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Ming-Chi Kuo Predicts iPhone 8 Will Omit Touch ID Entirely, Come in Limited Color Options
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I may wait and see what happens before proclaiming the sky is falling down and/or I know what I'm talking about 
In all seriousness though I trust Apple to do the best thing. If Touch ID is removed it will be to make way for an equally effective alternative. I'm pretty sure that no one here has thought of something that Apple hasn't.
In all seriousness though I trust Apple to do the best thing. If Touch ID is removed it will be to make way for an equally effective alternative. I'm pretty sure that no one here has thought of something that Apple hasn't.
It would be such a step backward to have facial recognition but not Touch ID. If anything, the two should be complimentary technologies, not an either/or solution.
Please excuse me if this has already been stated; wouldn’t the feature of sending money between iOS devices using Touch ID negate these claims?
So they put it in the laptop just to take it away in the phone? Anything for bezelless I guess. The phone could have 30 minutes of battery life, but as long as it doesn't have those ugly bezels, people will pay $1000+ for it.
I'm sorry but I still don't believe this and I really really hope Ming is wrong.
I'm sorry but I still don't believe this and I really really hope Ming is wrong.
At this point. i'll wait and see what Apple really has to offer before making proclamations.
Why dont you do some research instead of going into butthurt denial mode? (SPOILER: He's almost always right)
https://www.cultofmac.com/273923/ming-chi-kuo/
Unfortunately Apple does not have a good history in this regard, just look at the recent example of removing the universal standard headphone jack and replacing it with what is, at the moment, inferior sounding Bluetooth.
If Apple does not delay the next iPhone this time around to allow for under screen fingerprint sensing, it will be a decision made (with previous form) to appease the shareholders rather than the customers.
I'm sure they will spin it, however, to say that they are courageously leading from the front with the most beautifully advanced 3D facial recognition technology in the universe (only to introduce the under screen fingerprint sensor everybody wanted later with the XS)
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I'll believe it when I see it. I like TouchID - it's convenient. If they replace it better be just as convenient or more so which will obviously vary based on use case and opinion.
KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo today made ten predictions related to the 2017 debut of the "iPhone 8," "iPhone 7s," and "iPhone 7s Plus," which are expected to be announced in September and launch sometime afterwards (via StreetInsider).
Kuo's predictions today largely fall in line with all the rumors we've been hearing about the 2017 iPhones over the past few months, with a few new tidbits that suggest the iPhone 8 will be industry-leading in terms of its edge-to-edge design, come in limited color options, and that Apple may be removing Touch ID completely from the OLED smartphone.
According to Kuo, the iPhone 8 will have "the highest screen-to-body ratio of any smartphone currently available worldwide," thanks to a drastic reduction in bezels and an edge-to-edge display that we've recently been seeing in various renders. A "notch" for the front-facing camera and sensors will be the only noticeable part of the iPhone 8's bezel design, Kuo said.
Kuo's new predictions also continue to corroborate the iPhone 8's lack of a physical Home button, but he goes on to state that Touch ID will not be incorporated into the OLED smartphone's display. The analyst didn't provide any mention of Touch ID moving elsewhere on the iPhone 8, like the back of the device or lock button as has been previously rumored and largely debunked.
Kuo instead referenced advanced features like "3D sensing for facial recognition," suggesting Apple is ready to ditch Touch ID completely for a new form of biometric security. The analyst said that Apple is still facing technical challenges with implementing Touch ID into a full-screen front-facing display.
Here's Kuo's full list of iPhone 8 predictions:
Another new tidbit includes Kuo's belief that the iPhone 8 will come in fewer color options than the iPhone 7s and iPhone 7s Plus, which the analyst said will help Apple maintain the OLED iPhone's "boutique image."
Otherwise, Kuo's predictions fall in line with previous reports we've seen on the 2017 iPhones, including 64GB and 256GB storage capacities, 3GB of RAM for iPhone 8 and iPhone 7s Plus and 2GB of RAM for iPhone 7s, and a Lightning port with the addition of USB-C Power Delivery for faster charging.
Kuo still believes that all iPhones will be revealed in September, but the iPhone 8 will see a wide availability well after the LCD models thanks to a later production ramp-up schedule. In May, Kuo predicted that a "worst case scenario" is also possible, where "severe supply shortages" will persist throughout 2017 for users looking to get their hands on iPhone 8, with supply tightness not improving until the first quarter of 2018.
Article Link: Ming-Chi Kuo Predicts iPhone 8 Will Omit Touch ID Entirely, Come in Limited Color Options
The amount of autism in this 'prediction' is unreal. How does this make ANY business sense to have the MOST expensive iPhone not support Apple's Apple Pay feature or security? This is completely inaccurate, shame on MacRumors for even giving this moron space on the website with such a stupid prediction.
Im absolutely fine with this. My surface pro 4 unlocks in a split second using facial recognition. All the dweebs will cry and say they wont buy it, all the normal public will think its cool and a step forward. Facial recognition can absolutely be used for Apple pay, contactless credit cards dont have ANY form of authentication whatsoever and are ubiquitous.
Anyone else feel like when all phones end up looking like this, buildup to the next new phone is OVER?
oy vey! everyone kind of digging their heels in now...
if it is true im sure they have figured out a new way to complete transactions thats just as quick as before, if not the phone wont sell all that well!
if it is true im sure they have figured out a new way to complete transactions thats just as quick as before, if not the phone wont sell all that well!
First off, as others have noted, he might not have meant what the headlines said. But that aside:
Apple Pay doesn't depend on TouchId. A fingerprint is a shortcut for entering a passcode, which you can do instead.
Thus another biometric shortcut (facial, iris, finger shape, brain waves) could take its place and no doubt will one day in the future.
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You are of course entitled to your opinion but, in this context, it's incredibly ironic that you chose to ignore the first part of my post in your quote
Also, personally, I'm entirely happy that the headphone jack was removed. I've never once missed it. But I do understand there are other people who may feel differently
I may wait and see what happens before proclaiming the sky is falling down and/or I know what I'm talking about
In all seriousness though I trust Apple to do the best thing. If Touch ID is removed it will be to make way for an equally effective alternative. I'm pretty sure that no one here has thought of something that Apple hasn't.
I'm curious as to what Biometric function could mean. The Apple Watch pairs with your iPhone in a unique way. I wonder if some derritive of this method was developed to utalize Biometrics?
If true, this new technology needs to be fast.
Do you really don't know the answer to that? Or is this just a knee-jerk reaction to throw shade on him because you don't like the message he delivers?
(I really do think I know the answer to my question but it might be the polite thing to leave an element of doubt.)
You are of course entitled to your opinion but, in this context, it's incredibly ironic that you chose to ignore the first part of my post in your quote
Also, personally, I'm entirely happy that the headphone jack was removed. I've never once missed it. But I do understand there are other people who may feel differently
I didn't ignore the first part of your post Jim for any reason other than to start from the part that came after "in all seriousness".
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I'm glad you're happy with the headphone jack removal, but it does provide a decent example of an instance where Apple have removed something without replacing it with something better from a core functionality point of view.
From your post, this was the basis of your trust in Apple.
And how would you line up your face in order to get it on the phone screen? The phone has to be really really close to the NFC reader. Tall people would have to hunch down to get their face on the screen. Short people would have to stand on their tip toes, etc. etc. etc. Apple Pay would quickly be abandoned due to the difficulty.