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Microsoft's xCloud and Xbox Game Pass Not Coming to iOS Due to Apple's Restrictions [Updated]
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I specifically asked the person you're responding to why the app review policy shouldn't apply to Microsoft in this instance and they never replied. I'll ask you: why do you believe Microsoft shouldn't have to follow the app review policy?
When I download a game on macOS, it has an .app extension every time and it automatically goes into the Applications folder. This isn't something Apple arbitrarily invented to snub Microsoft.
Games are apps, or applications or programs. On my Windows 10 PC, games have exe extensions. Entertainment in the form of Movies, Music or TV are just audio/visual files. A game can have hundreds of audio/visual files along with executing code.
A game is not equal to movies and TV.
And that's the sum total of your argument, really. I'm sure there are NFL teams that would prefer to have more players on their roster than NFL rules currently allow or a higher salary cap.
That’s also an issue, and not an excuse. They should grab all these greedy $@&*! by their tails and slam against the next wall.
Oh, so it’s ok to respond to input if you only do it a little bit. Clever.
Well this thread has really gone off the rails since the apple apologists woke up and got out of bed. A lot of straw-man arguments on when Tim Cook is god and can abuse you any way he likes... and you will like it.
You just contradicted your own argument. Also I 100% disagree with the distinction you’re making because it’s nonsense. Imagine if you do a call with a friend where they share their screen - does the app they’re currently showing now count as an app on your iPhone? Of course not. Apple just wants to ensure every potential purchase goes through the App Store. That’s it.
.... it shouldn't, anymore than an internet based javascript game should count as an app on your phone -- which it doesn't. Actually, thats a better comparison. A javascript game is actually running code on your phone...... a game from a streaming service IS NOT
I'm starting to get the opinion that some of the strongest defenders in here are actually on the right platform for them; they seem to know so little about technology they probably would put their credit card in any form that asked for it.
I said that there's no doubt Apple has an App Store policy in place regarding cloud-based gaming that they're following per their own guidelines correctly. I'm not trying to argue that Microsoft shouldn't have to follow the rules. Whatever the guideline, all should abide by them.
What everyone replying to you is saying that we want there to be a larger conversation about how cloud-based gaming has grown and evolved over the past 12 months, so it may be time to re-visit the policy. And I think with the coverage it's getting here and on other sites, it's a start in the right direction.
I would imagine the App Store has changed their guidelines throughout the years, as tech and how we consume things change. This can't happen with the last couple of pages here where it's like - Person A: "But that's the rule", Person B: "I realize that, but let's have a conversation about if it should be updated." Person A: "But it's the rule. Why should they be allowed to break the rule? No breaking the rule".
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I believe LG does not use PWM. Samsung does use PWM on all AMOLED displays. Not sure about Google Pixel or Asus. the ROG phone 3 is the GOAT of 2020 android gaming.
Imagine this fall at school kids with Android phones playing cool Stadia and/or xCloud games while their iOS counterparts playing thoroughly curated (by Apple) Apple Arcade games. Some kids may even be playing games on the large screens of their foldable Samsung phones. For parents, guess what you will be told to give your kids as a gift next xmas...
That is a conversation that seems better than others here stating Apple prevented it because it competes with Apple Arcade. Sure, let's discuss the policy. I for one have mixed feelings about it. What I do have an issue with is people saying this is an anti-competitive move or just because it competes with Apple Arcade it was prevented.
Someone tried making the claim that it was a technical issue. If its a technical issue, then Apple's engineers are crap because every other platform can handle it. But, its not a technical issue, its an issue of money and greed. Its not the engineers that are bad, just the executives.
I wouldn't say it competes with Apple Arcade..... it competes against games in the App Store, in the same way Spotify competes against everything in Apple Music.... except you arent downloading/installing anything like you do with the App Store.
It is a good point. If game streaming becomes a big deal then Apple will be in a tough spot. They don't have an alternate service to provide at this point and are preventing those who do have services from coming on to their platform. So, for the most part, game streaming on iOS will be a massive void.
The question remains as to whether game streaming will become big enough for any of it to matter. If that space flops with customers (bandwidth, lag, whatever) then Apple will be fine, but it becomes a hit then Apple will need to make some tough choices.
I for one do not understand the appeal to cloud gaming. There is no chance it has the same input lag as my 300+fps computer running the code locally at 144hz or 240 hz display. Actually even PS Now has input lag when I was trying out Metal Gear Solid and I have 500 Mbps connection.
Apple seems to be scoring a lot of self-goals. Honestly, the policy doesn't likely stop people from buying Game Pass. It doesn't make people buy mobile versions of the same games (many of which don't exist) on the iPhone. It doesn't protect privacy or security. It doesn't ensure quality of the app, since there are a lot of crap apps on the App store already. Its not limited by technology, but instead arbitrary policy designed in theory to force all service and software sales to give Apple their share. All Apple is doing is angering users that would want to use it on their platform, and causing extra scrutiny on their policies at a time they are already being called before congress. It likely costs them nothing to remove this policy restriction, but will cost them in future sales and legal actions. There is absolutely no reason for Apple to have any say in what type of things I do with a "remote desktop" application, which is what this is.
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I don't disagree, but just because you don't find it appealing doesn't mean its not important to others to have the option