Microsoft's "I'm a PC" Ad Airs

[surferfromuk]

Look Henry, I really don't understand you and I'm not sure I want to. Your inviting me to step inside your angry, hate filled world - and I really don't want to.

I sure half-of-what your saying is mostly correct but I can't see past the threatening maniac to really get a clear handle on what you want me to agree with you on - since that's all you really want - capitulation, and a complete obliteration of opposing ideas (mmh, sounds familiar)

I know Apple aren't perfect - I know Apple, like all other solution manufacturing companies in the 20 & 21st centuries ( inc MS) have had to engineer certain proprietary inter-operable components into their platforms to ensure stability and control. I know they have upset some people. Who knows if they end up being no better than MS in 20 years time - I don't know - but right now they are they make the best tools for the job - for the best tools who want to use them and they, unlike MS, have not committed any great indecency against other companies in the name of 'winning at all costs'...

I'm prepared to continue to give them the benefit of the doubt -MS have lost that trust and given their recent behavior in open source world are continuing to act like they always have done.

BTW;

I did this test ;

http://www.quizilla.com/quizzes/7949399/are-you-a-complete-tool

And this is what is said ;

COMPLETLY AWESOME!
For now you are tool-free! please stay that way......for the love of man kind.....we don't need any more tools in this world!

I'm inclined to believe it - I think you should too..

 

[PowerFullMac]

Look at what happened when I commented about the ad on YouTube, the bottom message (by PSPro1337) is me and top one is the reply.

The second picture is my reply to him.

 

[itsmenyc]

Originally posted by henrymonroe:

Wrong. Wrong. and Wrong. Thanks for playing. Talk about downright dumb.

I use Vista and I love it as much as I love OS X. And lately OS X has been frustrating me so much more as 10.5 was full of file sharing bugs, and incompatible with my ProTools setup. And guess what? Vista has been problematic because of the industry's slowness to produce drivers, it's not even Microsoft's fault, whereas OS X has become more and more buggy and insecure with every release.

Sigh blind fanboys. Vista has sold more copies in a few months than Apple has sold Macs in history, and Microsoft has kept breaking revenue records quarter after quarter. Over 50 BILLION dlls. this year, another record. The ad does not even mention Vista! It's not about that AT ALL. It's a response to take back the iconic image of the PC after Apple inundated the airwaves with their attacks on it.

BTW, what does it matter how much the ads cost? How much has the I'm a Mac campaign cost Apple? If it's ten times more, does that mean OS X sucks? You fanboys and your logical fallacies...


I'm sorry but you are downright irrational so it's pointless to debate anything with you. I will say a couple of things though (and let you continue to rant)

I'm not sure what you do for a living (actually given the way you write I'm guessing you are in your early teens) I have friends who are professional computer specialists (who don't want to have anything to do with macs) who absolutely HATE Vista. So much so that they went back to XP. Again these are window users complaining, not mac fanboys.

Your numbers are so off it's not even worth arguing, especially since anyone who buys a new PC gets Vista automatically. They are getting it whether they like it or not. It also does not take into account the number of people and companies who bought new computers with Vista who downgraded to XP. It's ridiculous for you to say that there are not major problems with Vista when even Microsoft itself has admitted as much.

As for your contention that this ad campaign has nothing to do with Vista. You have to be kidding! Even Microsoft acknowledged it, hence the first round with the unconvincing rigged Mojave experiment ads.

Why does it matter how much the ads cost? $300 million is a huge amount of money to spend on an ad campaign and it obviously shows that Microsoft is concerned.

Microsoft has finally gotten out of it's state of denial about it's problems. You might want to do the same.

 

[hellomoto4]

Way better than phase one.
Those first 2 were so dumb.

 

[PowerFullMac]

Microsoft has finally gotten out of it's state of denial about it's problems. You might want to do the same.

No it hasent, its just attempting to cover them up with numerous failing ad campaigns.

 

[henrymonroe]

Look Henry, I really don't understand you and I'm not sure I want to. Your inviting me to step inside your angry, hate filled world - and I really don't want to.

I sure half-of-what your saying is mostly correct but I can't see past the threatening maniac to really get a clear handle on what you want me to agree with you on - since that's all you really want - capitulation, and a complete obliteration of opposing ideas (mmh, sounds familiar)

I know Apple aren't perfect - I know Apple, like all other solution manufacturing companies in the 20 & 21st centuries ( inc MS) have had to engineer certain proprietary inter-operable components into their platforms to ensure stability and control. I know they have upset some people. Who knows if they end up being no better than MS in 20 years time - I don't know - but right now they are they make the best tools for the job - for the best tools who want to use them and they, unlike MS, have not committed any great indecency against other companies in the name of 'winning at all costs'...

I'm prepared to continue to give them the benefit of the doubt -MS have lost that trust and given their recent behavior in open source world are continuing to act like they always have done.

BTW;

I did this test ;

http://www.quizilla.com/quizzes/7949399/are-you-a-complete-tool

And this is what is said ;

COMPLETLY AWESOME!
For now you are tool-free! please stay that way......for the love of man kind.....we don't need any more tools in this world!

I'm inclined to believe it - I think you should too..

LOL spare me the diatribe, will you? You just come across as a pompous snob, just like in Apple's ads.

The fact that you say "they make the best tools for the job" just keeps on showing what a blind irrational zealot you are. That's like saying "a Ferrari is the best tool for the job!" and not a van or a taxi cab or an 18-wheeler. Makes absolutely no sense if you have no context, and even a zealot like you knows there are many jobs at which PCs are just better, and vice-versa.

Apple have committed no indecency against other companies? Wow, you really are out of touch, aren't you?

Konfabulator, Psystar, illegal Stock option backdating, all these devs getting their apps banned because Apple fears honest competition, Proteron? even Adobe! I could go on and on. I know, in your eyes, Apple can do no wrong. How romantic. It's hard to argue with a blinded uninformed irrational fanatic like you, maybe we should just drop it. Funny link BTW.

Konfabulator, Dashboard controversy flows out of WWDC
By Jim Dalrymple jdalrymple@maccentral.com
June 29, 2004 8:35 pm ET

When Apple Computer Inc. CEO Steve Jobs unveiled the company's next generation operating system, Mac OS X Tiger, at the Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) in San Francisco on Monday, many of the new features were met with applause and cheers from the crowd. But one new feature, Dashboard, generated an equal amount controversy for the company as Apple demoed a feature that many onlookers claim share many similarities to a shareware application called Konfabulator.

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They basically killed their product by copying and integrating it into the OS. Sound familiar? It's not the first time they've done it either. But of course, if Apple does it, it's not wrong, and it's probably for the best, because they're such pure sincere loving white little doves. But of course if MS even burps in a similar way as Apple, they're the evil photocopying empire risen from the depths of hell to eat your children.

 

[surferfromuk]

In defense of my zealotry ;

I would not like to see Apple with a 90% world market share - I think that would be tremendously bad in the way it is now with MS.
I would like to see MS give up perhaps another 30 or 40% of it's monopoly to Apple and to Linux - I think that would be tremendously good.
I think we would benefit from seeing a third, perhaps asian, operating system force come into existence.
I don't understand why some people fight so hard to maintain and perpetuate MS 90%+ monopoly position - it's not a healthy position.

Imagine if MS got into financial troubles and were nationalised like Fanny Mae. The US government would instantly own 90% of the worlds operating system market share.

Incredible thought - possible now though, isn't it?

Make of that what you will - read into my zealotry as you call it, as you please.

 

[hal9k]

PC = pissee

PC: I'm a pissee.
Apple: I'm a pisser.

 

[henrymonroe]

In defense of my zealotry ;

I would not like to see Apple with a 90% world market share - I think that would be tremendously bad in the way it is now with MS.
I would like to see MS give up perhaps another 30 or 40% of it's monopoly to Apple and to Linux - I think that would be tremendously good.
I think we would benefit from seeing a third, perhaps asian, operating system force come into existence.
I don't understand why some people fight so hard to maintain and perpetuate MS 90%+ monopoly position - it's not a healthy position.

Imagine if MS got into financial troubles and were nationalised like Fanny Mae. The US government would instantly own 90% of the worlds operating system market share.

Incredible thought - possible now though, isn't it?

Make of that what you will - read into my zealotry as you call it, as you please.

Good points. I can't disagree with those.

 

[sra. Aguirre]

Last time I recalled, Mission control's computers (Houston) use some version of Windows. The Shuttle uses some embedded OS

Guess you are referring to either the Challenger or Columbia mission right?....I heard that after that they switch to some REALLY smart OS (and no....it wasn't OS 9 or OSX.......)

Please! wasn't Bill Gates keynote presentation of 2005 a classic example of "no clue-ness"? On his big night he get's the Screen of Death, not once but several times.......

 

[henrymonroe]

Guess you are referring to either the Challenger or Columbia mission right?....I heard that after that they switch to some REALLY smart OS (and no....it wasn't OS 9 or OSX.......)

Please! wasn't Bill Gates keynote presentation of 2005 a classic example of "no clue-ness"? On his big night he get's the Screen of Death, not once but several times.......

Nope, that wasn't a blue screen, since those have been essentially eradicated from Windows for the last 8 years or so. Just some app that froze. It's happened at Apple keynotes too. I guess that must mean Steve's clueless too, right?

*sigh*

 

[derryquinn]

Nope, that wasn't a blue screen, since those have been essentially eradicated from Windows for the last 8 years or so. Just some app that froze. It's happened at Apple keynotes too. I guess that must mean Steve's clueless too, right?

*sigh*

No they haven't...Vista gave me a blue screen once or twice...

 

[henrymonroe]

No they haven't...Vista gave me a blue screen once or twice...

Yes they have been "essentially" eradicated. They happen about as often as kernel panics in OS X, and similarly, it's usually because of some hardware malfunction so you get a memory dump.

It's not the same thing as "the" in-famous blue screen of death however:

 

[Eidorian]

No they haven't...Vista gave me a blue screen once or twice...

The last time I had a BSOD was in early 2007. I overclocked my iMac's video card a bit too far.

Crappy drivers have given me a few problems in Vista but I can't blame Microsoft for Realtek's slacking. I can blame them for this though.

I haven't used Windows 98 since 2003. Now that brings back memories.

 

[lucasmonger]

So now what?

I would have loved to be a fly on the wall at Apple HQ to see Steve Jobs' reaction. Did he

1. Jump for joy that Microsoft's ad might backfire
2. Brush it off as if he didn't see it
3. Dive into a tirade of anger
4. Fire anyone

So what's with "this is my office?" Certainly the word "office" can relate to Microsoft office, but there wasn't a computer in sight. So if you work in the a cow field, the arctic, in a shark tank, in space, or graffiti-ing an inner-city wall you should buy a PC for the times that you're not in our office?

Then with "I am not alone" I thought it was fitting that it ends with a big bully wrestling some little guy to the ground. Makes Microsoft look like a bully.

So what's Apple's response going to be. I can't wait.

 

[Daim]

nice one, let's the apple adds look stupid and offensive

 

[Derwood]

Yup...

...that there is a couple of good ads.

Great timing as well. They didn't hit out immediately but sat back, soaked up the pressure, gave Apple enough rope, and then... POW!

I bet Justin Long and John Hodgman will soon be looking for other work. I doubt very much that Apple can continue running the "I'm a Mac, I'm a PC" ads.

You remember when they tried to do the same ads in the UK with the two lads from Peep Show and they got quickly pulled because of audience sympathies for PC (Mark - David Mitchell), and because everyone thought that Mac (Jeremy - Robert Webb) was a smug so-and-so. This Microsoft ad makes the American "I'm a Mac..." ads look that way also.

Good ads. Real good.

Derwood

 

[Ubuntu]

Wow... I just don't know how a commercial showing a bunch of random people doing random things... It doesn't show the reaction that people have when they are doing random things and their system craps out on them because they didn't use a 3 layer security approach to getting rid of virus and adware... PC will always fall on these problems, and they will always be a pain in the @$$ because of it. I would like to see Apple come out with a similar ad showing random people doing random things with their PC and getting mad because they pushed the wrong button and installed unwanted crap on their system... Bottom line: Mac is still the best platform out there for people who want a system that just works.

Mmm, and the mac adverts didn't show Finder freezing up when I try to load up iTunes, of course they're not going to show the bad parts.

My point is, they're both adverts that naturally ignore the problems of either OS. Macs still have problems (notice how they've stopped saying that macs don't crash?), and the mac adverts are still kinda random, and unrealistic, at best.
Come to think of it, the mac adverts didn't actually show anything (except the actual computer - one point to Apple). I mean, maybe I'm the one caught in the dark, but I'm pretty sure I've never used a mac that resembles Justin Long.

 

[APPLENEWBIE]

Guess you are referring to either the Challenger or Columbia mission right?....I heard that after that they switch to some REALLY smart OS (and no....it wasn't OS 9 or OSX.......)

Computers had nothing whatever to do with either of those events. Those were caused by a purely mechanical reason (heat). You can't fool mother nature.

 

[FakeWozniak]

Exactly how do these commercials make you go out and buy Windows?

I think the purpose of these advertisements is to stop the exodus over to Apple.

Apple is mocking the computer itself by using anthropomorphism with an actor, not attacking the users. Microsoft is errantly/intentionally trying to make Apple look like they are insulting potential switchers. Sounds like a ploy politicians would use. It's kinda like Vista with lipstick (get it?, vista=pig).

 

[FakeWozniak]

LOL spare me the diatribe, will you? You just come across as a pompous snob, just like in Apple's ads.

LOL Ironic

 

[phoenix78]

The ads are 'good ads' for 'pc'.

I reckon MS missed a great opportunity to advertise Vista. I think its just a little vague in who its trying to represent. The apple ads are very clear its advertising 'apple' and also very clear in pointing out that 'pc' is Vista.

MS should advertise Vista instead of 'retaliating' and making the assumption that people know about the 'get a mac ads'. They are still decent ads though.

 

[liptonlover]

It was a decent ad... I wouldn't say it's anything special, it's not funny, it's... nothing. I'd give it an "average" rating.

 

[MBPgracie]

It really is cringe-worthy, the only thing I can relate it to is watching cavemen trying to use tools for the first time.

But you have to give it to 'them', its about time they got off their ass's and started to do something more productive.

 

[(L)]

Wow microsuck sure is desperate.
That was so bad. They were doing pretty good with the sinefeild and bill commercials. Then they drop this one on us.

Steve Ballmer is obviously behind this decision, it's got his sign of stupidity all over it.

Funny, I thought the opposite. I thought the Seinfeld idea wasn't a great one, and that maybe mismanagement loosened its grip to produce this more straightforward, mildly comical ad. As far as ads go, it's clearly one of the easiest on the eyes and ears. That's all very good. Of course, Windows tends to sell based on perceived necessity whereas Mac is more like the special option, so I don't know if it'll make a huge difference. But I don't think MS is that desperate or anything.