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"Microsoft Says Windows 10 PCs 'Do More' Than Macs in Latest Ads"

Apple made boot camp for a reason.

How well does the face unlock work because my sister had an android with face unlock and i just held a picture of her from my phone to her phone and it unlocked.

It works as well as Android, however you can set it up to require movement. In Android it is blinking and in Windows 10 it is tilting your head.
 
Hi I can tell you what I found in the few minutes I used OS X (I'm thinking about buying mac), I guess I could find more with more time.

1. The whole, maximice, minimice, multitask window it's much better optimiced and it's easier to do on Windows.
As someone who's career is managing an enterprise Windows infrastructure from a Mac (with a Windows VM sometimes, ha), I'm in both OSs regularly.

You should find OS X's no-nonsense keyboard shortcuts. The main ones are pretty easy to remember because they map out.

Quit the app you're in? Command-Q.
Minimize the window you're in? Command-M.
Hide the window you're in? Command-H.
Close the window you're in (say, a specific Excel spreadsheet) but leave the app (Excel) running? Command-W.
Quickly do any of these to any app without using a mouse? Command-Tab, tab over to the app, hit the letter.

I like both Windows and OS X. As a guy that's been using Windows since Windows 3.1 (1990s), and OS X since 10.4 (2005), I can tell you that I'm personally more productive in OS X due to the keyboard shortcuts and other multitasking features that have been built in, even though I have a lot less experience with OS X than Windows.
 
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My question is does Cortana work? Siri barely works and most of the other virtual personal assistant apps I have tried barely work. I would like my 27 inch iMac to have a tilt down to flat mode that lets me draw on it with the apple pencil like a Wacom Cintiq. Don't really need touch screen other than to draw with the pencil so multi touch and **** is useless. Since Mac's all have facetime cameras I don't see why we wouldn't have a facial recognition built into the next OSX update. Do PC's even come with built in cameras?

With the quality of the Macbook camera, you could even use a draw of the user and the system will log in lol I think Windows Hello only works with certain kind of web-cam.

Cortana works, and is better than Siri, does a lot more of things and it's more "smart". But this isn't something to be buthurtted like some fanatics here, it's competition and it's a good thing for everybody because next version of Siri will be better.
 
I don't think PC's are superior at all. Windows 10 is simply a tolerable version of Windows 8 which was terrible. The only thing that concerns me is the drifting attention of Apple to keep their computers at Point of Sale upgraded to the cutting edge. The Mac Mini and Mac Pro are ridiculously old in tech years. Every computer should have a refreshed chip every year and a revamp of mobo etc very two. That reduce the tendency of Mac users to wait an indeterminable amount of time to buy a new Mac. If we could trust that Macs are always at the forefront of technology hardware-wise, no one would hesitate when the time comes to buy.
 
Windows 10 PC does more, yes....spying. I am finished with Microsoft on my Personal Computer desktop. They have destroyed any trust I had with them since Windows 10 (and they have backported the same telemetry and more to Windows 7, 8/8.1 without the customer consent). Disgusting.
 
Showing off PowerPoint that's already available on Macs?

Cortana is cool but enough with the [Microsoft] data collection already, no thanks!
 
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I'm still rocking a 2012 MBP. I'm a developer. I'm waiting for the Skylakes to have better options for external displays. Intel has to release the chips first before there's really anything to upgrade. Speed bumps don't really move things forward much anymore.
I'm in the same boat. I did upgrade the wireless card to AC, and I replaced the SSD. It's still going strong.
 
Windows 10 does do more than Mac OS. But in the things that they both do, Mac does it better. I have a Windows 10 machine for gaming, but I do all of my professional work on a Mac because I trust it more.

Though MS Office runs WAY WAY WAY better in my experience on Windows. No surprise there, but I wish the Mac version did work better because I am required to use it...
 
Hi I can tell you what I found in the few minutes I used OS X (I'm thinking about buying mac), I guess I could find more with more time.

1. The whole, maximice, minimice, multitask window it's much better optimiced and it's easier to do on Windows.
2. Yo got right click create document, shortcut, word, txt, etc... vs only folder on mac.
3. Deleting documents it as easier as click "delete" no need to FN combos like mac. Also this will force you to remap keys if you are using windows software on your mac.
4. Cortana vs Spotlight. Again i can just tell cortana to search some files or instance presh only one button to open it a start writing vs FN combo on mac.
5. Like it or not, believe it or not, there are mac virus, and worst, it appears to be one of the less secure systems.

https://asksender.com/apples-ios-os-x-operating-systems-less-secure-microsoft/

Due to my studies, in my classroom there were a lot of Macs, not only find they break too at the end of the last year a few colleagues ask me to take a look at their macs because they were slow, some of them installed antivirus and find several infections. So this no virus is pure myth. Also never had a virus on W10 as long as you don't go to weird webpages or know where to download things.

6. Didn't find anything to show recent files used in APPs, but I think that was my fault.

Edit. of course: 7. Less software compatibility. Allmost all of my colleagues emulated Windows to run software like autocad, and at the end that choice gives them worst performance than just runing the software on a Windows laptop.

// On the other hand I find things better in Mac too, like the multiple-desktop and gestoures trakpad. But I think it will eventually come to windows in future updates.

I wouldn't say "less functional" at the end you do the same more or lees, but for me "less practical" and not so well polished as iOS.


1. I can agree that maximizing is more consistent in Windows. In OS X double-clicking on the title bar (or alt/option-clicking the + button, depending on how things are set up) does zoom the window to the entire screen most of the time in most apps, but not always. Sometimes it ”zooms to fit” like in Safari and Finder. This doesn't always work consistently depending on what is viewed within the window, so I think I agree Windows handles this a bit better. That being said, I rarely see the need to zoom a window to fit the entire screen. For most Windows users, this is often first thing they do when they open up an app – double click to mazimize. Why? There's most often not a point in running a web browser maximised on a widescreen display you will just get blank sides with no content.

2. I think you have to let go of some Windows way of doing things. You can't expect everything to work exatcly as in Windows. Since that function isn't in OS X I have never missed it. :) I mean why not create the document from within the app? Is it that big of a deal?

3. Deleting items in the Finder using ”cmd backspace” is nothing strange once you're used to it. I think it's quite good a thing like that isn't very easy to do so it doesn't happen accidentally. But I do agree that it would be nice if pressing ”delete” in the Finder while having items selected gave dialog ”Are you sure you want to move the selected items to the Trash?”, just like it behaves in Windows. Still, not a major thing I think.

4.
This will come in the next major OS X version it seems, but I think Spotlight works better than search does in Windows 10 (I guess that's the Windows version we're comparing to here?). I also really like that I can look up words in the built in dictionary from Spotlight.

5.
I remember that report. I think it's unfair. Why is it showing all Windows version separately, but OS X and iOS lumped together?

A good comment:

”Article is very biased and misleading, i mean, having iOS in comparison but not Android nor Windows Phone os, and putting Windows by versions but Linux as grouped. That’s some really bad journalism, together with all news portals that shared this article. It says P.R. all over it. Sad to see that it’s getting harder and harder to get proper information on internet, and knowing web space is polluted with misleading and bad informations such as this article.”

It's a myth that there is no malware for OS X (does anyone think that?) but no myth that there's no viruses. There are different kind of classifications for malware, and the ones known that exists for OS X doesn't count as viruses (as far as I know). I can tell you that at the office where I worked as an IT support guy for almost 10 years there's never been any continuously running antivirus software running on the about 100 Macs that has been in use and I can count on my five fingers how many times there has been problems with malware on the Macs. One example was two users that managed to get trojan called Mac Defender, which took me about one minute to manually remove on each computer after reading online how to do it. Good luck doing that on a Windows computer. So… while there are security concerns being an OS X user I'd say there's (still, after all these years) much less problems for the end user when it comes to this compared to being Windows user.


To finish, some good things I like in OS X that I can't find in Windows (let me know if I'm just being ignorant):

-The ability to colour tag files in the Finder

-The ability to search after a menu item in an app using the Help menu's Search filed.

-Being able to press Space to preview many files and items (Quick Look).

-Being able to calculate folder sizes of all folders in one window in the Finder and sort them after size in list view.

-Just seeing the running apps when using ”cmd tab” makes it easier to find the app I want when I have many apps (and open windows) running. Can be quite messy in Windows when a lot is open. But I do like what they've done with ”alt tab” and ”Task Overview” in Windows 10. Still prefer OS X when it comes to this.

-Ability to add or edit the keyboard shortcut for any meny item (System Preferences > Keyboard > Shortcuts).

-Preferences are in almost all apps found in the app menu (shortcut ”cmd ,”). Not so in Windows, where it can be in different named menus, and called ”Tools” or ”Settings” or ”Preferences” etc. More inconsistent.

-The ability to drag an item or a folder from the Finder to an Open/Save dialog in an app to make the dialog go to that location (try it and you'll see what I mean).

-Drag and drop seems to work in more places…

…and so on.

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One really awesome thing I found out the other day was how quick it can be to restore a disk image (clone) created from a clean install of OS X despite the size of a newly installed OS X ”El Capitan” 10.11.3 being more than 9 GB in size it can be restored to an empty and formated drive in about three minutes, and this is even without involving SSDs. This is because ”sectors” is copied (using something called ASR – Apple Software Restore) and not the actual files.

More about that here:
https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man8/asr.8.html

Can that be done in Windows? All images restoring I've seen in Windows takes ages. But maybe there's some quick way I don't know if? Which reminds me of that it takes ages to do Windows Updates in Windows 7 (which is still used at work). Good this is improved in Windows 8/10.
 
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I'm using a Logitech mouse with my Mini, and they make a trackpad too. And this wireless keyboard/track-pad combo is great. So I guess not.

I'm sure those work great; but what if you tried this mouse instead? Or this keyboard? And it didn't work right? Would OSX be garbage? Would Apple be responsible for it? NO! they would say; use the track pad and keyboard that is built in to your MacBook, and it will work just fine. (and they will)

The issue is that on a windows PC there are dozens to hundreds of hardware manufacturers that may-or-may-not have any good drivers, or be made with any quality. This is just the reality of the PC world; But it isn't 100% Microsoft's fault, nor is there much they could do about it.


there are pluses and minuses you have to consider:
On the plus end PC's can get nearly any sort of hardware you could dream of: 6-axis robotics controller boards, 16 channel QAM tuners/decoders, etc... (friend built his own CNC mill using a windows PC as the brains)

On the minus end, you have to deal with all of this varying hardware from varying manufacturers of varying quality.
 
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So, my mother in law updated her Vista PC to a Windows 10 PC.

After rummaging around and finding her data.... yeah sorry Windows 10 does not have a migration assistance to transfer you data/applications from an old PC to the new one. So it was pull the HD out of the case, and stick into a USB caddy.

So, the first thing we found is that "Mail" has no import function, the way you have to do it is use an IMAP/Exchange server, but if you have LOTS of mail (I have about 3GB) you are in for a very long slow ride of breaking the email into chunks, uploading it to the server, creating a local folder , download the mail into that local folder, deleting it from you inbox and rinse and repeat fro the rest of you mail.

WOW, a modern OS and Apps...what ****

So, any way, the contacts, managed to get them over. HOWEVER, not only do you have Contacts you have "People"
These things are basically the same idea, they just can't exchange data and you again, can not import data, except through a MS mail server. So if you were a Gmail user.... Microsoft welcomes you with open arms.

Again WTF ?

Migration assistant appeared in OSX 10.3 well over 10 years ago.

Setting up the photos side and getting the camera hooked up was acceptable.

But as for windows 10, um no thanks.
 
@star-affinity wow that was a really complete and helpfull answer and I really appreciate it! That's the kind of answer I expect in a forum.

I guess it's a matter of getting used to it or know how to do things, but overall the first impression was that. Anyway my point was that I didn't find it less usable as the other user said, just things and some workflows that could be definetly better.

Point 1 the real problem is for multitasking I sometimes work with 3 APPs, main on one side, and two 2 on the other, and it's as simple as drag the app to the corner I want in, OS X only allow 2 and it's more tricky.

Point 2, I agree, in deed I had Note bloq and word pined to my task bar and sometimes I start from there, but others just create them in desktop to avoid losing time in the the save as, or save in directory later. Not a big deal

Point 5, didn't know that, then yes it's unffair. But I also think the virus doom of windows is also unffair, and it's generally an opinion that comes froms users that click on all the trap Pop-Ups that appears on internet or download things from not trustable sites. Troyans, hackers doing remote access or malware slowing your computer, I think it doesn't matter what OS you have, there is nothing 100% secure.

About the other things, there is no color or even tags, only thing similar is quick access. There is no quick look, and it will be very useful for some files as certain kind of RAW pictures or PS files! Not sure about the others.

Thank you again for your answer!
 
I don't think PC's are superior at all. Windows 10 is simply a tolerable version of Windows 8 which was terrible. The only thing that concerns me is the drifting attention of Apple to keep their computers at Point of Sale upgraded to the cutting edge. The Mac Mini and Mac Pro are ridiculously old in tech years. Every computer should have a refreshed chip every year and a revamp of mobo etc very two. That reduce the tendency of Mac users to wait an indeterminable amount of time to buy a new Mac. If we could trust that Macs are always at the forefront of technology hardware-wise, no one would hesitate when the time comes to buy.
Well, most Mac's are a few $ more than your iPhone - so that could be one of the reasons why a lot of Mac users aren't upgrading as often.
My 2008 MacBook Pro still runs great (replaced the existing drive with an SSD last year) - also did so to my 2012 mac mini (which is my HTPC - and primary source for surfing at the moment). People should actually be proud that they can get 5+ years out of a MacBook, as opposed to needing to swap out their Windows laptop ever 2-3 years.
Now, I've heard the leadership at Microsoft has been bucking the trend - trying to make Windows leaner as opposed to making it more bloated with each release. They certainly have lots of opportunity to trim things. (and anyone who has been in the windows camp knows that the two development teams - you "leap frog" major releases, as the Vista/Windows7 team just tends to produce a lot of steaming piles of....).
The stability of OS X is something that Microsoft has been envious of for many years. They've lost much of the server market to Linux (surprised they're still even in the market by this point actually).
Me, I think they should have new Mac hardware every other year. That gives people more than enough upgrade options without waiting too long.
 
As a side Windows user - 10 rtm was worse in reliability than Vista on my test machine. Went back to W7.

OSX still way better imo.
 
I am celebrating 11 years without having to deal with malware, viruses, security issues. It's easily the best thing about a Mac. No ********! Sure the hardware is underpowerd, and the graphics cards SUCK! But the OS is optimised for it, and the computer just runs, and runs, and runs and runs.
 
I don't think PC's are superior at all. Windows 10 is simply a tolerable version of Windows 8 which was terrible. The only thing that concerns me is the drifting attention of Apple to keep their computers at Point of Sale upgraded to the cutting edge. The Mac Mini and Mac Pro are ridiculously old in tech years. Every computer should have a refreshed chip every year and a revamp of mobo etc very two. That reduce the tendency of Mac users to wait an indeterminable amount of time to buy a new Mac. If we could trust that Macs are always at the forefront of technology hardware-wise, no one would hesitate when the time comes to buy.

But think of all that innovation to make the Mac Pro round. That doesn't happen overnight. :p
 
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Windows 10 is great. It is the machines that run it that I don't like. Probably next generation Dell XPS or Lenovo ThinkPad will become my primary machine. But for now the rMBP 15" it is!
 
Terrible ads. At least hire some attractive people if you want to sell a product. Having average looking people won't cut it. I know that sounds vain, but look at all other product ads, they always have good looking people. Or maybe, the good looking people didn't want to be associated with MS products.
To be vain you would have to exhibit the trait. Pretty clear you don't so vain doesn't apply, but other adjectives would. ;)
 



Microsoft has shared a new series of ads called The Bug Chicks that promote what it believes are advantages of Windows 10 PCs over Macs. Each ad has the tagline "Windows 10 PCs do more. Just like you."

The first ad introduces The Bug Chicks, who are identified as "real people paid for real opinions," and focuses on how PCs allow them to teach kids about insects using PowerPoint and other Windows 10 apps and features.


The other three ads highlight individual Windows 10 PC features, including Cortana, Inking, and Hello. Each 15-second spot deliberately mentions how "even the new Macs don't have that" or "Mac doesn't have a touchscreen."


"Windows 10 and Cortana" demonstrates how Microsoft's personal voice assistant can be used on the desktop to find any file by simply asking. The advantage will be short-lived, however, as Siri is reportedly coming to OS X 10.12 later this year.


"Windows 10 and Inking" shows how select Windows 10 PCs have touchscreens that allow you to write and sketch directly on the screen, unlike Macs. Meanwhile, Apple has previously admitted it has no plans to release a touchscreen Mac.

"Windows 10 and Hello" shows one of the ladies unlocking her PC with facial recognition, using the front-facing camera, with no password required. The biometric feature works with your face, fingerprint, or iris on select PCs.

The latest data from market research firm Gartner revealed that worldwide PC shipments from Lenovo, HP, Dell, Asus, and Acer continued to decline in the fourth quarter. Apple was the sole manufacturer that saw positive shipment growth in the quarter, based on sales of 5.7 million Macs.

Most of Apple's Mac lineup is due for a hardware refresh this year with Intel's Skylake chips, Thunderbolt 3 with USB-C, and possibly new form factors. The new Macs could be announced at WWDC in June or at a media event later this fall, although updates could also be announced via press release at any time.

Article Link: Microsoft Says Windows 10 PCs 'Do More' Than Macs in Latest Ads


I think this has the opposite effect on me... I cringed watching that ad...
 
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