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why would they remove touch id ?
Because they're brave. First it is the headphone jack, now touchID....

Assuming KGI is right, I would guess that they found a way for facial to be as accurate and as fast. Thus, when you hold your phone up to the credit card terminal, it would authenticate you simultaneously using facial recognition.
 
Can't see it myself, not omitting it completely. And placing it on the back or power button is cumbersome when you paying via NFC.

I mean you can use Apple pay on the London underground and not having touch ID but instead facial recognition would be ridiculous when you're trying to navigate rush hour :)

I've a few mates who have the Samsung where the finger print scanner is on the back and they all hate it. They always hit the camera shutter and can only use 1 or 2 fingers, no thumb unless holding it with 2 hands.

Can't see them dropping TouchID. For starters I think most banks may remove the option from the banking apps
 
And how would you line up your face in order to get it on the phone screen? The phone has to be really really close to the NFC reader. Tall people would have to hunch down to get their face on the screen. Short people would have to stand on their tip toes, etc. etc. etc. Apple Pay would quickly be abandoned due to the difficulty.
With facial recognition the way it works today, that is very true. I'm wondering if Apple has found a way around this and has facial recognition working at greater distances.
 
They should push the phone off if Touch ID isn't ready, JMHO - that decision needed to be made a while ago though.

However at this point they've already committed to buying millions of these things, so if no Touch ID in the display, I like the Sony idea of Touch ID in the power button or top/side of the phone solution (no need to flip the phone over to unlock).

That said, if they don't have Touch ID in the display working, they won't have nearly the problems of overwhelming demand of the 8 as they would otherwise - I won't be buying an 8 and will instead go for a 7s and a bezel Touch ID sensor.

Nothing about wireless charging....
 
So to sum for everyone: MR click-bait headline, nothing to see here. All those in the States go back to celebrating the Fourth. Thanks.
 
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Seriously, Macrumors slow news day?

I thought this was a legitimate rumors web site, not "random person with no inside knowledge just rambles guesses" web/blog posts.
You know exactly that Ming-Chi Kuo is pretty much the opposite of a "random person with no inside knowledge [that] just rambles guesses". But you find it emotionally opportune to lie about it to deal with the disappointment his message creates with you.

I leave it to you to find a name for people with such behaviour.
 
People are attacking the source, but it is MR you should be attacking. No where in his predictions did he state Touch ID would be left out as others have mentioned. Click bait headline.

Edit: after reading 9to5mac it appears KGI has said no Touch ID at all. Didn't see that same quote in the MR article. Who knows what the real story is here.
Yeah same happened to me. I thought it was click bate, but then read the 9to5Mac article and it does appear, by their reading of KGI's statements anyway, that there is no TouchID at all. Hopefully KGI is wrong on this one.
 
why would they remove touch id ?

The article stated that it was his opinion that it would be omitted due to the technical challenge ove making it work through the screen and the addition of other biometric security measures making it unnecessary.
 
I would be actually happy if this crappy Touch ID goes away. Doesn’t work 70% of the time anyway if your fingers are not perfectly dry.
Youre using it wrong. TouchID doesnt work with wet fingers, that's known. Dry your fingers off first. When dry, it works perfectly and is insanely fast.
 
OMG - The iPhone that lacks a headphone jack, cannot be connected to a Mac because it lacks a Usb-C connector, lacks a homebutton, and because of that lack, also lacks touch-ID...
But let me guess: it will feature the Apple exclusive LaserID: a beam that directly reads your DNA through gloves, dirt, mud, clothing.
Collecting your naked pictures that Apple will store with 448 bit encryption in a Secure Enclave (that only Luca Todesco can read and enjoy)
 
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Youre using it wrong. TouchID doesnt work with wet fingers, that's known. Dry your fingers off first. When dry, it works perfectly and is insanely fast.

It's so fast that I don't even have to think about it most of the time. That's what I like about touchID. I can activate my phone in the dead of night without thinking about it. Now I'll have to position the phone properly to sense my face, make sure I'm not wearing sunglasses, etc.
 
Yeah same happened to me. I thought it was click bate, but then read the 9to5Mac article and it does appear, by their reading of KGI's statements anyway, that there is no TouchID at all. Hopefully KGI is wrong on this one.
nowhere KGI says that TOUCHID is gone forever...nowhere...read again
 
Most of the times he has been. More than any other analyst, and definitely more than any other hobby speculator.
I hear that meme a lot - just about every financial blogger calls "Ming Chi Kuo" the most accurate forecaster on the planet - but ask where they get their data, and there's nothing but silence. While I agree he's probably the most quoted iPhone forecaster on the planet - and maybe even the most prolific, I highly doubt the claim that he's the most accurate. If you think he is, 'show me the money!'.
 
iPhone 7 takes away headphone jack
iPhone 7s takes away touch ID.

Anyone noticing a pattern?
Bravery.

Of course, it isn't unlike Apple to make what they think people need, not what people ask for. If (and that is a big "if") touchID is really missing, then Apple would have had to have found a way to make the facial recognition significantly better so it is completely passive & automatic when make a payment. There would still have to be some quick, effortless authentication mechanism or the iPhone 8 will be a huge step in the wrong direction.
 
nowhere KGI says that TOUCHID is gone forever...nowhere...read again

This point has been made many times in this thread, but I don't personally think it's any coincidence that he talks about TouchID removal in point 2 and his very next point number 3 concerns the new advanced 3D facial recognition capabilities.

I feel there is a direct correlation here, as it seems does the OP of this thread.
 
The article stated that it was his opinion that it would be omitted due to the technical challenge ove making it work through the screen and the addition of other biometric security measures making it unnecessary.

Thats entirely stupid though. Having a really long password makes touchID unnecessary but we have touchID for a reason.

I don't want to have to be in a well lit area and pick up my phone so the camera can see me. I don't want to have to take off sunglasses or a hat so it recognises me. I don't care if it can recognise with with a disguise on to be honest. I won't buy a phone that requires me to pick it up and point it at my face to unlock it.

Apple are not retarded. They won't get rid of touchID and I am almost certain they wouldn't move it to the rear of the device. The worst they will do is put it on the power button at the side. Even then I would be surprised.
 
6 user. I have no issues with iOS10.

I used a 6 for 10 minutes - it was a friend's phone that's basically a glorified pager for work, nearly stock in OS configuration (no apps). The FPS between app switching was 5-15fps, noticeably bad. I could easily tell the performance was severely lagging. Have fun running iOS 11 on that thing.
 
Kuo's new predictions also continue to corroborate the iPhone 8's lack of a physical Home button, but he goes on to state that Touch ID will not be incorporated into the OLED smartphone's display. The analyst didn't provide any mention of Touch ID moving elsewhere on the iPhone 8, like the back of the device or lock button as has been previously rumored and largely debunked.

To follow and read the links provided in the above paragraph alone highlights to me the contrasting interests which exist from different perspectives. There is Apple who are interested in producing the best product they can in the face of keen competition, there are suppliers who are interested in optimizing production revenue from their supplies, and there are financial analysts who will write from the perspective of the investment market.

From my own perspective, happily there are years of advancement and improving features to come in the future capabilities of the iPhone and other smart phones. So, let's wait and see from a consumer perspective what is revealed by Apple in a few months time, and make individual choices or decisions based on our preferences then.
 
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