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Ming-Chi Kuo Casts Doubt on iPhone SE 2, Expects Few Changes Should New Model Launch
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I think Apple is in a bit of a tight spot with regard to the SE. In Feb/Mar 2017 a customer survey was released indicating that not only did the SE have the best overall customer satisfaction of any iPhone, it was the only iPhone to have a higher customer sat rating than the latest Samsung phones at the time. While having a customer be delighted with any iPhone is better than being with the competition, being delighted with the entry-level iPhone is not desirable (from Apple's point of view).
The SE can now currently be found brand new for under $200 without a contract and no subsidy. That's cheaper than the latest iPod Touch model that is woefully outdated.
SE battery life is noteworthy in that it is noticeably better than the more expensive iPhones. In my uses, I can go quite a few days with my nearly 2 yr old SE on a single charge without a problem.
Any update to the SE will eat into sales of the iPhone 8. How much depends upon how much of an update it is and how important the smaller form-factor, headphone jack, and lower price are to people.
I'd be surprised if there is an updated SE in 2018. 2019 seems more likely.
The SE can now currently be found brand new for under $200 without a contract and no subsidy. That's cheaper than the latest iPod Touch model that is woefully outdated.
SE battery life is noteworthy in that it is noticeably better than the more expensive iPhones. In my uses, I can go quite a few days with my nearly 2 yr old SE on a single charge without a problem.
Any update to the SE will eat into sales of the iPhone 8. How much depends upon how much of an update it is and how important the smaller form-factor, headphone jack, and lower price are to people.
I'd be surprised if there is an updated SE in 2018. 2019 seems more likely.
Interesting. I found the square sides of the 4/5 to be especially annoying for gaming. Digging into one's hands like nothing since the PS1 controller with its insane screwholes.
The design peaked with the 3g/3gs and it is a shame they clearly never realised that, while being impressive that they got it right so quickly. To each their own of course
YOU ARE VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERYVERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY WELCOME!
Damn keeping yours to remind you to not do stupid things in life... Instead of just selling it and getting something else.
It sucks that you’re having such a hard time with it. It’s really not bad...
The SE is the last real iPhone. It has a unique design, that sets it off from the competitors. Everything after that, 6 and its clones and the X look generic.
I just hope for 128GB, better camera and better touch ID, then I will throw away my 6 and go back to the roots, back to a time, when a cell phone was a cell phone and not a phablet.
I just hope for 128GB, better camera and better touch ID, then I will throw away my 6 and go back to the roots, back to a time, when a cell phone was a cell phone and not a phablet.
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Let me count the times that self-appointed experts in the Far East have had negative reports about Apple...I would say about 8 in the last year.
I don’t even think the SE’s big issue is it’s processor.
TouchID 2 is what I want most.
Apple should then introduce tech that keeps all users in sync with their services and design direction, which means:
- A new screen capable of Force Touch
- AirPlay 2
- Solid Home button (one you can’t press down because it’s not an actual button.
Lastly, include a better CPU, because they’d need to redesign the internals anyway, and an A10 chip would be great.
TouchID 2 is what I want most.
Apple should then introduce tech that keeps all users in sync with their services and design direction, which means:
- A new screen capable of Force Touch
- AirPlay 2
- Solid Home button (one you can’t press down because it’s not an actual button.
Lastly, include a better CPU, because they’d need to redesign the internals anyway, and an A10 chip would be great.
Because if it weren't for Ming, then MacRumours would be posting recipes for cooking toast and boiling eggs. Unfortunately now with so many 'Ming says...' there isn't much worth reading in here anymore. Time to burn the Ming effigy MacRumours.
Good luck finding an alternative. The iPhone SE is one of the few phones with a small screen and reasonable specs.
$150 gets you an AT&T iPhone SE.
$100 around the holidays got you a Total Wireless iPhone SE.
I picked one up to use as an iPod Touch. Alas, under iOS11, do not seem to be getting the much vaunted 10-12 hours of battery life. It's also been an adjustment given how thin my current IPT 6G is. Still, great device, although I long to see the iPad Mini updated
Several people mentioned one-handed use of their iPhones. How do you manage that?! I've always operated these things with two hands —one to hold and one to tap. Sure I'd drop it, otherwise!
Not updating the SE would simply be another epic fail under the leadership of Tim. 
Both my wife and I have SE's and they will remain on 10.3 for as long as we own them. We're still getting terrific battery life from them. As for one-handed use, it is pretty easy. Even my wife (when she doesn't have long nails) can use it one-handed and she has small hands.
Bugs in iOS 11
Delayed HomePod
Delayed iPhone X
Something is definitely not working as expected. Resources would be a good guess.
If u keep bring out more models we'd end up like Android is... plenty to choose from and even Apple couldn't keep with with all the sizes, even if it *is* as a convenience for customer, it would actually drive everyone nuts.
We may say, "bring out a new model" but if we keep saying that, Apple will no longer be a simple company anymore. Then we'd be worrying that Apple makes too many products for us to choose.
We may say, "bring out a new model" but if we keep saying that, Apple will no longer be a simple company anymore. Then we'd be worrying that Apple makes too many products for us to choose.
Drive EVERYONE nuts? Are you saying that Apple customers will have difficulty choosing a phone among 4 models?
Lack of spending on those resources, it would be pretty pathetic for Apple to only be capable of working on one iPhone at a time ever year.. they don’t exactly have a large portfolio of products.
They definitely aren't in danger of making too many products. The lack of updates on some of their products is the biggest issue people have with them ... or just completely and utterly ignoring customer needs (like the Mac Pro). They need to dislodge their heads from their nether regions.
If that was true, it would have been done. But Apples never made as many products as others, because they want to simplify everything in choosing.
Fewer products are easier to manage then too many products and must cater for a larger section with updates etc..
I wouldn't say 'ignoring' anyone... by not updating for a long time, to me that always mean a 'shift' (end of life, or just putting it out on the fence to dry)
Until Apple does prove it at WWDC that is.
An iPhone SE 2 or iPhone SE (2018) would be the ONLY thing I'd consider buying from Apple at this point. And only because it is almost impossible to find a smaller (reasonably) sized phone in the US market. Otherwise I'm done with them as a company.
They don't make any products I want. And everything else about them I can get for better/cheaper under Windows or Linux at this point. The Apple Tax used actually stand for something, but iOS 11 and High Sierra have been dumpster fires out the door. Build quality has gone down, at the same time serviceability has nose dived, meaning Apple is the only place to go for costly repairs that should have been matter of 10 minutes work with a screw driver.
Apple has spent these last 5 to 7 years just pissing me off repeatedly, to the point that I'm not pushing my non-tech relatives towards Windows and Linux platforms over Apple. Especially those who've gotten screwed over by Apple's Annual Death March of Obsolescence.
Tim et all seem to have forgotten that is was the technology savvy that brought our non-tech friends and family over the Apple space over 10 years, which is why they now enjoy the market share they do. In the next 10 years I will not be shocked at all see that population get migrated away again, like it did in the early/mid 90s.
They don't make any products I want. And everything else about them I can get for better/cheaper under Windows or Linux at this point. The Apple Tax used actually stand for something, but iOS 11 and High Sierra have been dumpster fires out the door. Build quality has gone down, at the same time serviceability has nose dived, meaning Apple is the only place to go for costly repairs that should have been matter of 10 minutes work with a screw driver.
Apple has spent these last 5 to 7 years just pissing me off repeatedly, to the point that I'm not pushing my non-tech relatives towards Windows and Linux platforms over Apple. Especially those who've gotten screwed over by Apple's Annual Death March of Obsolescence.
Tim et all seem to have forgotten that is was the technology savvy that brought our non-tech friends and family over the Apple space over 10 years, which is why they now enjoy the market share they do. In the next 10 years I will not be shocked at all see that population get migrated away again, like it did in the early/mid 90s.