Ming-Chi Kuo Says iPhone X Supercycle Won't Really Happen Until 2018

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  1. 840quadra Moderator


    Staff Member

    Feb 1, 2005
    Twin Cities Minnesota
    I have no real hopes in this. Love my iPhone 7, and ordered a new pixel for my android needs.

    I guess I am looking into the predicted trickle down phones for 2018 with X features.
  2. niji, Oct 6, 2017
    Last edited: Oct 6, 2017

    niji macrumors 6502a


    Feb 9, 2003

    most posters are not reading the article correctly.

    its not saying anything about a delay involving the X model announced last month.

    its saying that the the premium iPhone model that will be announced September 2018 is the model that will prompt a huge number of people to upgrade from prior models.

    previously many analysts were saying that the model announced last month would cause that. and they are backtracking on that now. indicating that a more normal number of people will be upgrading this cycle, but not more than usual.
  3. ABC5S Suspended


    Sep 10, 2013
    I’m waiting for the Red/Matt black or Rose gold iPhone 10s/11 ;)
  4. Jax44 macrumors 6502a


    Jul 24, 2010
    Carmel, California
    You can always pay a few months to get back on cycle.
  5. noles1983 macrumors regular

    Aug 9, 2009
    San Antonio, TX
    Please Apple, fix the perma-turd for next year and I will buy one.
  6. noekozz macrumors 6502a


    Jun 29, 2010
    This is part of the reason I decided to upgrade to the 8+. From the looks of it, I suspect that features from the iPhone X will trickle down to the other two models. Could care less for facial ID TBH. If I can have an OLED screen on an 8+ I would be in heaven. Either way, coming from a 6+ to an 8+ is enough of an improvement for me to keep me occupied until next year.
  7. JPack, Oct 6, 2017
    Last edited: Oct 6, 2017

    JPack macrumors 68000


    Mar 27, 2017
    Actually 2018F is 2018 Forecast.

    Does no one here read economic or finance reports? No one in the community uses "fall." Instead, quarters are used, e.g. Q3'18.

    (1) TrueDepth Camera's production issues will be significantly addressed in 2018F; (2) new models launched in 2018F will enjoy a longer sales period than those unveiled in 2017;

    Those events haven't happened yet and Ming-Chi Kuo is forecasting them.
  8. criticasm macrumors member

    Sep 15, 2017
    ugh Sick of reading this cult iSheep BS saying the notch making it look iconic & distinctively iPhone. As if all previous iPhones weren't glaringly bloody obvious they were iPhones. The notch is NOT iconic, it's just intrusive. To create the notch involves cutting the oled where 50% of early production failed (causing a price hike & one of many component delays connected to the notch) even now they claim 20-25% of screens fail due to the notch. Add in that Apple did a deal w/ Japan Display for new gen LCD's that can't be "notched" & you can see future iPhones will be notch-less. The X is a special edition like the 20th anniversary Mac in 1997 which had a super high price too. The notch is not the future & inflation pending neither is the $1000+ price.
  9. STC1709 macrumors 6502

    May 27, 2009
    you people who think the notch is ugly or it will go away need to get over it. The notch is never going anywhere within the next 3-5 years. This design has set a precedemt of what all models will look like. Either get over the notch or wait a while. Theyre not going to do a redesign then all of sudden do away with it, apple has never done that
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    only the people on macrumors actually give a **** about the stupid notch or nerds for that matter, most people will not give a **** and thats what apple cares about
  10. Gnu0307 macrumors newbie


    Oct 6, 2017
    Not true. It means fiscal year 2018 which for Apple is October through September
  11. JPack macrumors 68000


    Mar 27, 2017
    Nope. It stands for forecast.

    Fiscal would be FY 2018 or 2018 FY.

    The incorrect information being posted is quite disturbing. It really shows the lack of basic education by some posters.
  12. roeiz macrumors 65816


    Sep 13, 2010
    interesting. first time i hear this. it shed a very different light on the possible next phones batch next year. didn't realize the notch is even harder to manufacture. you sure 'baut dat?
  13. macfacts macrumors 68020


    Oct 7, 2012
    I think a better way to look at it is ask if people really like the notch, are they willing to pay extra for it or pay a normal price for a rectangle OLED screen.
  14. Jax44 macrumors 6502a


    Jul 24, 2010
    Carmel, California
  15. convergent macrumors 68030


    May 6, 2008
    And then some are "super cycling" to another platform that doesn't have a notch, and does have a headphone jack and fingerprint reader. Will be interesting to see how this plays out from the sidelines this round.
  16. Mike MA macrumors 68000

    Mike MA

    Sep 21, 2012
    At least from than on you can call yourself a happy member of the yet unknown Supercycle community.
  17. can$rules macrumors member

    Jul 29, 2014
    If you're keeping the phone for three years it is more to your advantage to wait a couple months to get the x+1 version.
  18. Applebot1 macrumors 6502a

    Jan 4, 2014
    If there are significant delays on orders in the magnitude of months then you have to question wtf Apple have been doing all this time. We are talking about the richest tech company.
  19. jonnysods macrumors 603


    Sep 20, 2006
    There & Back Again
    I keep saying to myself 'get a used 7+ and wait it out, let them get the gen 2 FaceID in there'.

    Then I see that pic of the white/silver X and I just start drooling...
  20. mashinhead macrumors 68020

    Oct 7, 2003
    I think it will push back the new iPhone cycle.
  21. Applebot1 macrumors 6502a

    Jan 4, 2014
    The ‘notch’ all for fancy emoji and face I.D.
  22. MrGimper macrumors 601


    Sep 22, 2012
    Andover, UK
    Bit extreme. Don’t know about finance so you’re an idiot? Don’t bust your ass when you fall off your high-horse.
  23. farewelwilliams macrumors 68000

    Jun 18, 2014
    thats not going to happen
  24. cbaca51 macrumors member

    Sep 11, 2016
    So there is gonna be an updated X in the beginning of 2018? I'm confused. Like a plus size or a new color or what?

    Making me second guess if I should preorder later this month
  25. dampfnudel macrumors 68030

    Aug 14, 2010
    Brooklyn, NY
    I doubt that notch will go away. Apple will try to use that design for at least one more year, if not longer. If they did remove it, it would be an indirect acknowledgment that it was a bad looking design.

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