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Microsoft's Windows 8 to Include an App Store Too
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That's what I like about apps in Mac OS X. Most of the program files are in one simple folder.
Apple needs to sue Microsoft for the app store and the mobile platform that mac osx lion has
Im serious all Microsoft does is steal ideas from apple and other successful companies and make it their own
By the way this new windows 8 platform will never meet up to mac OSX
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No you have it all wrong Microsoft steals all of apples ideas such as the GUI that APPLE made not Microsoft. If you use a PC Apple affects how you use it
Im serious all Microsoft does is steal ideas from apple and other successful companies and make it their own
By the way this new windows 8 platform will never meet up to mac OSX
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No you have it all wrong Microsoft steals all of apples ideas such as the GUI that APPLE made not Microsoft. If you use a PC Apple affects how you use it
And the discussion gets even more technical and in depth.
You know that I'm continuously amused and amazed just how many Windows fanboys are signed up on an APPLE site.
Do you really believe Steve Balmer will smack you on the butt or something if you fiercely defend Microsoft or Windows here?
My philosophy is that, it all comes down to preference. I personally prefer the Mac. This doesn't make me right, wrong, good or bad.
No, I personally don't have any accounts on any Microsoft forums. I'm sure that they say some idiotic things about the Mac over there. However I just don't care.
Do you really believe Steve Balmer will smack you on the butt or something if you fiercely defend Microsoft or Windows here?
My philosophy is that, it all comes down to preference. I personally prefer the Mac. This doesn't make me right, wrong, good or bad.
No, I personally don't have any accounts on any Microsoft forums. I'm sure that they say some idiotic things about the Mac over there. However I just don't care.
Why not act like it ? it's the truth after all. I was writing Webapps on a LAMP setup back when the P stood for Perl rather than PHP in the 90s, using Apache 1.x and mod_perl.
Tomcat had a webapps folder back in those days. Microsoft listed .exe files as "Applications" and .dll as "Application Support" in Windows Explorer back in Windows 95.
Visicalc was the "killer app" back in the 80s on the then new Macintosh computers according to the press. The term Application has been around since the dawn of computing. Let's not pretend Apple inventing any there.
I'm just amazed at how much ignorance there is from the Apple crowd towards Microsoft and their products, considering the levels of hate there is against them.
As a very rabid Microsoft hater, I know quite a bit more than I should about their stuff. That way, I can hold a conversation about it and why I don't like it without having to invent stuff and look a fool when called out on it.
It's funny how it takes the Microsoft haters on a APPLE site to correct other Microsoft haters on their lack of facts.
Really people, if you're gonna hate, know about what you're hating. Otherwise you just look like a bunch of blinded zealots.
Welcome to the world of WP7
It's a great world that's getting better all the time.Uggh, I agree with you there. What an awful system. I'll happily spend money with you Microsoft, just not if I have to do algebra* to figure out how much that movie is going to cost me in real terms to rent over Zune.
*exaggeration for effect
/sigh. All statement, no evidence. Care to cough any up?
This is just sad.
1. Where in the T&C does it say this forum is only for Mac users?
2. What part of the normal world dictates that people can't be interested in things other than the things they own? Some of us like tech, and some of us like discussion.
3. What a strange world you live in where everyone is segregated and not allowed to discuss other options in other camps. I bet when you organise parties, all the boys have to sit on a different side of the room to the girls.
I agree, I think Amazon got sued for calling their App Store "AppStore" or something like that
Good point about the widgetcons. By the way, they're already implemented in some level on Symbian^3 and later GUIs. W8's icons are like OSX 10.6 exposé, however they show what really matter. Exposé is most of the time useless in a laptop display. If it showed active applications in form of "widgetcons" would be nicer than just downsize an entire app window.
I really don't want to discuss who invented which feature because I know there is no innocent in this story. Good ideas are simply copied from Apple, Microsoft, Nokia, HP/Palm, GPL projects and so on.
1. This is called MacRumors.
2. The usual discussions are STUPID, BORING and HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR AT LEAST THIRTY YEARS. MacFan: Well PCs are invested with viruses. PCFan: No they aren't, you have be careful. Besides Macs are too expensive. MacFan: Careful at doing what? Nothing? You get what you paid for! PCFan: YOU SUCK! MacFan, NO, YOU SUCK! Yeah, I've seen some real intelligent discussions here.
3. Believe me, I like to keep women real close to me.
Exactly. It's not called "MacRumors but only people who own a Mac are allowed to discuss the rumors.com"
There's a whole lot of people who are interested in the Mac ecosystem since they've become number 1. For folks like me, I like to see how the competition is doing.
It's so silly to close doors to anyone who doesn't buy a Mac. You going to ask for receipts upon sign-up?
2. The usual discussions are STUPID, BORING and HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR AT LEAST THIRTY YEARS. MacFan: Well PCs are invested with viruses. PCFan: No they aren't, you have be careful. Besides Macs are too expensive. MacFan: Careful at doing what? Nothing? You get what you paid for! PCFan: YOU SUCK! MacFan, NO, YOU SUCK! Yeah, I've seen some real intelligent discussions here.
Old discussion. And those people are rightly shot down.
Macs are no longer so expensive. Look at the Air; you've got a whole host of companies STUGGLING to build Ultrabooks at the price-point the Air is selling at.
You've got loads of Android manufacturers releasing competing tablet hardware at higher prices.
Mac has now become popular enough to warrant the attention of scammers and malware writers.
Things change, and so do the discussions.
That was what I was thinking. This is actually an interesting topic, both in terms of how to design the integration with the rest of the OS and the policies around actually running the store compared to Apple's approach. Instead the discussion is about the bloody name! Again! ...And it's not even like the thread degenerated into mud slinging. It never was anything else.
Every time Microsoft, Google, Adobe, HTC, Nokia, or Samsung is mentioned in an article some Pavlovian reflex goes off and the thread is almost nothing but tiny variations over the theme "<insert competiter's name here> suck!".
A topic summary so far:
* Apple invented App Stores. Microsoft suck!
* Apple invented Applications. Microsoft suck!
* If you don't find my love for Apple completely rational and appropriate, you should go to a different site. This forum is for Mac users, and Real Mac Users agree that everything Microsoft does will suck!
* The (as of yet, unreleased) Windows 8 touch GUI sucks, although I haven't tried it.
* Windows 7 sucks, BTW.
The lowest common denominator on MacRumors is really low.
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So that means no one around here can bring up facts about Microsoft, HP, Dell ?
Like you say, the site is called Macrumors, not BashingApple'sCompetition.
2. The usual discussions are STUPID, BORING and HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR AT LEAST THIRTY YEARS. MacFan: Well PCs are invested with viruses. PCFan: No they aren't, you have be careful. Besides Macs are too expensive. MacFan: Careful at doing what? Nothing? You get what you paid for! PCFan: YOU SUCK! MacFan, NO, YOU SUCK! Yeah, I've seen some real “intelligent” discussions here.
So you're saying we should never go above this level of dumb discussion you're portraying by bringing up facts about the competition's product ?
No seriously, do you even have a point ?
As a Mac user, and iOS owner, a big-iron Unix systems administrator with some work experience with Microsoft enterprise solutions in the past, a Linux junky of over a decade, I am not allowed to correct mistakes made or assumptions by other people looking to bash Apple's product because I'm on a site about discussing rumors for Apple products ?
Is that what you're saying ? I shouldn't even be here because I'm not 100% Apple ?
I think you don't need to look farther than your nose to find who is lowering the level of discussion around these parts.
There should be a rule against questioning why others are on this site because they either don't agree with something Apple does or post something positive about Apple's competition. It should be a bannable offense. Seriously, at least the people who I correct are just ignorant of the real nature of what they are bashing. People like you who simply tell others that they don't belong here are quite on another level of offensive. It's almost akin to racism.
That was what I was thinking. This is actually an interesting topic, both in terms of how to design the integration with the rest of the OS and the policies around actually running the store compared to Apple's approach. Instead the discussion is about the bloody name! Again! ...And it's not even like the thread degenerated into mud slinging. It never was anything else.
Every time Microsoft, Google, Adobe, HTC, Nokia, or Samsung is mentioned in an article some Pavlovian reflex goes off and the thread is almost nothing but tiny variations over the theme "<insert competiter's name here> suck!".
A topic summary so far:
* Apple invented App Stores. Microsoft suck!
* Apple invented Applications. Microsoft suck!
* If you don't find my love for Apple completely rational and appropriate, you should go to a different site. This forum is for Mac users, and Real Mac Users agree that everything Microsoft does will suck!
* The (as of yet, unreleased) Windows 8 touch GUI sucks, although I haven't tried it.
* Windows 7 sucks, BTW.
The lowest common denominator on MacRumors is really low.
Just try to keep your head Bro.
I know its tough, but as long as reasonable people do their best to present a logical discussion and project an enthusiasm for tech in general and make the knowledge more available, the love of common sense will prevail .
If you look at the stupid comments from mouth frothing Apple Fanatics you will see that they are being voted down .
You wouldn't see that in the past. People are getting tired of the BS.
And even if you don't see common sense in every thread, you can be the 1 reasonable person. And other logical people who are bullied into keeping their mouth shut will see your post and feel like it's ok to chime in too.
As I have said before : This is not a "Fan Club"......It's a rumor site for discussion and speculation. Most Mac Users who have real jobs and have to participate in the world also use Windows too so this site shouldn't be exclusive to ONLY Apple users.
Keep your head up.
The smart people can spot the Jerks even if they are behind the anonymity of an Avatar and don't really have to be accountable for their words in real life. They are Jerks just the same, they know it, they and their family have to live with it and you really don't.
I was simply pointing out a few good things about the upcoming Windows 8. You are the one who started an argument out of nothing.
You obviously didn't see the comment. Talk about sensitive Admins.
People who compliment Windows 8 give people a bad name? I disagree.
Apple fanboys like you, who feel the need to bash Windows products, give Apple users a bad name.
This isn't exactly a surprise. Everybody is trying to get on the digital downloads bandwagon. On the other hand, I hardly see this as Microsoft following anything but business trends. Heck, Microsoft was the first to make a popular centrally distributed digital downloads service with Xbox Live.
Even Apple, when doing games center, referenced Xbox Live right in the conference. So it's kind of funny how people will say it's the Reality distortion field that gets people to think Apple invented certain stuff like this, unless the Reality Distortion Field includes stuff that's like the opposite of what was said at Apple. The only thing surprising is that Microsoft is surprisingly late on bringing more of that Live Marketplace to the PC. Games for Windows Live was late coming, and still seems in it's infancy. So snazzing up the interface for an easier connection with said store would make it more attractive.
Even Apple, when doing games center, referenced Xbox Live right in the conference. So it's kind of funny how people will say it's the Reality distortion field that gets people to think Apple invented certain stuff like this, unless the Reality Distortion Field includes stuff that's like the opposite of what was said at Apple. The only thing surprising is that Microsoft is surprisingly late on bringing more of that Live Marketplace to the PC. Games for Windows Live was late coming, and still seems in it's infancy. So snazzing up the interface for an easier connection with said store would make it more attractive.
I think the problem with this thread is that fundamentally (given the majority of the audience) it doesn't belong on this website under news. Maybe in the Misc forum. But not news. Because what Microsoft does and doesn't do - isn't Apple news.
Because as SOON as you post it in this section - you get the same tired battle of MS vs Apple and all the ignorance that comes along with it. From all sides.
Because as SOON as you post it in this section - you get the same tired battle of MS vs Apple and all the ignorance that comes along with it. From all sides.
It will look like W7, i.e. great.
Sooner or later well see MSFT making use of their Kinect tech. as well, to give "touch based interaction" without the need of a touch-screen (i.e. gesture control). That would be a nice thing to have, at least every now and then; the mouse is still quite awesome.
Many users actually feel that software keyboards are stupid (e.g. check Scotts verdict on the dilbert blog). Others may have been mere sceptics, with good reason as well. I still dislike them, but like most things in tech its about the trade-off; are the downsides of having a software keyboard justified by its up-sides? Well, for many users apparently they are.
Now as for the tablet, well... most people still think its quite useless, or rather not worth its price. Hard to blame them at this point.
Even so, we had tablets for almost a decade now. Some looking very close to what the ipad looks like. The problem was pretty much the same back then. Price to value ratio was way off, so people didnt buy it. Technology, however, moves forward, and as tech matures it becomes more accessible. We are far from there yet, as evidenced by the mediocre adoption even to this day. But, in just a few years well be there (or at least at the beginning of "there"). Can you blame anyone for realizing this, and wanting a share of the money? We're talking about technology predictions dating back multiple decades.
Everyone always knew what the future would be. The trick was never to figure out "what to do", but "when to do it".
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First, i doubt many people thought the idea of digital distribution was bad. If anything people may have had questions regarding the 30% (And still do), and we have yet to see if MSFT demands the same provision ("being equally stupid", so to speak) or if they treat their developers better (something they have a history of doing.)
Second, MSFT had a marketplace since Vista(?) for widgets and stuff, so its not like they did a 180 here.
OEMs on paper stating they have devices ready for release Q1 2012 (possibly Q2, who cares). Its coming, and coming soon.
Lots of people on XP* to get money from, as for W7 users they can price the upgrade at a nice level, its not that big of an upgrade (from a desktop perspective) anyway.
* XP virtualization built into the OS combined with stable performance of W7 (compared to Vista) should make people way more inclined to migrate this time around.
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The idea is about as old as home computing. Im sure Apple thought about it back in the days too, but its not like they had a stroke of genius here (like some of you wish to believe, as always).
edit: timing may of course have been influenced by Apples implementation, but timing is very different from what some here claim (i.e. stealing/copying of ideas).
