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More Claims of Smaller, Square iPod Nano Next Week, Along With Possible 3G iPod Touch and iLife
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7" iPad with 3G makes much more sense than iPod touch with 3G. The 3G-capable Touch might cannibalize iPhone sales too much.
But I'm still happy if Apple makes such a brave move and releases iPod Touch with 3G. There might be a market for it too since everybody doesn't want an iPhone.
We will see.
But I'm still happy if Apple makes such a brave move and releases iPod Touch with 3G. There might be a market for it too since everybody doesn't want an iPhone.
We will see.
Is there even a data only hand held out there? If onto then apple may be the first to do so.
I didn't say I did now did I?
Here is the current upsell scheme:
You tend to forget the target markets for those products. Its much more thjen just waitng larger screens and cameras.
Again. Different target markets. The iMac is a DESKTOP while the macbook and macbook pro are NOTEBOOKS.
Again. Go back and read what some others have been saying. Apple would make just as much money as they do now if they add a pay as you go data plan to the mix
There you go again. Apple wants. You do not know what apple wants. So quit going around thinking you know everything that apple wants.
Also, most people are not like children. They will not decide "oh I wanted an iphone instead" because if they wanted one, they would have gotten one in the first place.
What does that have to do with anything?
I didn't say I did now did I?
Here is the current upsell scheme:
You tend to forget the target markets for those products. Its much more thjen just waitng larger screens and cameras.
Again. Different target markets. The iMac is a DESKTOP while the macbook and macbook pro are NOTEBOOKS.
Again. Go back and read what some others have been saying. Apple would make just as much money as they do now if they add a pay as you go data plan to the mix
There you go again. Apple wants. You do not know what apple wants. So quit going around thinking you know everything that apple wants.
Also, most people are not like children. They will not decide "oh I wanted an iphone instead" because if they wanted one, they would have gotten one in the first place.
What does that have to do with anything?
Pay as you go data plans exist in almost all countries, just combine them with an unlocked iPhone. The only thing Apple has to do is make the unlocked iPhone more easily available in more countries. The only reason they have not done so yet, is that it would make Apple look more greedy and not the carriers. Right know, the carriers get most of the flak for their high monthly charges, if people would be realising that as much as 40% of those charges go directly back to Apple, this would negatively reflect on the iPhone's image.
I think the new Nano will basically be a half sized Touch with a streamlined/optimized UI. Probably something more widget driven instead of full blown apps. It'll be just big enough to emulate the old style iPod click wheel via touch and just big enough for semi-usable soft keyboard. (not going to want to write an e-mail on it but maybe ~140 characters with generous auto-compltion/correction. Wifi + Bluetooth plus a decent resolution screen.
May I ask why?
What is the difference between an iPad WiFi and an iPad 3G?
> The 3G and GPS radio. Nothing fricking else.
What would thus be the difference between an iPod touch WiFi and an iPod touch 3G?
> The 3G and GPS radio.
And what is the difference between an iPod touch and an unlocked iPhone?
> The 3G and GPS radio and the Phone and Messages app.
Thus, what would be the difference between an iPod touch 3G and an unlocked iPhone?
> The Phone and Messages app.
I really fail to see why would get from an iPod touch 3G they cannot already get from an unlocked iPhone (apart from the hope of a cheaper price because the Phone app is omitted).
I can't be the only person, with a family, wondering about all these 3G [data] supporting iDevices and ditto contracts. Presumably one for the iPod Touch as well? That'll be great, but then we [I most certainly] need some sort of Apple [like] device supporting connections up to 28,8 Mbps [5,8 Mpbs up] since that is what Vodafone supports [soonish].
Yeah yeah. Neither the iPhone 4 nor the iPad 3G supports this kind of high speed 3G connections, but the thing is that the Vodafone USB dongle works a treat. It just looks plain ugly.
Yeah yeah. Neither the iPhone 4 nor the iPad 3G supports this kind of high speed 3G connections, but the thing is that the Vodafone USB dongle works a treat. It just looks plain ugly.
Let's be fair here, how much is an unlocked iPhone 4? £500 over here. Not every teenager's parents will buy one of those for chrimbo, nor will they enter a contract for £30 per month for their kids.
If the 3g iTouch comes in around £300 then they will sell like hotcakes to kids and those that can't afford a contract or to buy an unlocked iPhone.
When will the compare-ipod-with-another-ipod-to-see-how-big-it-is-disease end.
It does not tell me anything. Just stop.
Now you can smile again.
It does not tell me anything. Just stop.
Now you can smile again.
No iDVD? What the f' is that about? That sounds like some kind of insane rumor. iDVD is still relevant.
No iWork rumor? Usually iLife and iWork come out at the same time.
That Nano-Shuffle device is becoming more and more vexing. Only 4 more days and we see what Apple is doing. I'd assume it is a sub-$100 device, but I hope they keep the display-less shuffles and make them sub-$50 devices.
Remember that first shuffle 5 years ago? It was two or three times the volume of the current nano. Now look at what they are going to fit into something about the same size (iPTouch). Wait 5 years for the iPad; it'll be amazing.
No iWork rumor? Usually iLife and iWork come out at the same time.
That Nano-Shuffle device is becoming more and more vexing. Only 4 more days and we see what Apple is doing. I'd assume it is a sub-$100 device, but I hope they keep the display-less shuffles and make them sub-$50 devices.
Remember that first shuffle 5 years ago? It was two or three times the volume of the current nano. Now look at what they are going to fit into something about the same size (iPTouch). Wait 5 years for the iPad; it'll be amazing.
Is there anyone here that owns the iPad, but is thinking about buying one of the new iPod Touches?
I have the iPad 3G and a iPhone 4. After using the iPad, I don't want to play with apps on a smaller screen. The retina looks amazing, but I still prefer the iPad's screen for apps. So I only use my iPhone 4... as a phone! My iPad is always with me at work, college, in my car.
If my iPhone was an iPod Touch, I'd probably only use it to listen to music while I'm running. So it would be a huge waste for me.
Anyway, I just wanted to share...
I have the iPad 3G and a iPhone 4. After using the iPad, I don't want to play with apps on a smaller screen. The retina looks amazing, but I still prefer the iPad's screen for apps. So I only use my iPhone 4... as a phone! My iPad is always with me at work, college, in my car.
If my iPhone was an iPod Touch, I'd probably only use it to listen to music while I'm running. So it would be a huge waste for me.
Anyway, I just wanted to share...
See, the reason why I think there won't be an iPod touch 3G is exactly that it would be competing with unlocked iPhones and put a downward price pressure on the iPhone.
Guess what, if they sold the unlocked iPhone at £300, they would sell like hotcakes as well. All you say is, let's offer a drastically cheaper iPhone model (cut the price almost in half) but protect the current iPhone business by removing the Phone app.
And do you think people would accept the big price differential between an iPod touch 3G lets say at $500 and an iPhone at $900? Wouldn't the jail-breakers do everything to a Phone app onto the this iPod touch 3G?
Though I have serious doubts about Apple releasing a 3G enabled iPod, I would certainly buy one if available.
My wife uses our iPhone 3G most of the time, but when I do carry it about I have hardly ever use it to make a phone call. I do use it to check email, take pictures, and web surf. So for me, an iPod with a data plan would be a perfect match.
My wife uses our iPhone 3G most of the time, but when I do carry it about I have hardly ever use it to make a phone call. I do use it to check email, take pictures, and web surf. So for me, an iPod with a data plan would be a perfect match.
If this is true, than the iPod Shuffle will be discontinued and the new iPod Nano needs to become cheaper to around $ 100 and even better below.
It looks like there will be a shift in the productline where you could say that the smaller Nano will fill the gap of the Shuffle , and an entry level iPod Touch with a lower pricepoint will fill the gap the Nano leaves by moving down.
If the iPod Touch gets a 128 Gb version, than I see the iPod Classic disappearing too. This would also mean that the click wheel is history for Apple.
In total it would mean that the whole iPod product line is a small touchscreen iPod Nano and a wider range of iPod Touch with different specs.
It looks like there will be a shift in the productline where you could say that the smaller Nano will fill the gap of the Shuffle , and an entry level iPod Touch with a lower pricepoint will fill the gap the Nano leaves by moving down.
If the iPod Touch gets a 128 Gb version, than I see the iPod Classic disappearing too. This would also mean that the click wheel is history for Apple.
In total it would mean that the whole iPod product line is a small touchscreen iPod Nano and a wider range of iPod Touch with different specs.
Plus the iPad doesn't have phone capabilities, while the iPhone does, so iPhone to iPad is not totally an upsell.
Actually, I think this is a real possibility. Especially if you factor in the rumor about a 7" iPad coming soon.
If you give the new iPod Touch a 3G option, then you would essentially have a 3.5" iPad. If Apple comes out with a new 7" iPad (again with 3G) option, and continue with the existing 9.7" model, they have a complete lineup.
The iPod line gets refreshed, but continues solely as a music player.
Might happen. We'll see on the 1st.
If there's a front facing camera, maybe it'll have photo booth with effects a la Nintendo's (crappy) DSi.
I take it you are of the opinion that the Macbook is eating into the sales of macbook pro's then? After all, it's putting a downward pressure on the Macbook pro
Ok, here's my idea really quickly on the iPod Nano / Shuffle.
The idea behind both of these are the same, they want the smallest possible MP3 player.
But there's a conflict, they need to have both feedback and control for it.
In the iPod Shuffle, they decide to do away with the screen and use the voice feedback instead.
The iPod Nano, they go with the screen and click wheel.
Let's try something else instead now, what if the feedback and control were the same thing? Like a touch screen? They can now have a tiny touch screen which allows both the feed back and UI of the Nano in a size of a Shuffle. The old shuffle is now a useless compromise and can now be done away with.
BUT, here's the issue with this thing having a touch screen. Your fingers cover an area approximately the size of the entire screen! Even if you have really small fingers that only cover 1/4 of the screen, it's still all but impossible to do gestures like flick and tap with any accuracy.
So, how might apple get around this? What if, instead of having the controls on the screen (like the iPod Touch,) or below the screen (current iPod Nano / Classic,) they have it along the edge of the device? I think to scroll lists, you'll be doing flick gestures on a touch sensitive edge of the device.
Now what about the recent moves of the iPod Nano 4th gen? It had a camera added, and was focused on playing videos. Going back to square is going to take that away, won't it? Yes, yes it will, because the iPod Touch is going to pick up that with the new cameras. The iPod Nano is going to be refined back to just music and maybe some video.
And while this article doesn't talk about the Classic, lets think about that one briefly. Why is that thing still around? It's around because flash memory was too cheap. But the iPod Touch has been getting doubled memory every year now for a while. At this point, when it doubles, the iPod Touch will now have 128 GB of storage, more than that of the Classic.
I think that Apple will do away with the Classic as well, leaving them with four distinct products each with their own roles:
iPod Nano - For those who want a small MP3 player.
iPod Touch - For those who want the apps and movies in addition to the MP3. And the camera and the facetime. And the huge amounts of media.
iPhone - For those who want the 3G data and a higher quality camera.
iPad - For those who want the bigger screen, and the iPad exclusive apps.
Gone are the iPod Shuffle (because the Nano replaced it,) the confused iPod Nano (because the Touch picked up what the Nano dropped,) and iPod Classic (because now the Touch has as much memory as it did.)
The idea behind both of these are the same, they want the smallest possible MP3 player.
But there's a conflict, they need to have both feedback and control for it.
In the iPod Shuffle, they decide to do away with the screen and use the voice feedback instead.
The iPod Nano, they go with the screen and click wheel.
Let's try something else instead now, what if the feedback and control were the same thing? Like a touch screen? They can now have a tiny touch screen which allows both the feed back and UI of the Nano in a size of a Shuffle. The old shuffle is now a useless compromise and can now be done away with.
BUT, here's the issue with this thing having a touch screen. Your fingers cover an area approximately the size of the entire screen! Even if you have really small fingers that only cover 1/4 of the screen, it's still all but impossible to do gestures like flick and tap with any accuracy.
So, how might apple get around this? What if, instead of having the controls on the screen (like the iPod Touch,) or below the screen (current iPod Nano / Classic,) they have it along the edge of the device? I think to scroll lists, you'll be doing flick gestures on a touch sensitive edge of the device.
Now what about the recent moves of the iPod Nano 4th gen? It had a camera added, and was focused on playing videos. Going back to square is going to take that away, won't it? Yes, yes it will, because the iPod Touch is going to pick up that with the new cameras. The iPod Nano is going to be refined back to just music and maybe some video.
And while this article doesn't talk about the Classic, lets think about that one briefly. Why is that thing still around? It's around because flash memory was too cheap. But the iPod Touch has been getting doubled memory every year now for a while. At this point, when it doubles, the iPod Touch will now have 128 GB of storage, more than that of the Classic.
I think that Apple will do away with the Classic as well, leaving them with four distinct products each with their own roles:
iPod Nano - For those who want a small MP3 player.
iPod Touch - For those who want the apps and movies in addition to the MP3. And the camera and the facetime. And the huge amounts of media.
iPhone - For those who want the 3G data and a higher quality camera.
iPad - For those who want the bigger screen, and the iPad exclusive apps.
Gone are the iPod Shuffle (because the Nano replaced it,) the confused iPod Nano (because the Touch picked up what the Nano dropped,) and iPod Classic (because now the Touch has as much memory as it did.)