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Ming-Chi Kuo Says iPhone X Supercycle Won't Really Happen Until 2018

The so-called Super Cycle will NEVER happen at the current List prices !

Only thing that may change that, is if third-party apps figure-out how to leverage some of the newer Tech in some of the newer iPhone.

Otherwise, Apple needs an upgraded SE to trigger a Super Cycle.

BTW, where are all those cool AR apps Tim Cook promised ??? ... I've yet to see a single one in the iOS App Store that impresses !
 
What do they gain by removing the notch and leaving it a rectangle? Oh right, it looks like an Android from more than 3 feet away.
 
Was in Best Buy a few days ago and was surprised that they had iPhone 8s in. As an iPhone 6s owner, other than the camera there's no compelling reason to upgrade to the 8 and the 8+ is just too big and heavy. The 10 is compelling but when I think about the size - I still haven't seen one, it seems like it'll just be slightly bigger than the 8 without bezzles at DOUBLE the cost. As a long time Apple user I can't continue to support the iPhone. Heck the design on my never used Galaxy S4 still looks and feels better than the iPhone.

Especially when I looked at the Galaxy S8 and that phone looks gorgeous, feels nice in the hand, has the "same Specs" as the iPhone X and is only $700. Other than the fact that my music is locked into iTunes - because iTunes f'ed up my Music Library numerous times there's no compelling reason to continue to support iPhone. Other than my blind, unreturned, "loyalty" to iOS. I find myself really looking forward to seeing what the Galaxy S9 will bring in the spring.
 
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By 2018 there will be many better alternatives. Hard to believe there will be a super cycle.
 
mmm1345 said:
Was in Best Buy a few days ago and was surprised that they had iPhone 8s in. As an iPhone 6s owner, other than the camera there's no compelling reason to upgrade to the 8 and the 8+ is just too big and heavy. The 10 is compelling but when I think about the size - I still haven't seen one, it seems like it'll just be slightly bigger than the 8 without bezzles at DOUBLE the cost. As a long time Apple user I can't continue to support the iPhone. Heck the design on my never used Galaxy S4 still looks and feels better than the iPhone.

Especially when I looked at the Galaxy S8 and that phone looks gorgeous, feels nice in the hand, has the "same Specs" as the iPhone X and is only $700. Other than the fact that my music is locked into iTunes - because iTunes f'ed up my Music Library numerous times there's no compelling reason to continue to support iPhone. Other than my blind, unreturned, "loyalty" to iOS. I find myself really looking forward to seeing what the Galaxy S9 will bring in the spring.
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Pretty sad people think an iPhone is heavy, I prefer heavier phones, phones are way too thin now
 
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mmm1345 said:
Was in Best Buy a few days ago and was surprised that they had iPhone 8s in. As an iPhone 6s owner, other than the camera there's no compelling reason to upgrade to the 8 and the 8+ is just too big and heavy. The 10 is compelling but when I think about the size - I still haven't seen one, it seems like it'll just be slightly bigger than the 8 without bezzles at DOUBLE the cost. As a long time Apple user I can't continue to support the iPhone. Heck the design on my never used Galaxy S4 still looks and feels better than the iPhone.

Especially when I looked at the Galaxy S8 and that phone looks gorgeous, feels nice in the hand, has the "same Specs" as the iPhone X and is only $700. Other than the fact that my music is locked into iTunes - because iTunes f'ed up my Music Library numerous times there's no compelling reason to continue to support iPhone. Other than my blind, unreturned, "loyalty" to iOS. I find myself really looking forward to seeing what the Galaxy S9 will bring in the spring.
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Exactly. Over here even the iPhone 7 (not talking about the 7 plus) is more expensive than an Galaxy S8. You can argue that iOS 11 is better than Android but there are more who disagree and don’t like iOS. For me Apple lost the phone race already and Apple priced itself out of the market. Not to mention Siri, the lack of Apple Pay, the lack of services specific for Apple. Too expensive not competitive and too late!
 
pat500000 said:
Well, if I can't get my hands on X then I'll just move on to next phone: Pixel 2 XL with pixel earbuds.
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You might want to consider the LG V30. Expandable storage and wireless charging in a smaller form factor. Earbuds will work with it.
 
Just guessing - I don't think the 10 will start a super cycle. I think if they had released the 10 and the 10 plus at the same time, this would have started the super cycle.

That having been said, I am planning on signing up for the Apple Upgrade Program and ordering a 10. When the plus comes out next year, that's what i'll upgrade to. I've had the 6 plus for years and as a bigger dude, i prefer a bigger phone.
 
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What do they gain by removing the notch and leaving it a rectangle? Oh right, it looks like an Android from more than 3 feet away.
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You gain a cleaner look, though you are then forced to accurately report the diagonal size of the display. With the notch, they are kind of cheating since those corners are useless space. Personally, I don't think Steve Jobs would ever have approved the notch, and I'm sure he'd be pretty annoyed with a lot of what is going on now... like the bazillion models of iPhones with three completely different designs. This is a new Apple for sure! (which is why my signature has morphed from all Apple to very little Apple).
 
dampfnudel said:
I doubt that notch will go away. Apple will try to use that design for at least one more year, if not longer. If they did remove it, it would be an indirect acknowledgment that it was a bad looking design.
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Face with tougher & tougher competitions, Apple is trying to influence consumers subconsciously that iPhones are still top notch products.
 

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dominiongamma said:
Pretty sad people think an iPhone is heavy, I prefer heavier phones, phones are way too thin now
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I don't think I was making a value judgement on the weight. More of the fact that Plus design is just clunky as heck. I thought the S8 felt a little too thin to me.
 
Nothing new here... Alternate years get big jumps. People plan their two-year contracts or payment plans accordingly. The rest of us who want the latest sell the phones and upgrade when something new comes out, regardless of the cycle.
 
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Naa. Most people won't be getting an X. Most will be due an upgrade next year, when the X design will be the standard and Apple have worked out how to build enough of them, quickly enough.
 
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Naa. Most people won't be getting an X. Most will be due an upgrade next year, when the X design will be the standard and Apple have worked out how to build enough of them, quickly enough.
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The other thing is cost... at $999 it's an immediate no from "the sane." My wife and mom/dad are "your average iPhone user" and all they said is "they make it $300 more because they can, no thanks." Hard as it is for MacRumor's geeky readers to believe, there's a lot more practical customers than we'd expect who don't favor a $2-400 price hike in the name of new.
 
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I think most people will be buying the x given the amount of units said to be available which will get better come end of the year I imagine. Hopefully it isn’t in high and demand and I can get one on launch day.
 
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