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More Confirmation Verizon iPhone to Launch on January 11th

inkswamp said:
Apple interacts with countless other companies in the production of their products. You're going to hang every violation by any of those groups around Apple's neck? I'd say you're the one who needs to consider perspective. The fault for human rights violations lies squarely with the company who commits those acts and more specifically with those running the company who allow it to happen. These convoluted arguments about the guilt of person X at company Y doing business with company Z who commits human rights violations is a load of crap. By extension, all of us are guilty. Or do customers get a free pass for doing business with these guys?
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lots of words... no logic.

Apple knows what their partners do, and still supports them, presumably because they are the cheapest.

Most consumers, if they knew, would avoid products made under these conditions but because they mistakenly believe what Apple says, they don't.
 
The naysaying kind of shocks me here.

-Sure, we've heard rumors since before the original iPhone was announced, but never with this amount of very specific details, heat and ferocity.

-Wouldn't see Apple needing to host an event to show this, especially since it's likely the same phone with a different antenna.

-Verizon had ample opportunity to announce anything else at CES

-iPad 2 will be an Apple event. Edit: CDMA iPad doesn't make sense this close to a refresh. Neither Apple or Verizon stand to make any more money than the myfi bundle with an integrated model to be released two months before the iPad 2. I see it being integrated then. The reason this is different than running concurrent release cycles with an iPhone is that the iPad is less carrier dependent. The edge given with an integrated model would be mitigated by the costs of marketing and producing what will be clearanced or at the very least low end priced in March.

-Apple doesn't care about the fact that a refreshed model will be released in June, they care about profits and the amount of money they can make until then, if they keep the release schedule the same for both carriers..which they could very well not..they've got deep pockets and could manage, and possibly benefit from a profit spreading standpoint, from having two concurrent release cycles.

-At this point, if this were not the iPhone announcement, I would have looked for Verizon to categorically deny it to manage hype. If they do not do this and this event is not an iPhone announcement, whatever the announcement really is wouldn't matter, because the story would be "no iPhone. "

Folks have pretty much already made every point I've made here, but some folks still don't want to believe this is the real deal. Having followed the iPhone from rumors in the mid 00s to now, the writing on the wall has been there since late last year, when stories that smelled of a controlled leak started rolling in. The events of the last few days are icing on the cake to me. As an ATT customer, happy iPhone user, and Apple fan, I'm happy to see more people have access to this device. I don't think I will switch carriers at this point, but more users = more apps, more competition between carriers, bigger community, and at the end of the day, we benefit, as do all smartphone users really.

Having said all of that, I am fully aware that I could be eating crow come Tuesday morning.
 
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archipellago said:
lots of words... no logic.

Apple knows what their partners do, and still supports them, presumably because they are the cheapest.

Most consumers, if they knew, would avoid products made under these conditions but because they mistakenly believe what Apple says, they don't.
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It seems as though you aren't recognising that nearly any large company behaves in much the same way. Why are you singling Apple out? As a previous poster stated, if you chose not to do business with companies that use Chinese goods then you would not be left with much.

Furthermore, because of troubles in the past Foxconn has taken steps to improve the conditions for their workers. They have introduced such steps as nettings to prevent suicide and 30% pay increases. If anything you should applaud Apple for doing business with a company that has been trying to improve its working conditions.
 
sonicdissent said:
-At this point, if this were not the iPhone announcement, I would have looked for Verizon to categorically deny it to manage hype. If they do not do this and this event is not an iPhone announcement, whatever the announcement really is wouldn't matter, because the story would be "no iPhone. "
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Why would Verizon deny this, even if it isn't true? Rumors about the Verizon iPhone have keep thousands of Verizon users from jumping over to AT&T for the iPhone for over a year.

I'm still hedging my bets this could be a CDMA iPad.

Like others, I hope its the Verizon iPhone just to end these threads. Then we can all get back to guessing what the next iPad, iMac, MacBook, etc will look like and when will it be released. Should I buy xxxx now or wait for 60 days???
 
ucdesai said:
This is not going to be Verizon iPhone announcement. It will be for motorola xoom. Mark my words.
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Um, they already announced that for Verizon at CES, don't you follow the news? So, you think they're going to hold a whole other event to announce it for a second time?

I know, maybe its to announce an iPhone...:p
 
Geckotek said:
No, the ETF for your iPhone 4 is $325. However, all ETFs are prorated so you need to determine the prorated amount - the number of months you've had the phone.
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I've had it since the first day it was released. How do they pro-rate? Per month for a 2-year contract, i.e. $13.50/month? If so, I'll still pay $250. Ouch.

Probably worth it, though, to have a phone that ACTUALLY WORKS.
 
mattwallace24 said:
Why would Verizon deny this, even if it isn't true? Rumors about the Verizon iPhone have keep thousands of Verizon users from jumping over to AT&T for the iPhone for over a year.

I'm still hedging my bets this could be a CDMA iPad
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Because any other announcement after letting this hype an story run wild..even a CDMA iPad..would be a PR disaster. The rumors that you speak of keeping people on verizon were never this specific. Even not considering that, A CDMA iPad doesn't make sense yet. I have a feeling we will see some variation of it with the iPad 2, but this isn't the time for that announcement. I dont see them bothering to market a new iPad variation one-two month out from being obsolete when they are already doing the myfi bundle.
 
Maybe we should take an informal poll...

1. Verizon and Apple announce the iPhone 4, and it's very similar to the current iPhone 4, but runs on CDMA.

2. Verizon and Apple announce a new iPhone which is different than the current iPhone (redesign, LTE support ect)

3. Verizon and Apple announces a CDMA iPad or iPad 2

4. Verizon announces some unnamed product that has nothing to do with apple.

I'm going with #1...just seems to be the most likely scenario to me.
 
lpj8 said:
Maybe we should take an informal poll...

1. Verizon and Apple announce the iPhone 4, and it's very similar to the current iPhone 4, but runs on CDMA.

2. Verizon and Apple announce a new iPhone which is different than the current iPhone (redesign, LTE support ect)
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So long as different antenna design falls under 1, that's my vote. If I could find a place to place a bet, I would.
 
Phone

My question is what colors will be available on day 1? Wouldnt it be great if they made them in a choice of Black , White or Verizon Red?

Man, I really want a White Verizon Iphone!!
 
badlydrawnboy said:
I've had it since the first day it was released. How do they pro-rate? Per month for a 2-year contract, i.e. $13.50/month? If so, I'll still pay $250. Ouch.

Probably worth it, though, to have a phone that ACTUALLY WORKS.
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If your phone is not working as you claim then I would say you could get out without paying an ETF for breach of contract on AT&T's part. Probably will not be the easiest thing to do, but may be worth a try. maybe even return the phone to them in exchange for canceling, unless you can make more than 250 by selling it.
 
sonicdissent said:
-Apple doesn't care about the fact that a refreshed model will be released in June, they care about profits and the amount of money they can make until then, if they keep the release schedule the same for both carriers..which they could very well not..they've got deep pockets and could manage, and possibly benefit from a profit spreading standpoint, from having two concurrent release cycles.
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As a Verizon customer for 14 years, I'm hoping that on Tuesday Verizon will assure their customers who would like to buy an iPhone next month that the shiny new iPhone they plan to purchase and would get locked into a 2 year contract for won't have a ridiculously short shelf life. The best way they could do that would be to release the next-gen iPhone on that day.

Personally, I don't think we'll see an "iPhone 5" this year. I think we'll see an improved version of the great-looking iPhone 4 design/body with upgraded internal specs, possibly called the iPhone 4S.
 
Retrosonic said:
My question is what colors will be available on day 1? Wouldnt it be great if they made them in a choice of Black , White or Verizon Red?

Man, I really want a White Verizon Iphone!!
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I can imagine quite a few people would be interested in a red iPhone. Personally, black is the only color I'm interested in, even though crimson/dark red happens to be my favorite color.
 
dampfnudel said:
Personally, I don't think we'll see an "iPhone 5" this year. I think we'll see an improved version of the great-looking iPhone 4 design/body with upgraded internal specs, possibly called the iPhone 4S.
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There will be an iPhone 5, but it will be GSM. So why would this make a the shelf life of a Verizon iPhone short???
 
archipellago said:
lots of words... no logic.

Apple knows what their partners do, and still supports them, presumably because they are the cheapest.

Most consumers, if they knew, would avoid products made under these conditions but because they mistakenly believe what Apple says, they don't.
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Then every consumer should stop buying anything electronic since almost, if not all electronic devices have some component made from Foxconn.
 
Namji said:
Why??? So that you can finally be able to use your iphone to make and receive calls on AT&T? :p
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i actually dont get dropped calls. My only gripe with att are the dead spots, whereas with verizon, anywhere you go you have 3-4 bars constantly (in NYC at least).
 
diegoesk said:
i actually dont get dropped calls. My only gripe with att are the dead spots, whereas with verizon, anywhere you go you have 3-4 bars constantly (in NYC at least).
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Not in Florida. Verizon works only in the larger area's of people. Terrible between the cities. ATT has good coverage most everywhere here. They problem is dropped calls. All the time. Sure love that Call Failed screen.
 
data plan

my biggest question is how the data plan gonna work? will they still keep it unlimited or will they tier it?

i'm debating whether we should do the unlimited data plan now just in case they do change it so we can be grandfathered in and keep the unlimited data...
 
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