Absolutely nothing Apple makes anymore is class-leading, and that is objectively true and sad.
Microsoft Says New Surface Pro is Faster Than 15" M3 MacBook Air
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Absolutely nothing Apple makes anymore is class-leading, and that is objectively true and sad.
Sooner than you think I guess. Either way much sooner than Apple finally gives the iPad an os it deserves.
I think Timmy has been more busy counting money than pouring money into R&D to make their products future proof again.
Apple maybe rich but I’ve never seen a company as big and rich as Apple coming with such incredimental upgrades, or nothing at all, year after year. Their market share loss on all fronts should have happened years ago.
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StoneJack
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Office is the "killer app" and has been ARM native for a while. Same with VS Code and most of MS software iirc.
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I'd say that remains to be seen. MS has been trying to get more and more developers to jettison their older codebases so that developing for ARM would be easier, but as you can imagine, it's been a case of herding cats. This is one area where Apple's tight control over its hardware has always proven to be incredibly effective - Apple has basically completed four major platform transitions without too many hiccups (68x >> PPC >> OSX >> Intel >> ARM) because they have been able to get developers to adopt new coding standards far in advance.
StoneJack
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Apple car, emojis, pride wallpaper
StoneJack
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Ipados is as outdated as Symbian now. Windows on arm will crush it just like in the ipad ad. IPadOs is now a horrible, limited, old, inefficient piece of software which requires multiple steps for easiest operations such as attaching a file to mail, and which barely enables users to perform most rudimentary operations and fails to deliver most basic features such keeping a file on a desktop. Oops it doesnt even have a desktop
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And yet, the iPad is still basically the only competitive tablet on the market, today, with the Surface line maybe giving it a little bit of a run (but really, the Surface line serves a fundamentally different market).
Not when all the creative suite adobe apps will run circles around the crippled iPad os. Apple has been neglecting iPad os for too long. The sales figures prove it.
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I hope you're right - but right now we're talking about vapourware. Perhaps in a year from now we'll be able to judge for sure.
MacsAre1
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Are you running all web based apps? Going to just run Android or Chrome OS? If not, then app compatibility is still a major issue. Even though you can often build the apps yourself from source in Linux, most were built for x86 and x64 and are not guaranteed to run on a different instruction set. And there's no emulator like Rosetta or Prism to make them work.
MacsAre1
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Adobe literally just released ARM versions of most of their Creative Suite, plus anything else will run via emulation, unlike iPad OS. You can judge now.
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Dude, this isn't the Babylon Bee. You're going to have to try a little harder than just repeating "blue pride wallpaper" and unoriginal "woke=broke" jokes when you're dealing with people who actually have at least a three-digit IQ.
It is important to remember the typical Windows users the thought of $1000 or more on a computer is not even in the realm of possibilities. Some of that is due to assuming the $1000 machine offers no better experience than the $500 machine.
Of course the fastest PC I have ever used is Windows ARM on Parallels. Windows 11 is no MacOS, but it is good and by far their best effort. The ARM version is probably better because they must of dropped a lot of legacy components to make it work.
Of course the fastest PC I have ever used is Windows ARM on Parallels. Windows 11 is no MacOS, but it is good and by far their best effort. The ARM version is probably better because they must of dropped a lot of legacy components to make it work.
MacsAre1
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People also forget the announcement of improved Prism emulation is great news for Parallels/VM Mac users who run Windows, as the emulation will run much better. Would be interesting to compare performance of x86 apps in Parallels (using Prism to emulate) vs. Crossover (using Rosetta to emulate).
rp2011
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I can't wait to see the reviews. We will know soon enough. This time next year we should know if it lived up to the hype,
That is because not doing so will put someone from that company in jail.
Allen_Wentz
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Actually they are pitching this against the Macbook Air which is Apple's lowest end laptop computer - - released more than a year ago. Good for the Surface line to get stronger, but it is not at all a reflection on the power of Apple laptops.
And (IMO) the constant whining about base RAM gets old. Folks who need more RAM should just buy more RAM. The point about box store comparisons is interesting, however. Do you suppose many people do that, ignore Win OS versus Mac OS and instead compare based on base RAM at the box stores?
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If your focus is gaming then you have been starving yourself using a Mac which are not gaming rigs. One thing to note is there is virtually no resale market for self-built gaming PC's or for that matter any PC. $1000 new PC would be lucky to get $200 in 5 years. The Mac Studio will have significant resale value 5 years from now. I am not criticizing, but it is worth noting when comparing the two.
I have used and sold/traded in a lot of Macs for my company and friends/family. I sold a 2011 MacBook Air for $250 (original cost $1299) and traded in my 2018 MBP in January for $700 (original cost: $3000). Those are ridiculous residual values that PC's could only dream of. Same for iPhones and iPads.
Of course your goal is gaming and you made the right choice for you.
Digital Dude
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Just prior to the release of this new surface, I had just completed configuring the surface Pro 10 for business. It’s a bit more robust than this new incarnation, but I think next year will be more refined AI integration. 👨💼👆
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The workstation I'm using right now cost me under $2000 (CAD) to build a year ago. A similar Mac Studio would have cost me over $3500. Personally, I'd rather have that extra $1500 now instead of five years from now when I finally decide to upgrade again.
Unfortunately apple hasn't REALLY been competing on the top end, just performance per watt. The GPU side apple has seeded to Nvidia and even Radeon. TBH I almost wish apple would build a gaming console that's focused on not just graphics but advanced AI to play against/with and just use that to catapult their GPU/Compute chips. That's a big area apple is behind in. Then again most of those more powerful cpus are for severe and I'm glad apple is focused on users/small studios.
Odd. I have been using the Samsung Book S fanless laptop with an arm processor released in 2019. It even has LTE built-in that I am sure Remond will copy again.
I own a M2 MBA. It can't run an engineering software that I want to use, therefore, it must suck.You got MY attention Microsoft! Can you load up the demo project for Final Cut Pro and let me know how fast that renders?
Oh, still only Windows?
Then, how does this comparison help anyone? Exactly? How much faster are you than your real competition, Intel or AMD? Oh, and how compatible, that would also be important. Unless those comparisons would not show you in a good light, of course.