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Ming-Chi Kuo Casts Doubt on iPhone SE 2, Expects Few Changes Should New Model Launch
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Its a little hard to believe squeezing new chips and a charging coil into an old shell will hog up to much of Apples resources. If they wanna update the SE, they will.
I've been so discouraged with the manufactures preference of larger phones being flagships. I understand that there are technical advantages to having a larger chassis to fit "more stuff" into but the SE has always been a second class citizen. Our hardware is more then up to the job but we miss out on all those fancy new features.
My real issue is that when they launched it the statement was "some people just like smaller phones". Not "only poor people like smaller phones". I cant palm a basket ball and damn it i want to touch all four corners of my phone with one hand. Make a god damn 4" version of the iPhone X or 8 and i'll happily buy one! Hell i'll happily pay 1000 bucks for it maybe even 1200.
My real issue is that when they launched it the statement was "some people just like smaller phones". Not "only poor people like smaller phones". I cant palm a basket ball and damn it i want to touch all four corners of my phone with one hand. Make a god damn 4" version of the iPhone X or 8 and i'll happily buy one! Hell i'll happily pay 1000 bucks for it maybe even 1200.
Apple needs to release a new SE because their iPhone X sales are horrid. No one needs wireless charging on it. More storage and updated processor would be enough for the lower end iPhone market.
They can't update it and have it hurt sales of the iPhone X and 8 phones. It would cost them too much money and not make it to 1 Trillion if they updated the iPhone SE. The only logical decision is to treat the iPhone SE like they do the Mac Mini / Mac Pro / iPod Touch / iPad Mini.
You're literally saying they shouldn't do this because it would hurt their focus on making as much money as humanly possible in spite of everything else. Apple used to be consumer-focused ... which is why they got to where they are in the first place.
Also a notch behind the X, right?
I would like to see the C form factor back; that very square model is just uncomfortable. Do a C like unapologetically plastic 2, but make it worthy. Windows Phone is on the way out and I still don't care for Android. A new cheaper iPhone with a bit of C fun and SE build quality, and headphone jack, would be cool to see.
Touting an SE right now and it's still handles everything that I throw at it. I can't think of anything more than I need it to do. Even the battery performance meets my current needs, since I can plug in at the office, at home and in the vehicle.
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Also a notch behind the X, right?
I would like to see the C form factor back; that very square model is just uncomfortable. Do a C like unapologetically plastic 2, but make it worthy. Windows Phone is on the way out and I still don't care for Android. A new cheaper iPhone with a bit of C fun and SE build quality, and headphone jack, would be cool to see.
I disagree wholeheartedly with the square form factor being uncomfortable. It's my preferred design. I love the solid feel of this device. My gf has the 6s, but she is always using my phone for playing games! She prefers it, too!
I'd like to see better frames of reference, how far out where the amazing predictions, weeks, months? My perception is that he's just lucky and some of his other predictions other than those noted, have not been close, but somehow those fall off the map.
Another thing to consider the if you update it much you increase production cost. It’s being sold as a $350 (or less) phone. Profit margins are much better on the larger phones where people expect to pay more. If we don’t see an updated SE it probably has more to do with margins then it does with Apple not having the resources to develop it.
I would happily pay full freight for a 4” phone with all the newest tech. I don’t need a phablet.
I think they're talking about more than just money -- need the bandwidth of all kinds of technicians, I'd imagine, not to mention the availability of components, contractors' production lines. You have to assume these resources are committed well in advance because nobody wants an idle factory or an idle worker.
I'd be super interested to see a documentary showing the total journey of all the parts of (say) an iPhone from raw materials all the way through manufacturing and shipping. Anybody see anything like this?
I am a huge fan of the SE, but an upgrade still doesn't make sense yet. It is a very capable budget phone. People have to remember this was meant for emerging smart phone markets and it was a perk for those of us that like the smaller form factor. If they update the SE with the specs of the 8 (only way an update makes sense), it will surely eat away at the 8 and even X.
Fascinating! Thanks for stopping by this thread about the iPhone SE to let us all know that!
If I remember correctly, Ming-Chi Kuo is the same source who stated that the shrinking delivery times for the iPhone X was not an indication of weak demand. Does he do retractions or does he just move on?
I know I would gladly upgrade from our 6s to that new SE if it meant a sensible size (3.5-4"), Touch ID and a A11, regardless of the price.
Your iPad replacement was part of my initial thoughts for my post. Somewhere along the way, lost it. Thanks!
Retractions may be common for a ventriloquist dummy of the Apple Board - but only in private time
He's just preparing/managing/manipulating public opinion and can't be wrong
If there's indeed to be a Q2 new phone announcement, that phone should already be well under way in the supply chain, and solid rumors would be leaking out. The fact that all we have is speculation thus far suggests to me that nothing's coming that soon. Would be nice to be wrong, though.