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I quite like it. Can't say i'd move to it though as i'm invested in Apple and I like their business model but this is really good for MS.

Good luck to them. I'd much rather see MS succeed then Google.

*Edit. The OS i mean. Couldn't give a toss what they call their "App Store".
 
Every bit of innovation they have is about copying Apple in some way, and every other idea they have is just ridiculous

You act like Apple hasn't copied MS or anyone else. For example, where do you think the ability to resize Windows through all points in Lion came from?

OS X STILL doesn't have a way to enlarge text size system wide. Something Windows has been able to do since XP. See this massive complaint thread here.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/352057/

You also for example forget that if you have a multi-monitor setup, then Windows will work MUCH better and you will be more productive than OS X, where if you full screen something on one screen, then everything else is just blanked out.

Explorer is also way ahead of Finder.
Lion for example removed "Save As" and there are tons of Pages users complaining.

So where is the innovation coming from Apple? They just rehash the same old stuff. Buy other companies innovations and package it up. That's not innovation. That's just selling.
 
Actually without Microsoft, Apple wouldn't exist at all...
Microsoft saved Apple when it was on the verge of bankruptcy.

This is true, but it also wasn't when Steve Jobs was with the company. He was busy creating Pixar so I'm glad he got fired. (Also in an interview I remember seeing he supported the firing and said he'd of fired himself too!)
 
It's funny, as soon as I saw the title to this thread I knew there would be lots of posters saying how Microsoft are yet again copying apple.

However I do remember, and perhaps someone can find the articles that say that windows 8 would be incorporating some online software store, which was written about before any of us had even heard about an apple software store on the mac.

Apple got it up and running 1st indeed, but I believe Microsoft were always going to do this even before we heard apple were.

Not that it matters as it's like saying best buy copied wall mart as they now sell thing online as well as in there stores
 
I'm just stating my view that Windows is getting more and more funny as it advances. Not for the sake of Mac vs. PC, but I'm just rather surprised that despite all the great ideas out there, Microsoft isn't able to pull together something consistent, useful, and pretty. Windows XP was amazing and still kind of is, but everything since then just went down hill. I switched to a Mac because I found that Vista is horrible and XP was getting old. Then came 7 which, to me, is just like Vista. And Windows 8 has this weird Phone interface. What if my computer doesn't have a touch screen? Then it will look and feel crap. I think that's pretty lame, isn't it?

I'd like Microsoft to bring out something really good and useful, why aren't they doing something? Is it because everyone's going to buy Windows anyway, regardless of what it's like? Every bit of innovation they have is about copying Apple in some way, and every other idea they have is just ridiculous. I've used PCs for many, many years and since I switched to a Mac, if I go back to a PC, I realize that some things are just horribly badly designed and thought out. How could I not hate Windows after that?? It has betrayed me after all those years of use. I was loyal and reinstalled my 3 PCs once every year. I just got tired of it!

This isn't about Apple being awesome. This is about Microsoft not being original. Look at all the great companies out there who make great products, the ones that are original, new and useful. Not just Apple, but mostly every company out there: Adobe, Google, etc... They all have something original that no one else can do. What can Microsoft do that others can't? An App Store? A touch-like interface for non-touch computers? The Start menu? The beautiful Aero design? The system tray that works just like the Dock? The fact that your system gets slower every month for no particular reason? The fact that non-responsive programs cannot be terminated regardless of how many times you force them to quit? I just don't see any effort from Microsoft's side whatsoever to do something great. Look at Google, they're constantly making things. Sure, they keep failing at it, but some things really work for them. Adobe keeps bringing out new software with really new ideas. Not to mention Apple.

I'm not sure if you're pretending to be ignorant of the facts or if you really just don't know, but I see this tactic all the time.

90% of your statement is either untrue , mis-characterizations or propaganda.

I'll admit, it does take a little common sense to run a Windows machine the same way it does to drive a car, but for the most part it's a pretty smooth experience. Why you had to re-instal every year is beyond me.

If you prefer Apple that's fine. For some things I do too. But saying that Microsoft isn't innovating is silly.

They had an online App store way before Apple.

You say "Microsoft isn't able to pull together something consistent, useful, and pretty."

I and many others dis-agree so thats not really a point.

You say "I'd like Microsoft to bring out something really good and useful, why aren't they doing something?"

They are.....Its' called Window 8 and obviously you just want to bash it without educating yourself first. It will run on ALL devices and make tablets WAY more useful :rolleyes:

"Adobe, Google, etc... They all have something original that no one else can do. What can Microsoft do that others can't?"

Again ...missing the point. Its about being able to do everything you need AND have everything else work together naturally.Playing nice with the other companies. Not being proprietary and shut down.

"The fact that your system gets slower every month for no particular reason? The fact that non-responsive programs cannot be terminated regardless of how many times you force them to quit?"

These aren't normal problems. When they do happen, it's very easy to fix.


Basically, I just don't see what your point is
 
It's Microsoft. After having spent decades dealing with their software and support, it should be named the crAPP STORE.
 
Competition is good for Apple - it just means they're forced to innovate more.

To all those saying that Microsoft have, or are trying to copy Apple with an 'App Store, you're forgetting that the success of such a feature is entirely dependant on the user experience, which Apple has always excelled at. Just because Microsoft are going to release a 'store' for Windows 8 doesn't mean it'll be half as good as other platforms, or will follow the same experience.

My own personal thoughts on it are that a Windows 'Store' is well over-due. There have been too many occasions where software has been, wastefully, released on disc when it could have been available for a download online. This of course doesn't apply to all software, but a good majority of Windows applications won't even stretch the average CD-ROM.

I love OS X Lion so far, but its good to see Microsoft actually making drastic steps to keep up with everyone else. Because the last time I checked, Windows 7 still had those old 'custom' bitmap icons from 1997!
 
Competition is good for Apple - it just means they're forced to innovate more.

To all those saying that Microsoft have, or are trying to copy Apple with an 'App Store, you're forgetting that the success of such a feature is entirely dependant on the user experience, which Apple has always excelled at. Just because Microsoft are going to release a 'store' for Windows 8 doesn't mean it'll be half as good as other platforms, or will follow the same experience.

My own personal thoughts on it are that a Windows 'Store' is well over-due. There have been too many occasions where software has been, wastefully, released on disc when it could have been available for a download online. This of course doesn't apply to all software, but a good majority of Windows applications won't even stretch the average CD-ROM.

I love OS X Lion so far, but its good to see Microsoft actually making drastic steps to keep up with everyone else. Because the last time I checked, Windows 7 still had those old 'custom' bitmap icons from 1997!

I'm more curious about the implementation. There is still plenty of potential for them to muck things up. It would be nice if it worked the same way the Mac app store does where all upgrades and things are handled automatically through the store.
 
The most difficult thing about a central app store is how to integrate it into an established OS. I don't know of any OS that handles applications from in- and outside the store in a smooth and intuitive way when it comes to installing, upgrading, and uninstalling. The LaunchPad in Lion is a spectacular example of how not to do it.

Linux distributions have just ignored the issue but because the notion of centralized software distribution via the internet is more than a decade old on that platform, almost everything can be downloaded through the "store".

It will be interesting to see how Microsoft will handle these issue.
 
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Aren't all these integrated app-stores just asking for anti-trust lawsuits? Windows is already supposed to offer different browser options to avoid locking users into Internet Explorer, but I can see app-stores causing friction with third-party services like Steam that aren't bundled with operating systems.

Don't get me wrong, I like the app-store distribution method, but this all seems like it's headed toward issues when OS vendors are forcing prominence of one particular app-store (their own) when it's not a critical OS feature, and directly generates revenue for them.
 
Don't get me wrong, I like the app-store distribution method, but this all seems like it's headed toward issues when OS vendors are forcing prominence of one particular app-store (their own) when it's not a critical OS feature, and directly generates revenue for them.
Tell Apple that their app store is not a critical feature in thier iOS.
 
I believe it should be called Program Store for Windows. But i agree Apple doesn't deserve exclusive rights to that term.

Microsoft have always used the term 'applications', this is from the Windows for Workgroups & MS-DOS 6.2 User's Guide from 1993...

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Under Programs it says "See also Applications; MS-DOS-based applications" :)
 
You can bet the farm on it.



Maybe it won't be called App Store?



Careful, sometimes it pays to be open minded.



What if Microsoft hits it out of the park with Windows 8? What if they listen the input of the mass beta users like they did on Windows 7 and come up with another great product? They certainly have the brain power to do this, the question is will they? Will they take the time to do it right and polish all the rough edges or will they rush it out half baked? Hopefully they are watching at all the tablet disasters due to rushing out unfinished products.




Apple invented everything, didn't you know that? Steve came up with the theory of relativity, not Einstein. He built the Sphynx and the Great Pyramids too. He is one amazing dude.

He also invented the wine, Coca-cola and even the weed. Perhaps, that's why many people like these products. Who could else invented them?:rolleyes:
 
Awww! I'm currently running the highest version of Windows 7. I love the feeling of having the very best. But, I'm probably not going be able to get my hands on Windows 8 Ultimate. :(
 
There's a big difference between iOS and Mac OSX in this case. I personally do not use the mac app store anywhere near as much as a mobile store (Android market).

I don't see why anti-trust would apply differently to mobile vs desktop OS's as the original poster claims.
 
Ironic Post considering that your just copying all of the other Crazed Apple fans on this site with your comment.

Why ?

It contributes nothing.

Are we trying to fit in? That's "Thinking Different" :rolleyes:

you have a top of the line hp envy.......... you are "trying to think different". :rolleyes:
 
He also invented the wine, Coca-cola and even the weed. Perhaps, that's why many people like these products. Who could else invented them?:rolleyes:

I heard that Steve invented Microsoft in 1975 so that Apple would look good. And the Internet? No, sorry Al Gore, Steve did it. And I have an email to prove, I just received this reply:

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From: Steve Jobs
Subject: Re: Did you invent Internet?

Yes it's true.

Sent from my iPhone 5,
Steve

> Is it true, Steve, that you invented Internet?
 
Windows 7 may not be the fastest or the prettiest OS, but it is very solid. There are problems, but a lot less than Vista and XP. It just feels solid. Everyone has the right not like something.However, when you criticize a product just because it is a Microsoft product, then, you just look like a mindless extremist. OS X is also very good and it hast its problems too. I don't know if W8 is going to be very solid. We have to wait.
 
You say "I'd like Microsoft to bring out something really good and useful, why aren't they doing something?"

They are.....Its' called Window 8 and obviously you just want to bash it without educating yourself first. It will run on ALL devices and make tablets WAY more useful :rolleyes:

Yes, because we know how great is Microsoft's track record on making tablets useful.
 
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