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If Apple removes Touch ID I'll eat my iPhone 7 live on stream. There's no way they remove what is probably the #1 feature of the iPhone.
 
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LOL! On the microscopic (nanoscopic?) parsing of Kuo's published statement: "Kuo said NO/YES/MAYBE."

I couldn't care less as I am keeping my trusted SE.

But for those that do care, I say: R.E.L.A.X.

It is quite possible that Apple has executed a perfect "Hail Mary Pass" to obfuscate the competition, thus, including Kuo's reporting.

... Or, not.
 
For me: No Touch ID = No Sale
That is what I said when Apple removed the headphone jack. I still have my 6s and use the headphone jack daily. When Apple no longer sells a phone with the versatile jack, I will be looking else where for a phone. I hope that day is a long way off.
 
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I use TouchID for every app that supports it. Passwords suck, and I hope I never have to remember another password ever again.

And yes, I still have to remember my passwords because of other devices, but still.
 
Isn't the most obvious alternative to display-embedded Touch ID that it move into the Apple logo? It's located perfectly for the job and is an existing cut out in the phone's body.
 
To be fair, this guy spouts stuff then updates his predictions on a weekly basis, anyone could do that and eventually be right
 
Hmmm... I'm not sure how that would work.


That would seem to make the most sense for this redesign. Also, a recent mockup showed that the power button is much longer than the current one so that seems like a real possibility.
Good catch! I do remember seeing something about the power button being bigger.
I think we just figured this one out! ;)
 
I'm one of those that just wishes they would push back the release of this thing till spring if that's what it takes to get it right. They were already saying the manufacturing process on these would likely be delayed because of the OLED screen anyway so just do the announcement on everything and release the standard iPhones in September and these in 1Q2018 when they can sort these issues out. I'd rather wait a couple months and get a complete product than get a compromised product a few months earlier.
 
I really hope they don't omit Touch ID. I love it! So much better than any face or iris scanner. I feel it would be a bad move to remove it entirely.
 
I think the solution is delay it until they've got it working. If that means waiting until early next year for the phone that's a sacrifice I'd be more than fine with (I'm sure Tim Cook and the share holders would think otherwise though).
While that's sounds good in practice there are two problems:

1. People's phone contracts, especially Apple's upgrade program, are squarely aimed at a September release. You pay Apple money on the understanding come September you get a shiny new toy.

2. What if it takes six months to figure out? or nine months? etc. What if it was a nice idea but it's never going to be feasible at the scale Apple requires due to incredibly low yield rates and they can't get the cost down to the profit margin they require?

Don't get me wrong I would love to see Apple pull it off, it would be a world first, but sometimes we have to take a step back and admit just because we would like a feature doesn't mean we are going to get it.
 
I wonder how accurate the 3D scanning system might be, and whether it perhaps has the fidelity to take a fingerprint scan from a distance -- so without having to touch the device, but rather just hold your finger in front of it, print facing the screen. Now that would be a cool trick. Thus the answer that "it has no fingerprint scanner under the display" at least in the traditional sense is true. Well, we shall see.
 
Ben Lovejoy at 9to5Mac said that, while Kuo is more right than most analysts, he assessed Kuo's success rate at 44% (though he admitted that was an unscientific assessment).

That is not Ben Lovejoy making that assessment. Look at the article here and you can see he is just quoting someone from another article here.

Former Time and Fortune writer Philip Elmer-DeWitt last year put Kuo’s reliability under the microscope, finding (in an admittedly unscientific fashion) that his overall reliability was 44%.

The article is very odd. He picks seven out of 91 MacRumors articles and rates them on accuracy to arrive at the 44%. I just don't see how using seven out of 91 articles and not explaining how the seven were selected could be considered anything close to accurate.

I didn’t test all 91 in the MacRumors list, but I tried to pick out a representative sample from the past two years, starting with…

There is a 2015 article here with a list of Ming-Chi Kuo's predictions and if you look at the list he has a pretty good track record.

Edit: Fixed typo Loveboy/Lovejoy
 
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Good question. The bigger question is this, what is the guys reputation? why don't Macrumors actually mention what the persons reputation is like by comparing what they've said vs. what eventually happened? regarding the issue itself, I doubt they'll remove it given it is an iconic feature that they're rolling out to all Apple devices and is also the cornerstone of Apple Pay.

Most of us who follow Apple rumors know exactly who he is (most accurate analyst making Apple predictions) and what his reputation is.
 
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Touch ID was probably the last feature by Steve Jobs. I don't see any new features has the taste of Apple after 5S
 
If they do remove Touch ID they must have a lot of faith in 3D facial recognition, i still don't see them removing it it's possible that they have found a way to embed it under the display or they will move it to either the power button or somewhere else.
 
This can't be true. No touch ID and that ugly notch at the top of the screen? Definitely not Apple-like.
 
Not buying the no Touch Id. Apple Pay goes bye bye on the phone if it's not there. No way they use facial, or retina, recognition.
 
Based on the fact that his predictions are most always correct. What more do you want? You stating that he isn't doesn't change the fact that he is.

Most recently he predicted the 10.5 inch iPad Pro, a new 12.9-inch iPad Pro and a standard 9.7-inch iPad update. He was correct on all accounts.

But, he has been correct FOR YEARS.
I would love to know the stats on accuracy of non-obvious predictions he’s made (that nobody else predicted).
 
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