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MLB 2009 Season

American League

East
New York Yankees
Boston Red Sox (10)

Central
Detroit Tigers
Minnesota Twins (13)
Chicago White Sox (9)

West
Los Angeles Angels
Texas Rangers (9)
Seattle Mariners (4)

Wild Card
Boston Red Sox
Texas Rangers (10)
Seattle Mariners (5)
Minnesota Twins (4)
Tampa Bay Rays (3)


National League

East
Philadelphia Phillies
Florida Marlins (8)
Atlanta Braves (8)

Central
St. Louis Cardinals
Chicago Cubs (6)
Milwaukee Brewers (2)

West
Los Angeles Dodgers
Colorado Rockies (10)
San Francisco Giants (8)

Wild Card
Colorado Rockies
San Francisco Giants (13)
Florida Marlins (11)
Atlanta Braves (11)
Chicago Cubs (9)
Milwaukee Brewers (5)
Houston Astros (3)
 
I want to know who makes the schedule. Seriously, we have to go to the west coast with only 2 weeks left in the season 2 play 6 games while the red sux are playing the easiest schedule known to man.

Next year we open and close the season in Boston, why do they insist on starting the season up north. Play the first 2 weeks in warmer climates.
 
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to Joba's position in the rotation........
 
MacNut said:
I want to know who makes the schedule. Seriously, we have to go to the west coast with only 2 weeks left in the season 2 play 6 games while the red sux are playing the easiest schedule known to man.

Next year we open and close the season in Boston, why do they insist on starting the season up north. Play the first 2 weeks in warmer climates.
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waaaaahh

the schedule changes every year. get over it.
 
Well, the Cubs proved tonight that buying off umpires is cheaper than buying talent, because they can clearly afford the former :mad:
 
elimination numbers after 9/20

after a good weekend in baseball, here's your updated elimination numbers. i see only one actual 'down to the wire' race in the al central, expect all of the other spots to be locked in within the next week barring a collapse by a lead team. btw, have the yankees clinched a playoff spot yet?

American League

East
New York Yankees
Boston Red Sox (9)

Central
Detroit Tigers
Minnesota Twins (11)
Chicago White Sox (7)

West
Los Angeles Angels
Texas Rangers (7)
Seattle Mariners (2)

Wild Card
Boston Red Sox
Texas Rangers (7)
Seattle Mariners (2)
Minnesota Twins (1)
Tampa Bay Rays (1)


National League

East
Philadelphia Phillies
Florida Marlins (6)
Atlanta Braves (6)

Central
St. Louis Cardinals
Chicago Cubs (4)
Milwaukee Brewers (1)

West
Los Angeles Dodgers
Colorado Rockies (8)
San Francisco Giants (4)

Wild Card
Colorado Rockies
San Francisco Giants (9)
Florida Marlins (8)
Atlanta Braves (8)
Chicago Cubs (6)
Milwaukee Brewers (3)
 
MacNut said:
I want to know who makes the schedule. Seriously, we have to go to the west coast with only 2 weeks left in the season 2 play 6 games while the red sux are playing the easiest schedule known to man.

Next year we open and close the season in Boston, why do they insist on starting the season up north. Play the first 2 weeks in warmer climates.
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Who would get to play the first two weeks in warmer climates? There aren't that many warm-weather teams that can host home games at the same time. Or is it just the Yankees that should get a better schedule? Since the Yankees pretty much have the division wrapped up and the Red Sox are locked into the wild card, complaining about the schedule seems a bit silly.

You're right there are some weird scheduling quirks though. Tomorrow the Dodgers start a nine-game road trip to Washington, Pittsburgh, and San Diego. The Nats and Pirates in late September? Really? Those are the rivalries you want to see at the end of the season? (It's not the first time either. They played the Pirates during the stretch drive a year or two ago too.) Very odd. Obviously the Nats and Pirates have to play somebody this time of year, but you'd think it would be against their own division.

On the other hand, I can't complain about LA having to play the Pirates while the Rockies play St. Louis. It means we're five games ahead even though we played better teams already.
 
Take teams like Cleveland, every year they get games that are snowed out because they start the season at home. These games always have to be made up and screw with the schedule down the road. Why not just have them play in warmer climates the first week or 2. It just sees that they could tweak the schedule enough to have these teams either open in domes or play in warmer cities.

I also hate the unbalanced schedule. Teams should be playing in their division more. Especially during the end of the season when seedings are most important. East coast teams should not be out west and vise versa the last 10 games.
 
MacNut said:
Take teams like Cleveland, every year they get games that are snowed out because they start the season at home. These games always have to be made up and screw with the schedule down the road. Why not just have them play in warmer climates the first week or 2. It just sees that they could tweak the schedule enough to have these teams either open in domes or play in warmer cities.
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for some reason, teams like the marlins and the rays and the braves seem to always start on the road, when it's less likely to rain in those parts. unlike most of the country, it rains the most in florida during the summer (afternoon showers). but i think they are worried about poor attendance in those cities. send teams like the indians and the twins (they are playing outdoors now) on road heavy aprils, since they have the worst weather during those months. and has anyone suggested a bit more west coast trips early on?

MacNut said:
I also hate the unbalanced schedule. Teams should be playing in their division more. Especially during the end of the season when seedings are most important. East coast teams should not be out west and vise versa the last 10 games.
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teams already play their opponents 18 times a year, and can eat up half their schedule. unless you are talking about more divisional opponents towards the end of the season. and also, some teams will have to play outside of their division, with most teams in odd numbered divisions.
 
I know interleauge play screwed with the schedule some. Maybe that is why the west coast trips are lopsided. Division rivals should meet 4 times a year home and away. The schedule goes 2 months and the big rivals don't meet. Yankees Red Sox played 8 games the first month of the season, then in June and then they don't meet again until late August it throws everything out of whack.
 
It's pretty unfair to ask some teams to delay their home opener until weeks into the season. Long road trips are more difficult to schedule than short ones, so it would be adding more complications to the schedule than there are now. Many northern cities can have cold weather pretty much anytime in April, so moving their home games to the middle or end of April doesn't necessarily solve that problem. Somehow baseball has started in April for a century and still managed to play their games.

The unbalanced schedule isn't going to please people and neither would a balanced one. Baseball (and the individual teams) want rivalry games at the start and end of the season because that's when attention is higher. Would I really want more games against Florida and Houston? No, I want to see the Dodgers play SF and SD more because those are the teams they have rivalries with. I suspect most Yankees fans would rather play more games against Boston than Minnesota or Seattle. And if you want more interdivision games, then it starts getting really screwy for strength of schedule issues.

The really unfair part of the schedule is interleague play. Whichever NL division has to play the AL East is at a disadvantage in the wild card race, for example. And don't get me started on the bizarre tradition of expanding rosters for October, which means you're playing teams that have a different set of players than in the rest of the season.
 
MacNut said:
I know interleauge play screwed with the schedule some. Maybe that is why the west coast trips are lopsided. Division rivals should meet 4 times a year home and away. The schedule goes 2 months and the big rivals don't meet. Yankees Red Sox played 8 games the first month of the season, then in June and then they don't meet again until late August it throws everything out of whack.
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eight times?! that's about 100 games of 162. people already complain that the teams meet too much in division, for some teams, that's going to make things insane. i'm in favor of the schedule being slightly less unbalanced, more like it is in the nfl.
 
InvalidUserID said:
Yankees FINALLY win in Anaheim and clinch playoff spot. w00t!

Oh and Grienke better win the Cy Young.
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Lets win one more for good measure.

And what is Cashman going on about saying Jaba has to step up. He was doing fine until they got involved and started messing with his pitch counts. If anything it is Cashman's fault not Jaba's.
 
update on elimination numbers

American League

East
New York Yankees
Boston Red Sox (6)

Central
Detroit Tigers
Minnesota Twins (10)
Chicago White Sox (4)

West
Los Angeles Angels
Texas Rangers (5)
Seattle Mariners (1)

Wild Card
Boston Red Sox
Texas Rangers (6)
Seattle Mariners (2)
Minnesota Twins (1)


National League

East
Philadelphia Phillies
Atlanta Braves (5)
Florida Marlins (4)


Central
St. Louis Cardinals
Chicago Cubs (2)

West
Los Angeles Dodgers
Colorado Rockies (7)
San Francisco Giants (2)

Wild Card
Colorado Rockies
San Francisco Giants (7)
Atlanta Braves (7)
Florida Marlins (6)
Chicago Cubs (5)
 
through 9/23 games

American League

East
New York Yankees (in playoffs)
Boston Red Sox (5)

Central
Detroit Tigers
Minnesota Twins (9)
Chicago White Sox (2)

West
Los Angeles Angels
Texas Rangers (5)

Wild Card
Boston Red Sox
Texas Rangers (5)


National League

East
Philadelphia Phillies
Atlanta Braves (5)
Florida Marlins (4)

Central
St. Louis Cardinals
Chicago Cubs (1)

West
Los Angeles Dodgers
Colorado Rockies (6)
San Francisco Giants (2)

Wild Card
Colorado Rockies
San Francisco Giants (7)
Atlanta Braves (7)
Florida Marlins (6)
Chicago Cubs (4)

the nl wild card could get interesting, or it could be a dud. let's observe though the weekend. al central is the other race that could be. all of the others are just about over.
 
MacNut said:
I also hate the unbalanced schedule. Teams should be playing in their division more. Especially during the end of the season when seedings are most important. East coast teams should not be out west and vise versa the last 10 games.
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Playing in their division more? The Yankees played more than 40% of their games within the AL East this year. I'll agree that sometimes teams should play in their division more at the end of the season, but in general they already play more than enough in their division for my taste.
 
rhsgolfer33 said:
Playing in their division more? The Yankees played more than 40% of their games within the AL East this year. I'll agree that sometimes teams should play in their division more at the end of the season, but in general they already play more than enough in their division for my taste.
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Rather than play a few games out west at a time, schedule 2 big west coast trips one late spring one mid Summer each one 12 games. Add divisional games evenly throughout the season. That way you don't have large gaps of not meeting division rivals. Games in the middle of the country are not as far to travel so they can be placed anywhere in the schedule. There is no reason to just have a 6 game west coast trip.
 
furcalchick said:
East
Philadelphia Phillies
Atlanta Braves (5)
Florida Marlins (4)
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Brad Lidge reminds me a lot of a certain Mitch 'Wild Thing' Williams in some ways. ;) Both very talented pitchers, but both also had the uncanny ability to sometimes pick the wrong times to fall apart. :) Hard to believe that Lidge's gone from flawless to quite flawed in only a year.

Last night's Phillies-Marlins game had the Phils down to just one more out to go in the 9th -- while leading by a run -- to seal the win and cut the magic number to 4. Then Lidge donates two runs to the Marlins and Phils takes the loss. Sigh...
 
I'm also starting to wonder if perhaps Lidge might benefit from an extended stay with triple-A ball. A send down would probably wreck his confidence and trigger anger and resentment. But it'd also take the heat off him since he'd not be facing the pressure to not blow games and buy him time to work on pitching fundamentals again and rebuild confidence while being out of the spotlight. In the majors, a year is kinda too long to waste on someone who's basically having a season-long slump.

Or at least move him into a mid-relief role rather than closer.
 
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