Fair. I am probably more sensitive to the input lag that most running on 144 and 240 hertz displays.
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Microsoft's xCloud and Xbox Game Pass Not Coming to iOS Due to Apple's Restrictions [Updated]
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Fair. I am probably more sensitive to the input lag that most running on 144 and 240 hertz displays.
I believe that's what congress would say if they had complaints from Sony.
I played some Halo on xCloud and honestly it wasn't bad. Not great either. Am I going to give up my PC running a RTX Geforce 2080 Super? lol.....hardly. But I would play some slower paced games like a tactical or turn-based RPG that really don't benefit from high frame rates or are hindered by high input lag.
However, if I was a gamer who traveled a lot then I could see the benefit to this tech. But that's a niche market and it would need to be a lot bigger to matter.
Does not compute. I can stream my PlayStation games and my Steam games to my iOS devices. None of my games have to be reviewed for iOS for me to do that.
The difference is that I stream from. My hardware on my network whereas Game Pass would go through the cloud. But I don’t understand why that makes a difference.
The difference is that I stream from. My hardware on my network whereas Game Pass would go through the cloud. But I don’t understand why that makes a difference.
Because its your own content. You bought the games on Playstation. Or Steam. It is your game library.
Why would I do that? If I am going to school, I go there to learn. Not play games.
This was in the plan for about 5 years now according to a recent article that Apple was very frustrated with Intel Skylake CPUs. They have had this planned for years. I do not think anyone expected AMD to come around with Ryzen and blow away Intel.
I have a Windows PC for gaming and an iMac for work. While I would like to have one system, and still might get a Mac Pro this fall to last 5 years, Macs were never meant for gaming.
Is xCloud inner working available to anyone anywhere I’m not sure this is the case even if it is game developers can do a lot with controls (not just controllers) in fact any developer can It might seem Apple is just naming arbitrary things but as it stands streaming in this case might be broader than it seems and Apple does not like streaming games that is within their right as a company, just like Apple is in the right to not put Xcode or Final Cut X on Windows
if a customer prioritize this getting and Android phone is probably the right choice
And No One should stop them if they are stopping themselves that their problem
Apple is great but Google, Samsung, LG and so many more (really even Nokia makes android smartphones)
Yes, an illogical, uneducated litigation attorney. That’s me. You really are most astute.
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I mostly game on a 144hz Ultrawide monitor. With game pass, you can download the games locally on a PC or Xbox, it doesn't have to be a stream. For now, you have to download the games locally, as streaming starts next month. I will be able to play Destiny 2 on game pass locally on my PC with max settings, my most played way. Sometimes I want to relax on the couch, so I'll continue my progress with game pass on an xbox in the living room (despite the drastic change of keyboard and mouse, to controller).
Not everything in Destiny requires full attention or the most precise input lag. So to someone like me who prefers my PC, it is still a convenient option to play on a mobile device streaming. I'm not going into multiplayer streaming it on my phone because I have a PC, but I would be on my phone to grind out daily bounties. I've discovered games I would have never bought, or would have waited a long time for a sale. Even with a PC rig it's been worth my money. So far, they've got over 10 million subscribers.
First thing Linux you the One Microsoft hated and changed their mind about, One of the five most common OS
if we go by the logic many people cite Microsoft could Definitely have gone the “amazon” alleged route and get a “special” treatment but instead they decided to pressure Apple publicly I don’t know how xCloud really does operate, if it’s like you say there is some very specific parts of the policy that addresses it, I wonder if Microsoft has the power to make them change it?
Well that was a dumb move Apple. I have been waiting for xCloud on iOS for ssoooooo long. This feels wrong. Gonna have to buy an android device for it now. Apple won't even care, they already have my money
I feel the same way. It feels like this year Apple has totally gone insular and shafted those of us who value interoperability what with ARM Macs and now this. Guess we should've seen it coming at some point... It's that overinflated Apple hubris and "courage" again.
In a way the Game Pass games are games I already paid for and “own.” The Game Pass library is my library. I paid for my PS Plus “free” games the same way I pay for my Game Pass games.
Beyond the limited beta (i.e. Preview), don't think of them as separate services just a feature of Game Pass Ultimate.
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Sony would complain if it didn't outsell Xbox by more than double. This is simply Microsoft being greedy because it's failing hard with Xbox.
It's been like this for over a decade (years before the App Store was announced), but no one complained until Apple joined the game.
Yeah I like your distinction there between an app and content... /s
If Microsoft was trying to make xCloud work like Apple Arcade, then yes, they would be considered apps in the sense that you have to have them installed locally on your device and they run code locally on your device. xCloud is a streaming service pure and simple. To categorize each game you stream as an “app” just to fit the restrictions Apple has placed for “reader” apps is completely ridiculous and is the issue here. That’s the policy being argued here. Apps like Netflix and YouTube stream content from their servers and users interact with the content by the controls given to them within the app, which goes through the review process. I don’t understand how you and Apple think xCloud is any different. It’s accepting user input with the controls and functions within the app which goes through the review process and streaming the video. If they are going to apply the rules consistently across the board, then “reader” apps like Netflix, Amazon Prime, and every other streaming service should be taken down.
But hey, let’s go with your distinction of a game being an app. VNC allows me to remote into my computer from wherever I’m at. I can launch a game there or any kind of app I have on my computer without any scrutiny from Apple. What’s the difference with xCloud? It’s specifically geared towards video games. What did Apple come out with recently and probably had in the works when the policy was put in place? A game subscription service. Bad look.
And again, we might be missing something here. Maybe Microsoft is actually storing bits of code from the game locally like save data or game state, but we don’t know for sure. If that were the case, then yes, I would change my opinion on this issue in an instant. My whole point with this whole conversation has been the optics are not good for Apple when it seems that they are applying the rules differently in certain situations and this is the kind of thing they should look into during an anti-trust case, not commission rates for a service they provide.
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