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Microsoft's "I'm a PC" Ad Airs
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Haha, I thought for a minute that you were Will Smith.
I mean, let's think about the evidence we have here.
Your avatar is a Alien. Will Smith played in Men and Black.
That quote above can be seen in his movie, Hitch.
And the biggest of them all, your user name being MrSmith.
Just observations.
actually the laptops that control the space station all run XP
dont believe me? go watch the HDNET special HD broadcast live from the space station, they show one of them and how it works
I remember reading somewhere that there are something like 80 laptops onboard the International Space Station... So I guess you are never far from a good game of solitaire...
Actually...
PS3 is a good piece of hardware. There are some good PS3 exclusive games out and some coming up, it plays Blu-Ray, PSN is getting better all the time. I had an Xbox360, it broke and I wasn't in a gaming phase so I never got it fixed. Just got a PS3 and I've enjoyed it more in a month than I ever enjoyed my Xbox. In the next year I think the PS3 will inch ahead.
Not really THAT clear cut.
It is very clear cut if you look at sales and attach-rates. But you're right, it's not entirely bad, there are like 4 good PS3 games.
PSN is getting better but still light years away from Xbox Live, and with all the new announcements (streaming Netflix movies, picture sharing and movie watching with your online friends, 100 player online games, etc.) the gap is just getting wider.
Blue-Ray is really irrelevant to the conversation, as it doesn't bring anything to the table that a standalone player can't, and all it did was make the whole thing initially cost $600 which basically ruined any chance Sony had of winning the console battle. Hence the sacking of the president of Sony's video game division.
Odd that you quoted the Apple part of my post and replied with Sony stuff though.
I can make more stereotypes than thou
Apple ads takes a guy and makes him a stereotype because he uses a PC ...
So Microsoft takes over a whole segment of the world population and turns them into stereotypes ... Nice!
I´m waiting for the YouTube Linux 'ads' ...
Apple ads takes a guy and makes him a stereotype because he uses a PC ...
So Microsoft takes over a whole segment of the world population and turns them into stereotypes ... Nice!
I´m waiting for the YouTube Linux 'ads' ...
Apple ads takes a guy and makes him a stereotype because he uses a PC ...
So Microsoft takes over a whole segment of the world population and turns them into stereotypes ... Nice!
That makes absolutely no sense.
And soon you will not remember this.
HAHA!
Very nice.
I'm now looking over my shoulder though.
All my windows are open due to the power being out from Hurricane ike.
I'm a scardie cat.
You fanbois have to admit this is a pretty cool commercial..
Much better than the douchebag guy Apple uses to represent Mac.
Seriously.. The Apple ads are starting to get real old...
Let's not forget that annoying metro guy who gives the Iphone tutorial.. ***** hiim too.
Much better than the douchebag guy Apple uses to represent Mac.
Seriously.. The Apple ads are starting to get real old...
Let's not forget that annoying metro guy who gives the Iphone tutorial.. ***** hiim too.
Making sense
I agree with you. The problem is that my English is not good enough. All adverts are full of cliches and stereotypes, it's the nature of the medium(sp?).
In Spanish we have a saying:
"Mal de muchos, consuelo de tontos"
Something like: "Only the fools get consolation from the fact that evil is upon a lot of people".
To me this ad does to things:
Microsoft tacitly assumes it is a 'PC' (whatever it may mean, I had never used that term since the early 90s until I got OS X ...), Microsoft says: "We are legion. So what?"
PS: The evil in case is having to use a stress producing OS (in case that did not make sense to you ).
I agree with you. The problem is that my English is not good enough. All adverts are full of cliches and stereotypes, it's the nature of the medium(sp?).
In Spanish we have a saying:
"Mal de muchos, consuelo de tontos"
Something like: "Only the fools get consolation from the fact that evil is upon a lot of people".
To me this ad does to things:
Microsoft tacitly assumes it is a 'PC' (whatever it may mean, I had never used that term since the early 90s until I got OS X ...), Microsoft says: "We are legion. So what?"
PS: The evil in case is having to use a stress producing OS (in case that did not make sense to you
).I agree with you. The problem is that my English is not good enough. All adverts are full of cliches and stereotypes, it's the nature of the medium(sp?).
In Spanish we have a saying:
"Mal de muchos, consuelo de tontos"
Something like: "Only the fools get consolation from the fact that evil is upon a lot of people".
To me this ad does to things:
Microsoft tacitly assumes it is a 'PC' (whatever it may mean, I had never used that term since the early 90s until I got OS X ...), Microsoft says: "We are legion. So what?"
PS: The evil in case is having to use a stress producing OS (in case that did not make sense to you
De haber empezado por ahí, yo también hablo español! ;-)
Microsoft is not assuming "it" is a PC. Microsoft is countering the stereotype that PC's are for dorks, which Apple is trying to perpetuate by dressing the PC character as a nerd. Elitism/snobbyness at its best. The message in the ads is clearly not "look at how many people use PCs" but "look at the kinds of people who use PCs." BIG difference.
Windows is not a stress producing OS any more than OS X is. Both have frustrating features, and cool features, strenghts and weaknesses, and each has revolutionized computing in different ways. To try to make any one of them more "evil" than the other is chlidish.
Microsoft is boring me again with their self-congratulatory back-patting baloney.
Look deep enough at these ads and you'll see Balmers 'screw you Apple - our customers are dumb enough not to even try your products' philosophy beaming out at you.
I bet even the Ad agency making them is bored - I can guarantee it's certainly not a cause they believe in.
That's the entire point though isn't it ;
Microsoft locked 90% of the planet into 2nd best during the 90's when there was no other choice - all these ads do is confirm how a lot of smart people have recently become complacent in the choice of their technology platform now that there is a better alternative. Maybe their funding regulators won't let them choose?
Who knows - where MS is concerned choice is rarely an option.
How can you root for that ?
Look deep enough at these ads and you'll see Balmers 'screw you Apple - our customers are dumb enough not to even try your products' philosophy beaming out at you.
I bet even the Ad agency making them is bored - I can guarantee it's certainly not a cause they believe in.
That's the entire point though isn't it ;
Microsoft locked 90% of the planet into 2nd best during the 90's when there was no other choice - all these ads do is confirm how a lot of smart people have recently become complacent in the choice of their technology platform now that there is a better alternative. Maybe their funding regulators won't let them choose?
Who knows - where MS is concerned choice is rarely an option.
How can you root for that ?
What a big zealot. Right, it's SO CLEAR in the ads that Ballmer is just telling everyone how dumb their customers are. Just like Jobs is CLEARLY telling the world "Mac users are gullible idiots with an empty life who need to be told they're cool and fit in to feel special." Duh.
Choice is rarely an option with MS? ROTFL never heard anything so stupid in my life. Just look at Apple's terms of service for OS X. You're not allowed to install it anywhere that's not a Mac! Furthermore, they specifically CRIPPLE their OS to NOT enable someone who BUYS it to run it wherever they want! iPod working with other choices than iTunes? Nope. iPhone apps? Steve gets to arbitrarily pick which ones go into the store and which ones don't. Customize the OS X UI? Hardly, they want to own the experience and not give you choice. Apple is all about force feeding you the choices THEY make. While that's not necessarily a bad thing, to say that Apple is the one giving you choice is being blinded by your zealotry. MS runs on any hardware, gives you 1,000 more choices of peripherals and software because of their developer focus, and has based its entire business model on providing platforms for other people to build upon, as opposed to strictly managing the entire experience and giving the user no choice but to blindly follow Steve and his whims.
Apple blocks competitive products from iPhone App Store--surprised?
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13846_3-10041187-62.html
It's called 'standards of excellence' - sometimes the purest sh*t has to be kept outside the product portfolio for the better good.
However,
Interesting choice of words ;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zealot
I espcially love this sentence ;
"The Zealots were a Jewish political movement in the 1st century which sought to incite the people of Iudaea Province to rebel against the Roman Empire and expel it from the country by force of arms during the Great Jewish Revolt (AD 66-70). When the Romans introduced the imperial cult, the Jews unsuccessfully rebelled."
Oh when should we expect the mighty fist of Balmer to smash us down, Governor Tarkin ? In the name of choice, naturally...
"With little clarity on what constitutes "duplicate functionality", Apple rejected the iPhone podcast client Podcaster on the grounds that "since Podcaster assists in the distribution of podcasts, it duplicates the functionality of the Podcast section of iTunes"."
Oh, right, THOSE standards of excellence! We'll arbitrarily ban anything we want if we feel it threatens our products. It's for the greater good! You sir, are a complete tool. How can anybody ever take you seriously. Go smooch Steve's ass because he's OBVIOUSLY not as evil as the old Microsoft!
Also, if you had half a brain, you would have looked up the definition of zealotry, not the origins of the word!
1. One who is zealous, one who is full of zeal for his own specific beliefs or objectives, usually in the negative sense of being too passionate; a fanatic.
A complete tool - sounds like a Mac product to me. Next insult please...
As for duplicity, I can also assure you that MS will be adopting the exact same 'single store' philosophy when they eventually get round to it for the zune - if they don't I can guarantee it will fail even more miserably than it is already. Really, 50,000 invisible product vendors distributing varying degrees of uncertified 'great to lousy to malware' around the globe on their own websites doesn't really help 'clarify' anyone's purchasing decisions, does it. I think Apple has done a tremendous job of democratising the production and sale of software for the Ipod platform.
They are not perfect by a long way, but they're at least trying to be.
I don't just have half-a-brain - I have a whole brain which is why I posted the origin of the phrase since it specifically, and in my opinion more accurately, relates to your accusation.
I suppose only using half-a-brain I would have just used the dictionary definition since I clearly would be thinking exactly the same way as you...wonderful that we are all so different, isn't it ?
Let me help you with that:
"tool. One who lacks the mental capacity to know he is being used. A fool. A cretin. Characterized by low intelligence and/or self-steem."
Single store? What in the heavens are you talking about? Did you even read the article? It's about banning APPLICATIONS from their store on a whim and without explanations or guidelines, because they fear those apps threaten their own products. In short, MONOPOLISTIC practices. So much for giving the user choices.
Yes, they've done a good job in many things, and a terrible job at others, just like MS has. One of the things Apple is not good at is giving choice to the user, and that's what this argument was about.
"As developer Fraser Speirs writes:
Let's be clear: forbidding "duplication of functionality" is forbidding competition. The point of competition is to do the same thing, but better. Worse, Apple hasn't even said which functionality is off-limits. I'm not arguing about what's legally or morally right in some abstract sense. I'm talking about common sense -- talented developers are looking at what is going on with the App Store and choosing not to write iPhone apps, out of the fear that their efforts will be for naught. If good developers are afraid to write software for your platform, it is a problem."
"by MickBurke September 14, 2008 3:46 PM PDT
Are you kidding? Apple is the worst monopoly in the world, here; buy our devices, give us your money (and sing songs about us) and then we'll control how you may use it. They make decent products, but that's no reason to let them treat you like fools."
Let's be clear: forbidding "duplication of functionality" is forbidding competition. The point of competition is to do the same thing, but better. Worse, Apple hasn't even said which functionality is off-limits. I'm not arguing about what's legally or morally right in some abstract sense. I'm talking about common sense -- talented developers are looking at what is going on with the App Store and choosing not to write iPhone apps, out of the fear that their efforts will be for naught. If good developers are afraid to write software for your platform, it is a problem."
"by MickBurke September 14, 2008 3:46 PM PDT
Are you kidding? Apple is the worst monopoly in the world, here; buy our devices, give us your money (and sing songs about us) and then we'll control how you may use it. They make decent products, but that's no reason to let them treat you like fools."
Originally posted by henrymonroe:
"Windows is not a stress producing OS any more than OS X is"
I picked this out of the MANY inaccurate (to not say downright dumb) things that you have said in your posts.
No one can take you seriously when you say things like this. It is not "Apple fan boys" saying bad things about Vista. It is Vista users. Even Microsoft diehards admit it's a disaster.
In case you forgot, THAT is why Microsoft is spending $300 million on an ad campaign...
"Windows is not a stress producing OS any more than OS X is"
I picked this out of the MANY inaccurate (to not say downright dumb) things that you have said in your posts.
No one can take you seriously when you say things like this. It is not "Apple fan boys" saying bad things about Vista. It is Vista users. Even Microsoft diehards admit it's a disaster.
In case you forgot, THAT is why Microsoft is spending $300 million on an ad campaign...
Yes, I'm certainly glad to be different than you, since you're obviously just a blinded fanboy.
The origin of the word had nothing to do with the way I was using it, but feel free to make up whatever excuses for the lack of common sense you've shown so far, not only with that but also not even understanding the point of the article I posted.
Wrong. Wrong. and Wrong. Thanks for playing. Talk about downright dumb.
I use Vista and I love it as much as I love OS X. And lately OS X has been frustrating me so much more as 10.5 was full of file sharing bugs, and incompatible with my ProTools setup. And guess what? Vista has been problematic because of the industry's slowness to produce drivers, it's not even Microsoft's fault, whereas OS X has become more and more buggy and insecure with every release, which is why now Apple will focus solely on fixing them and improving performance with Snow Leopard.
Sigh blind fanboys. Vista has sold more copies in a few months than Apple has sold Macs in history, and Microsoft has kept breaking revenue records quarter after quarter. Over 50 BILLION dlls. this year, another record. The ad does not even mention Vista! It's not about that AT ALL. It's a response to take back the iconic image of the PC after Apple inundated the airwaves with their attacks on it.
BTW, what does it matter how much the ads cost? How much has the I'm a Mac campaign cost Apple? If it's ten times more, does that mean OS X sucks? You fanboys and your logical fallacies...