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MLB 2009 Season

yg17 said:
Manny is a worthless piece of garbage and so is any team that would allow him to play.
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Pretty silly to call him "worthless", when he clearly has value. Certainly he does a lot of things to make people dislike him, and one can argue that he isn't worth the trouble, but that doesn't make him worthless.


Teh Don Ditty said:
The Dodgers are in a weak division.
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How so? The W-L records of the teams in the NL West are very similar to those in the AL East, supposedly the best division in baseball. Sure, the NL as a whole isn't as strong as the AL, but the difference between the strongest and weakest divisions in MLB can't be as large as people seem to want to believe.


leomac08 said:
The last 20 games i have seen, on average the dodgers outscore their opponents by 8 runs. We are averaging well.
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You've been pretty fortunate in which 20 games you watched. In the last 20 games they've played, the Dodgers are 8-12. In the last 30, they're 14-16. If you're a good luck charm, please watch them more often!
 
Wow, I've missed quite a bit.

- Dodgers are best in baseball? Standings don't seem to agree.

- Manny isn't worthless. If the Yankees had the chance to sign him (short term), I'd go for it. For all his drama, the man can hit.

- I don't know if I'd consider Tex's turn-around solely based on A-Rod's return. I think it is more of him warming up as he typically posts poor numbers at the start and heats up. While A-Rod is still A-Rod, he isn't 100%.

- If the Giants had some better bats, I'd consider them more dangerous than the Dodgers. Lincecum and Cain in a short series? Ouch.

- Boston, I won't count them out until the magic # is reached. But they don't seem like the lock that people had predicted before the season started. I think they can attribute the season to two players: Dice-K & Ortiz.

- Top 5 Hitters: Mauer, Pujols, Ichiro, Jeter and Chipper.

- I'm going to all 3 Yankees - A's games in Oakland. Prey I make it home OK. ;)
 
TSE said:
That doesn't mean anything when it comes to who the best hitters are, he is maybe in the top 10, but definitely on the lower part of that list. He is grossly overpaid and overrated. Justin Morneau plays just as good D as he does and has just as good of a bat, better in some regards and worse in others, and he does this without the price.
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You have obviously not seen him play. He is a great fielder and a good clutch hitter. He might be the best pickup the Yankees have made in years. I would come close to comparing him to Don Mattingly.

InvalidUserID said:
I'm going to all 3 Yankees - A's games in Oakland. Prey I make it home OK. ;)
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Awesome, you better share some pics.:cool:
 
aloofman said:
You've been pretty fortunate in which 20 games you watched. In the last 20 games they've played, the Dodgers are 8-12. In the last 30, they're 14-16. If you're a good luck charm, please watch them more often!
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i only watch home games,!:D at dodgers stadium.

visiting games, i don't have time:D
 
yg17 said:
Not much of a fan then, are you? ;)
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Dodgers lost. I long for the days when it was Garvey at 1st, Lopes at 2nd, Russell at short, and Cey at 3rd. Throw in some Dusty Baker and Reggie Williams and Rick Monday. FTW forever with Kirk Gibson.

Vlad hit two out, did the Cubs lose? Boston fan here as well, I grew up with Rice, Fred Lynn and C.Y.
 
jecapaga said:
Dodgers lost. I long for the days when it was Garvey at 1st, Lopes at 2nd, Russell at short, and Cey at 3rd. Throw in some Dusty Baker and Reggie Williams and Rick Monday. FTW forever with Kirk Gibson.
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Reggie Williams? Whodat? Maybe you're thinking Reggie Smith.

And the Dodgers are more than welcome to have Dusty Baker back, so long as he becomes the manager. :D
 
leomac08 said:
i only watch home games,!:D at dodgers stadium.

visiting games, i don't have time:D
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Excluding last night's game, it looks to me like they've gone 10-10 in their last 20 home games. Again, not that impressive. And yes, you're not much of a fan if you don't pay attention to road games. Hopefully you were joking.



jecapaga said:
Dodgers lost. I long for the days when it was Garvey at 1st, Lopes at 2nd, Russell at short, and Cey at 3rd. Throw in some Dusty Baker and Reggie Williams and Rick Monday. FTW forever with Kirk Gibson.
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While it was a happy time in Dodgertown, we're never going to see another infield that stays together and produces for seven years in a row. That era is gone. You might as well wish to have Ebbets Field back.


Silencio said:
Reggie Williams? Whodat? Maybe you're thinking Reggie Smith.

And the Dodgers are more than welcome to have Dusty Baker back, so long as he becomes the manager. :D
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Reggie Smith was a highly underrated hitter in his day and has had a nice side job the last 20 years as hitting coach for movie actors.

The funny thing is, there was a time that I wouldn't have minded having Dusty as manager. (The Davey Johnson era comes to mind.) But these days I'd almost rather have him playing left field again. :p
 
jecapaga said:
Reggie Williams came later..I meant Reggie Smith.
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The guy didn't even get 400 PA for the Dodgers; no wonder I didn't remember him. That would be like me as a Giants fan pining for Mark Leonard or something.

And yeah, Reggie Smith was pretty rad. Even as a Giants fan I respected the guy, despite his part in an infamous Dodgers versus fans brawl at the 'Stick. He did have the good sense to play one season for the Giants in '82. :D
 
So Smoltz is a Cardinal now...I'm not sure if I should be happy or worried about that. The last Red Sox throaway we got, Julio Lugo, turned out to be a huge asset to the team, let's hope Smoltz can be the same.
 
yg17 said:
So Smoltz is a Cardinal now...I'm not sure if I should be happy or worried about that. The last Red Sox throaway we got, Julio Lugo, turned out to be a huge asset to the team, let's hope Smoltz can be the same.
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Wow. I thought Smoltzy would hang them up. He was getting MURDERED each time out.

Maybe the NL is what he needs.
 
Teh Don Ditty said:
Wow. I thought Smoltzy would hang them up. He was getting MURDERED each time out.

Maybe the NL is what he needs.
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Maybe....We have 4 strong pitchers and the 5th in the rotation, whether it was Wellemeyer, Boggs or Thompson, have been iffy, so Smoltz can't be any worse.

I say let him start, if that one start doesn't work out, try him out in the bullpen.
 
yg17 said:
So Smoltz is a Cardinal now...I'm not sure if I should be happy or worried about that. The last Red Sox throaway we got, Julio Lugo, turned out to be a huge asset to the team, let's hope Smoltz can be the same.
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Lugo simply couldn't cut it here..The fans, the media etc. He wilted in interviews and couldn't handle the pressure. Ala Edgar Renteiria...Smoltz, in laymen's terms,sucked here. His last start against the Yankees,featured an implosion. He showed little to nothing in spring training. Seemed like a classic case of "one more shot". How many times do you give a guy "one more shot"?
 
fotografica said:
Lugo simply couldn't cut it here..The fans, the media etc. He wilted in interviews and couldn't handle the pressure. Ala Edgar Renteiria...Smoltz, in laymen's terms,sucked here. His last start against the Yankees,featured an implosion. He showed little to nothing in spring training. Seemed like a classic case of "one more shot". How many times do you give a guy "one more shot"?
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Maybe Smoltz just needs what Lugo needs, an environment with less pressure and on a team that isn't constantly in the spotlight, because Lugo has been great. He's done a hell of a job on the field and while he's no power hitter, he's still done a great job at the plate and is perfect for the lead off or number 2 spot in front of Pujols.

It'll be an experiment all right, like I said, our number 5 spot in the rotation is weak so I don't think the Cardinals could be any worse off with him than we are now.

jecapaga said:
Lets ask Brett Favre!

Dodgers finally showed up against the Cards last night. Sheesh.
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It was more like our starter didn't show up last night (that #5 spot, although our rotation is out of order this week for whateve reason) so we'll see what happens tonight against Wainright ;)
 
yg17 said:
Maybe Smoltz just needs what Lugo needs, an environment with less pressure and on a team that isn't constantly in the spotlight, because Lugo has been great. He's done a hell of a job on the field and while he's no power hitter, he's still done a great job at the plate and is perfect for the lead off or number 2 spot in front of Pujols.

It'll be an experiment all right, like I said, our number 5 spot in the rotation is weak so I don't think the Cardinals could be any worse off with him than we are now.
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Could be,but SS is a lot different than a starting pitcher. Even a number 5 starter. . Smoltz just didn't seem to have it here,stuff wise. Change of scenery may help,but honestly,don't know how much tread is left on the tires...
 
yg17 said:
Maybe Smoltz just needs what Lugo needs, an environment with less pressure and on a team that isn't constantly in the spotlight, because Lugo has been great. He's done a hell of a job on the field and while he's no power hitter, he's still done a great job at the plate and is perfect for the lead off or number 2 spot in front of Pujols.

It'll be an experiment all right, like I said, our number 5 spot in the rotation is weak so I don't think the Cardinals could be any worse off with him than we are now.



It was more like our starter didn't show up last night (that #5 spot, although our rotation is out of order this week for whateve reason) so we'll see what happens tonight against Wainright ;)
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Good point. He was getting hammered all over the place.
 
Ugggg..To top it off,we get to get Frank Viola filling in on the road for NESN. That Lawn Guyland accent is driving me sh*thouse..
 
yg17 said:
Maybe Smoltz just needs what Lugo needs, an environment with less pressure and on a team that isn't constantly in the spotlight, because Lugo has been great. He's done a hell of a job on the field and while he's no power hitter, he's still done a great job at the plate and is perfect for the lead off or number 2 spot in front of Pujols.

It'll be an experiment all right, like I said, our number 5 spot in the rotation is weak so I don't think the Cardinals could be any worse off with him than we are now.
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i think smoltz is just a washed up 42 year old pitcher. i doubt going to the cardinals will bring back his prime material, although i suggest you put him in as a set up or closer role, he tends to fall apart after 2 innings.
 
furcalchick said:
i think smoltz is just a washed up 42 year old pitcher. i doubt going to the cardinals will bring back his prime material, although i suggest you put him in as a set up or closer role, he tends to fall apart after 2 innings.
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The Cardinal fan in me wants you to be wrong, but the sensible person in me knows you're right :(

I didn't even know he was that old....42 years is old, especially for a pitcher. I think at this point he just needs to spend his time on the golf course and not the mound.
 
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