:10 form factor of the MacBooks would be better. And for a 15" screen, I would prefer a 16:9 format, since it already allows enough vertical space and there is additional horizontal space for multi-tasking. A 15" screen with a 3:2 form may be weird, and make it even looser due to the hinge.
Plus, I am not sure how these machines are more powerful than the equivalent MacBooks. The 13.5" version of the Surface Book uses a Core i7-8650U quad-core processor, which is the 15W low-power variety of the Coffee Lake. The 13.3" MacBook Pros use the 28W version of a Core i5 Kaby Lake. While the Kaby Lake is a dual-core processor, and the Coffee Lake is quad-core, the Surface Book will be certainly more powerful. But what when Apple updates the Mac? Will a 15W Core i7 Coffee Lake in the Surface still beat a 28W Core i5 Coffee Lake in the Mac?
As for the 15" version, well, I am not sure the Core i7-8650U of the Surface Book compares to the already quad-core Core i7-770HQ 2.8 GHz or the i7-7820HQ 2.9 GHz of the current 15" MacBook Pro. I guess the Kaby Lakes should still be far more powerful given they are at a different league here.
I used 2 out of 3. Are you counting SP1? Hope not.
Who claimed I am an expert. Considering your clame of being a professional in the consulting field, should I say even a expert creative photographer ... I think you may be projecting.
Are you serious or just a another throll?
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What are you talking about? Your question doesn't make any sense. What is SP1? What is 2 out of 3?
My response to a prior post was pretty clear. The guy said he did video production on his smartphone. The context of the discussion related to Apple's model where you carry a smartphone, a tablet, and a laptop (3 devices) vs. Microsoft's model where you carry a smartphone and a Surface (tablet and laptop ... thus 2 devices).
Now if you have a question from that, I'll be happy to answer it... because what you posted makes no sense.
The Wintendo praise in this whole thread is disgusting. I'll tell you this I'll let you all see the 1400 trouble tickets we get on a daily basis just on our Wintendo 10 team, we have techs still battling with updates that fix one thing for a customer then break something else that is critical for the customer. We install a printer on Wintendo 10 one day for a customer, they get an update next day it's gone...then when you try to reinstall it you reboot and get a BSOD with a stupid smiley face, give me a freakin break. I think we use Reset and System Restore on a daily basis. All those gimmicky stupid animations and that "Fluent Design" crap they push, along with redesigning all there main apps/programs to try and compete and give users more options, half the time don't work and you have to use Powershell to try and restore them. And FFS, god forbid they get a rootkit or persistent malware that destroys the entries for the Start Menu, we had a tech working on a customers machine for 19 hrs just to get the Start Menu to re-open, we have to redo entries using Powershell and then repair file and registry permissions using CACLS. So for those of you that say Microsoft is doing this and that and Wintendo is so freakin great....**** you have no idea the POS that Wintendo 10 really is. Try keeping a team of 40-100 techs up-to-date on all the freakin release builds for Wintendo 10, Slow ring, Fast ring, Insider Builds, Fall Creator Update builds...it's nothing but a big frucking cluster fruck. Every week we release a company newsletter just to keep our techs informed of whats working in whats broken in each and every freakin build. We have a room that has a couple of blade servers so we can run Wintendo 10 virtually so we can test things out. IT'S NOTHING BUT TRASH ALL OF IT.
Look man I have two Surfaces. SP2 and 3. 2 colleagues have an SB. So I guess I’m pretty familiar with the Surface line.
Take my observation has it is.
Has I really hope SB 2 robustensss leaves up to its hype. I do.
Cheers.
PS: If you want to know we’re creative professionals are heading in terms of tooling, have a look at the recent Adobe MAX conference. I have to because I’m am not one of them, although I work with them.
OK, you quoted the wrong post from me so I had no idea what you were talking about. You said you had used SP2 and SP3, and that you didn't need to have any others, but that Microsoft was lying about the Surface line. There is an SP4 and a 2017 SP... 2 more generations, and the SB. Having no experience with any of these you've drawn conclusions about their new product that you've not touched. I have no experience with SP3, but have used SP4 and currently own 2017 SP. The refinement between the last two was big. The current SP is the best computer I've ever owned, and the only one that excited me more than when I got my MacBook Air and Thunderbolt Display years back.
If I came on too strong, sorry. These threads are just a bash fest. Apple and Microsoft both have pros an cons and make good stuff. I feel one is more innovative in areas that are important to me, which is why I've shifted away from Apple. Not everyone has to agree, but bashing things you have not used and claiming the company is lying ... not necessary to discuss.
When you start off calling Windows names, you've really lost any argument you try to make beyond that. Sorry but fact of life is most of us don't have issues.