Microsoft Says Windows 10 PCs 'Do More' Than Macs in Latest Ads

[aloshka]

With the quality of the Macbook camera, you could even use a draw of the user and the system will log in lol I think Windows Hello only works with certain kind of web-cam.

It uses an infrared sensor-type camera. It prevents you from just holding up a picture of a face (already tried). It's extremely accurate and works well. I have a surfacebook pro 4 for work, and I have to admit, very nifty feature..

Windows 10 is simply a tolerable version of Windows 8 which was terrible.

That's definitely a matter of opinion. I think Windows 10 is leaps and bounds better than windows 7 and 8 for that matter. Everyone I work with agrees and many (if not most) reviewers also agree Windows 10 is a huge step forward. You need to look beyond just the start menu change.

I can agree that maximizing is more consistent in Windows. In OS X double-clicking on the title bar (or alt/option-clicking the + button, depending on how things are set up) does zoom the window to the entire screen most of the time in most apps, but not always. Sometimes it ”zooms to fit” like in Safari and Finder. This doesn't always work consistently depending on what is viewed within the window, so I think I agree Windows handles this a bit better. That being said, I rarely see the need to zoom a window to fit the entire screen. For most Windows users, this is often first thing they do when they open up an app – double click to mazimize. Why? There's most often not a point in running a web browser maximised on a widescreen display you will just get blank sides with no content.

Not to mention how awesome Windows snap is. I have to admit, I love my mac, everything about it. But windows snap is such a useful feature it drives me nuts that Apple doesn't do something like that. I know they do split on fullscreen, but it takes on average 10 seconds to do so and way too many steps–make window fullscreen, wait for animation; swipe for mission control, drag another window to the new fullscreen window. Wait until the animation finishes. Swipe to go to the new space. With windows, it's drag title bar to side, click next window, done. Less than 2 seconds. You can also resize one window and the other resizes it–I know mac snap windows do the same. Unsnap the window and it takes back it's original size.

I know there are thirdparty components to do that on a mac, but they are unfinished. You can't resize windows after they are snapped and have the other half resize with it.

Definitely A+ for that in Win10 for sure. Well designed and works extremely well.

 

[Tech198]

hah the bug chicks... good name.

so, this means u buy a PC u can actually find more bugs by learning more ? Maybie MS needs to know when u learn, u learn by the internet, not only by apps.... -1

MS must really want Apple do go with a hybrid touchscreen, but anytime a company takes control, u know there are always gonna be those who still want it....

I'll have to give MS win on the bio-metric..... but what if u don't wanna use it ?

Not all drivers work on windows 10,,,, neither does OS X 10.11 either, so both have their own problems.

The real issues, are things like both companies implement stuff, but can never rely on it all the time.... TouchID is an exception (unless u brick your device)

 

[aloshka]

I'll have to give MS win on the bio-metric..... but what if u don't wanna use it ?

Well you don't have to. You can disable and use password, pin, or picture passwords.

 

[nickmcpherson97]

The myth when I was at school was the blue side erases ink. It didn't. Instead it just tore the paper up so bad I'd have to start the whole thing again!

EXACTLY!!

 

[cylack]

I have never once thought “It’d be nice to have touchscreen on my Mac”. I love OS X and would never even think about switching to Windows.

 

[cclloyd]

I don't want to touch my laptop screen. I'm actually a bit obsessive about seeing dust and fingerprints on it. That feature doesn't appeal to me at all.

That and the touchscreen takes anywhere from 5-10% of your CPU most of the time. I disabled the driver on the touchscreens in my house because their computers run a bit better, have much longer battery, and their screens stay clean.

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

"...The first ad introduces The Bug Chicks, who are identified as "real people paid for real opinions," and focuses on how PCs allow them to teach kids about insects using PowerPoint and other Windows 10 apps and features…"

You had me up until PowerPoint, Microsoft.

Keynote or Prezi FTW!

And nothing you couldn't do with a touch pad...

 

[AppleScruff1]

I have never once thought “It’d be nice to have touchscreen on my Mac”. I love OS X and would never even think about switching to Windows.

But when OSX goes touch, it will be great.

 

[QquegChristian]

I don't understand how anyone can defend Apple's lack of touchscreens at this point. You can't applaud it as the best form of input for mobile and tablets while also seeing absolutely no benefit on a laptop. Architecture aside, every single app for the iPad would be possible (for the developers to make) on a touchscreen laptop. If none of the apps you use on an iPad would be convenient to have on your laptop, then color me confused. At this point, Apple has done an amazing job training us all to manipulate things on screen with our fingers. There are times it will always feel more natural, such as manipulating photos (or simply pinching to zoom in general).

Does it make sense to reach your hand up and over the keyboard to touch the giant screen? Not the majority of the time. But it is no stranger than me having to twist my wrist and reach my other hand over to interact with my tiny Apple Watch screen.

There is nothing wrong with options. The OS doesn't have to be rebuilt. There doesn't need to be tablet-only Macs that would require an OS redesign. I'd love voice commands to work system-wide on my Apple Watch, but I've got to use all kinds of other inputs 90% of the time.

Apple can't hold out much longer in my mind. Whether it is a perfectly elegant experience or not, they make glossy screened Macs that share their design language and they've trained the masses that those types of screens can be touched. They created the expectations. Just because they are gaining market share, that doesn't mean they couldn't be gaining more. The showroom experience of a touchscreen is a powerful thing precisely because people like it, whether they've thought through how practical it will be or not.

There are two iPhones, two Apple Watches, an Apple TV, and two Surface Pro 4s in my house. I use the touchscreen and pen on the Surface almost exclusively when I am at home. Don't even have it in tablet mode. There's always a lot of talk about the UI of a full OS not being touch-friendly... But the UI of iOS is full of tiny targets! Just because there are less targets on the screen, it doesn't mean they aren't tiny. That all being said, it is the pen and full Adobe suite that have me on Surface. I couldn't imagine a laptop without some sort of convertabilty and pen input at this point. Same way I couldn't imagine switching from iPhone to Windows Phone (gross).

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

Okay, allow me to tell you what Windows 10 does, as a full time user:

#1 Fails to open images in "Photos" app, nearly 95% of the time (I guess that's "what it DOESN'T do.)

#2 Displays ADVERTISEMENTS (yes, really) on the lock screen (really, really pathetic move.)

#3 Pops up it's little head above the parapet on Windows 7 & Windows 8 PCs, almost bullying you into upgrading to it, and requiring a REGISTRY HACK to disable the nagging (how very professional of you, MS.)

#4 Thinks its "universal apps" are going to automagically propel Windows 10 Mobile platform above its current, pathetic market share.

#5 Has about 97 different versions (yes, again!!) to really simplify the choice for newcomers. >_<

You know, for an everyday OS, it's quite alright - I mean "alright" in the same way that a plain piece of toast with no butter or honey on is alright - it's usable, but ENJOYABLE and fluid? Hahahahaha... erm, no.

Using Mac OS X is like sighing with relief - it has this incredible calming effect, beautiful and peaceful, like oxygen and birds singing when you've just got off the train from a busy city, got onto the local village bus to your English Cotswolds village, jumped off at your street, walked through the front door, made some tea and then sat in the garden on a hot summers day... with birdsong and silence.

Oh, and Microsoft, we're not in the playground any more.


I reckon Microsoft's "strategy" (?!) is the opposite of Apple's, and is: "First! Not best"


PS: I am going back to a Mac as soon as I can afford one. I've had enough of Windows.

My old hand-me-down from my business, in spite of having everything turned off, STILL sleeps at some point in the day.

Oh, and ironies of ironies, it WON'T SHUTDOWN! It goes through the motions, but then the screen goes black, and reboots. Ironically, the same thing it does when I have it reboot...
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But when OSX goes touch, it will be great.

I'm not so sure.

Touch screens are pretty dated, IMO. I'd rather have a 'talented' touch pad, or a funky amazing mouse than a touch screen. I've used touchscreen computers too, and it's been a frustrating and annoying experience.

If it was touchscreen or nothing, I'd choose the later. Seriously. Maybe because I have an iPad? If I want a touchscreen, I'll use my iPad, which ROCKS on the whole 'touchscreen' paradigm. BLOWS OTHERS OUT OF THE WATER, AND KNOWN GALAXY!

 

[uid15]

My old hand-me-down from my business, in spite of having everything turned off, STILL sleeps at some point in the day.

Oh, and ironies of ironies, it WON'T SHUTDOWN! It goes through the motions, but then the screen goes black, and reboots. Ironically, the same thing it does when I have it reboot...
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I'm not so sure.

Touch screens are pretty dated, IMO. I'd rather have a 'talented' touch pad, or a funky amazing mouse than a touch screen. I've used touchscreen computers too, and it's been a frustrating and annoying experience.

If it was touchscreen or nothing, I'd choose the later. Seriously...

Microsoft are gonna flop soon, they're just so awful and uninspiring in how they kludge opposing things together to form a mangled mess (have you seen Windows 10 Phone? Wow, it's been in "preview" for many, many months, and even the basics like hitting a touch target are SO badly broken - I tap a photo to select it, and it selects ANOTHER photo on ANOTHER row/column.... WHAT THE?! ... what an embarrassing company they are.)

No passion or emotion is involved in Microsoft product evolution, just a whole sticky mess of misunderstanding and failing to hit the targets they set themselves. Doughballs.

PS: Oh, and their TERRIBLE naming of products and making 57 varieties of them... wow...

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

Funny thought.

On the 'do more' than Macs.

Personally, all of my Windows systems are now running BOINC and the SETI@home program. I check on them occasionally, but they run that program 24x7x365.

They are 'doing more', but other than occasionally surfing questionable websites, they just churn SETI all day...

Yeah, I guess they do 'do more', but I actually use my Mac systems a lot more, thanks...
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Microsoft are gonna flop soon, they're just so awful and uninspiring in how they kludge opposing things together to form a mangled mess (have you seen Windows 10 Phone? Wow, it's been in "preview" for many, many months, and even the basics like hitting a touch target are SO badly broken - I tap a photo to select it, and it selects ANOTHER photo on ANOTHER row/column.... WHAT THE?! ... what an embarrassing company they are.)

No passion or emotion is involved in Microsoft product evolution, just a whole sticky mess of misunderstanding and failing to hit the targets they set themselves. Doughballs.

Possibly crossing the line on this thread, but it seems to me that everyone thought that Trump would immolate by now, and not make it this far, just like Microsoft. If I had a penny for everyone prophesying the end of Microsoft. I'D own the world...

Microsoft is there for the 'authoritarians'. The ones that require the drama and regimentation that Windows demands. The bugs, the limits, the drama, the temperamental breakdowns, the crashes, the unfulfilled promises, the fear that the next 'update' will lobotomize Windows 10 like they did to Windows 7 to make 8...

 

[MacBH928]

1) I can't believe they pay a lot of money for marketing agencies to come up with this. I am pretty sure I can make a middle-school competition and some kid will come up with a better idea for an ad.

2)Unless we are in the 80's, why is Microsoft targeting Apple products? Microsoft already has 85% or so of the market share. Are you really bothered by the 15% non Windows computers?

 

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[rafrafdesign]

In what way is OS X ”less functional”? I'm genuinely curios. Can you give an example or two?
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I don't use Windows 10 very often, but it happens. Care to share what it is you've found?

A few things that I like on Windows 10:
-One great shortcut is Win+ < or > if you use two monitors, or a Cintiq and one monitor.
-Cortana is pretty useful, using the calendar, the ability to say "Ok certain,..." it has been working better than Siri for me.
-Some transfer files from one place to another is great.
-To be able to put Dropbox on a different hard drive, not just the root one.
-Touch screen on the Surface Pro. Through my workflow I need to leave notes on PDF. I just like to draw or sketch on the screen (On the mac, I would print the pdf page and put note with a pencil).

...but I miss the "Hide others" on the Mac. Even so on Windows you can grab the top of any windows and shake it and it would do something similar.

 

[Designer Dale]

It doesn't matter what its name is, my planet is only for people who is able to take choices being rational, and not following the rules and commands from a brand without even trying the others. I think you wouldn't fit with us.

A man chooses, a slave obeys.

Thank you for asking!

And Chicks use Win 10...

Dale

 

[thasan]

They don't do this though right?
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Or this;
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Can't see clearly as I am using my phone. Are those something from OS X? Been using OS X for 5 plus years but I got to say that I have never seen this.
The only thing that crashes in my MacBook Pro is Microsoft office. Now that's something Microsoft excels at!
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So what? Have a look here, I assure you there will be plenty of posters that have had multiple panics on Apple machines in less than a day.

Personal experiences matter. My whole team uses Mac. None of them have problems. Probably we are all 'lucky'
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How well does the face unlock work because my sister had an android with face unlock and i just held a picture of her from my phone to her phone and it unlocked.

That's usually the level of security ms has. Allows their buddy Federal bureau of incompetence 'specialists' to 'hack' into the Windows 10 pcs of law abiding citizens

 

[emm386]

Of course they do. They crash, get viruses, and have the most obnoxious notification system on earth.

My mac doesn't do any of that :/

Your Mac doesn't crash? What are you running - Snow Leopard??

 

[0958400]

How suitable, talking about "bugs" in a Microsoft commercial.

 

[Freeks]

"My mac don't have touchscreen"

Sad but true. Believe or not, it's 2016 and we are not getting touchscreen mac. We don't even get touchscreen support to OSX as some exec's wants us to buy multiple devices to do simple things.

I'm not only one who is thinking of The Switch. Let's see after next WWDC.
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I'm not so sure.

Touch screens are pretty dated, IMO. I'd rather have a 'talented' touch pad, or a funky amazing mouse than a touch screen. I've used touchscreen computers too, and it's been a frustrating and annoying experience.

If it was touchscreen or nothing, I'd choose the later. Seriously. Maybe because I have an iPad? If I want a touchscreen, I'll use my iPad, which ROCKS on the whole 'touchscreen' paradigm. BLOWS OTHERS OUT OF THE WATER, AND KNOWN GALAXY!

Multitouch. You can't replicate that with keyboard and mouse. Not even with MagicTrackpad. If you don't use any apps that would benefit from multitouch then it's fine. I use mostly those apps: Logic Pro, Photoshop, Final Cut, Ableton Live, Cinema 4D.

All those programs will go to next level when we get full multitouch support. No, you can't do that with iPad.

 

[ApplePu]

I've been using Macs forever, I guess my first was back in 1993, a good old Performa 475.

After all these years, I'm seriously considering switching to Windows for the first time. Macs have just become uninspired in the last few years. Apple stopped innovating and is just reacting to trends (with a huge delay) instead of setting them. They first explain why something is wrong and won't work just to introduce the exact same things a few years later, trying to sell them as their innovations. Examples:

-small laptops and netbooks - 11" MacBook Air
-Input with pens - Apple Pencil
-Large phones - iPhone 6+
-MS Surface RT - iPad Pro

Next we will see: Macs with Touchscreen. I can already hear Ivy in the promo: "It just feels so beautiful and......natural.....to interact with a device in such an intimate way" blablabla, the usual apple porn clips.

Therefore, I probably will switch. I think devices like the Yoga, x360 or Surface are pretty great. You can use them in tent mode together with a desktop screen, as a tablet on the couch or to work when you're on the go.

 

[NATO]

I have been a huge Mac fan/user years ago but in recent years I've found myself drifting back towards Windows since Windows 8, and now Windows 10 which I think is a fantastic operating system and definitely very innovative. OS X in comparison has felt like it's getting quite stale.

Hardware-wise I would never have considered anything BUT a Mac (even if I wanted to dual-boot it with Windows) simply because Apple laptops are amazingly well built and of a high quality.

However, since I got a Surface Pro 3 as a developer device, I have to say I'm very taken by having a touchscreen interface and as such after buying a MacBook Pro, I returned it and bought the new Microsoft Surface Book which I genuinely believe is the best laptop I have ever had the fortune to use. It's as well built as a MacBook but has the awesome Windows Hello login cameras, the detachable screen with touchscreen and pen/inking functionality. Absolutely amazing.

I definitely think Apple really needs to re-think their laptop strategy as I really do feel the MacBook line is going to end up looking quite stale otherwise in the face of what is welcome innovation in the PC space.

 

[lowendlinux]

I am puzzled. Does Microsoft consider Macs as a dangerous competitor? You know, Macs were like 10% of total PC sales.

It's the ecosystem they're after not just the PC's

Speaking of which: Apple ****ed up hugely just recently with a "silent update" which broke Ethernet connections! Huge epic fail, Apple!

Windows 10 definitively doesn't do that!
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You mean.... the current Mac kernel panic, triggered by the Firewall (due to Spotify sending network packets)?

Windows doesn't do this (kernel panic triggered by userland applications!). Apple ****ed up big here as well!

Apple doesn't separate userland as distinctly anymore.

It is weird someone would use such anti-intuitive OS as Windows with awesome alternatives like the Mac. Even more, Mac OS X is free for everyone. Clearly, it is inertia (as was with DOS vs Mac). Once you try Mac, you never go back!

Perhaps some folks don't find OSX intuitive, perhaps they want the same environment at home they have at work?

It's unbelievable the amount of ignorance most people have in this thread. I was hoping to come here and read legitimate and solid criticism based on real, solid facts.

Windows allows you to do so much more than OS X because it is open-source and friendly to developers. The real world runs on Windows, not OS X. OS X is just a more aesthetically pleasing and less functional Windows. Sure, it may not be as efficient or as stable as OS X, but it's clearly the better platform for pretty much everything.

It's true. Take it like it is and accept it.

Windows is NOT open source, and the real work runs on Linux your desktop if it's still independent may run Windows but the future is likely clients that boot Windows in a container running on Linux.

93.3% + 6.7% = 100% Where's Linux in this? I think someone's numbers are a little off here.

it's ~2% so not really worth mentioning.

1) I can't believe they pay a lot of money for marketing agencies to come up with this. I am pretty sure I can make a middle-school competition and some kid will come up with a better idea for an ad.

2)Unless we are in the 80's, why is Microsoft targeting Apple products? Microsoft already has 85% or so of the market share. Are you really bothered by the 15% non Windows computers?

They want the ecosystem.

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Windows 10 is the new hotness everything will be back to normal this time next year.

 

[AlexisV]

Nobody cares if one does more or less than the other. You can't factor in coolness as a feature.

By the way, whoever wrote the cheesy script for the Surface pro TV ad needs to be shipped off to Antarctica and left there. It's teeth curling.

 

[romrp]

I own both Macs and PCs, lot's of them. Mac OS X is fairly superior to Windows 10 in a lot of aspects. There are some good stuff about windows too, it is good to mention. But touch screen for computers is still a no go IMHO. Real life use sucks and I don't know which computer she is using in the videos, but all my i3 touch screen Dell's notebooks do not have that nice touch screen flow. Also, all notebook's touch screens are into flimsy screens and you need to hold the screen to be able to touch it properly. The real strength from the Macs is the BSD/Linux heart on the bottom of it. Oh yeah, and IOS sucks. Sorry for that.