And therein lies the truth of your argument. You behave as if these are all new fangled applications, but the iPhone does them already. And as for standing in Church looking good with your iPad? Plz post a pic of that, I need a good belly laugh.
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And therein lies the truth of your argument. You behave as if these are all new fangled applications, but the iPhone does them already. And as for standing in Church looking good with your iPad? Plz post a pic of that, I need a good belly laugh.
Why would I buy an iPad to use an RSS reader when I want to watch video?
I use an RSS reader on my iPhone. I expect more from an iPad.
Add Facebook & Myspace to the list. I can't believe I have to name sites that use Flash. It's pervasive. I don't like that, but not liking it doesn't change reality.
I think Ihnatko's best example was instant messaging & writing something at the same time. That's something that people do every day without thinking about it on their laptops in multiple windows that you can't do on the iPad.
No, you won't be able to see a contact or buddylist and write something at the same time. This quitting apps and switching back and forth will become tiresome very quickly in my opinion. On a phone, you accept such limitations.
I simply think the iPad is powerful enough to not have to have a phone operating system and its inherent limitations.
The sad part is that you blindly follow Apple regardless of this devices current limitations. If 4.0 solves the problems I have with the iPad, I'll be much more interested.
I think you are wrong or you have an old version of the iPhone OS.
I can select and copy text from Safari and paste it into other messaging applications, email , SMS, etc in the iPhone with no problem.
You're not correct; everyone already explained to you multiple times how you're wrong. Multitasking is running multiple processes simultaneously (well, technically, rapidly switching between them, but it seems like they're running at the same time), which the iPhone OS, since it's OS X, has been doing since day 1. Not allowing more than one third-party app to run at once is purely an arbitrary decision on Apple's part which they can choose to lift at any time, and has no bearing whatsoever on the OS's ability to multitask. My iPod touch can play music, download apps, and browse the web at the same time (and so can the iPad), which is the definition of multitasking. End of discussion.
--Eric
I just don't understand why people keep arguing this point...
The iPad is a one window, one app at a time Phone operating system based on MacOS X. It is not full blown MacOS X.
Backround processes do happen, but without running 2 or more apps at the same time, the device is not a fullly multitasking device. It has multitasking limitations.
Whether it's an arbitrary Apple decision is really irrelevant, it's still a current limitation and no one knows when/if it will change for sure.
I may eventually buy one of these, but right now, I'm waiting to see how Apple improves it.
Funny, last night I downloaded apps for NPR, USA Today and BBC News... all written anew for the iPad. I decided to pass on the WSJ (do they even use flash?). Gimme a break, there's an entire section at the iTunes App store devoted to news (some like Time and The New York Times hustling for subscriptions).
Look, we all know flash has ruled in the past... but it's simply not worthy of all this back and forth. The animations can be done other ways easily, and the interactive parts don't play well with touch-screen (mouseless) devices anyway.
It's almost meaningless at this point, especially when all the iPhone and iPod touch users are factored into the equation. Flash is dying. It will linger for quite a while, but most sites will be recoded to handle other contingencies as well.
RSS reader on the iPhone - so you read news on the iPhone and then what? I'm not sure - do you watch the same news in video format elsewhere? Do you only consume news via video? Do you not use your RSS reader on your iPhone? What is your point?
Facebook, there is an iPhone app for that. If it's games, that's another point. However, if that's not what you mean, the iPad does have a browser with a screen size that works with Facebook and on my system I don't allow Flash and use Facebook daily (probably too much!).
Are you a Farmville fan? If you are, great, then let's lobby Zynga to create an iPad version of Farmville, but I'd be surprised if they aren't working on it already as they have several non-Flash games.
What else? If there's something else you want it to do let's discuss. Or are you going to list every Flash site and give that as a reason not to buy an iPad? If there are reasons not to buy it, you won't run out of them, however, if there are reasons you would buy it, I'd like to hear it.
Flash, however, is a topic we've already discussed, and has been discussed ad nauseum.
Not cut/pasting with 2 open windows/apps at the same time you can't.
You have to quit one and launch the other by going back to the home screen.
On the iPhone, I accept that limitation, it's a phone.
The iPad should be more than a phone in my opinion.
And I guess we'll have to leave it there.
What... typing something in one window while looking at another window about something else? Big hairy deal. Hmm... so maybe that way, what ends up getting written will make for better reading. (I.e., more focused).
You seem awfully intent on justifying your lack of a purchase. I don't think anyone really cares. S'matter... you got nothing better to do than hang out here and knock the iPad.
What possible difference does that make? "Quitting" by going home is almost instantaneous... and when we go back to the source app, it instantly opens right where it was when we left it. It adds up to EXACTLY the same thing, except we don't see both windows at the same time.
Here's your bib... now chew that mouthful properly this time.
What... typing something in one window while looking at another window about something else? Big hairy deal. Hmm... so maybe that way, what ends up getting written will make for better reading. (I.e., more focused).
You seem awfully intent on justifying your lack of a purchase. I don't think anyone really cares. S'matter... you got nothing better to do than hang out here and knock the iPad.
Nope, made all my points, I'll let the fanboys bask in Steve Jobs reality distortion field now and do something else.
Pardon the interruption in the signal to your brains.
By the way, I may eventually buy one! That's why I think it's so funny how intense the outrage is here when someone criticizes Apple! LOL
Night.
Uh-huh. Sounds more like you finally figured out your error with the copy/paste bit.Nope, made all my points, I'll let the fanboys bask in Steve Jobs reality distortion field now and do something else.
Pardon the interruption in the signal to your brains.
By the way, I may eventually buy one! That's why I think it's so funny how intense the outrage is here when someone criticizes Apple! LOL
Night.
Whew... that took a while. Goodnight.
Ending up where all Etch-A-Sketches end up, sooner or later
WSJ reports that once early lines thinned out, and the mothers took their kids home, sales were "sketchy".
New "Etch-a-sketch? Not so hot
Apple's new "power" computing base:
And why Jobs never gets my money. Ever. Again.
P.S. Make sure when you turn it over to refresh the screen, you shake it really good and hard.
Kiddies.
WSJ reports that once early lines thinned out, and the mothers took their kids home, sales were "sketchy".
New "Etch-a-sketch? Not so hot
Apple's new "power" computing base:
And why Jobs never gets my money. Ever. Again.
P.S. Make sure when you turn it over to refresh the screen, you shake it really good and hard.
Kiddies.
Apple's new "power" computing base:
Hey at least the battery shows "full"!
Whoever did the graphics missed the space between the icons on the iPad vs the iPod Touch.
And dude, it's all about the roundrecs!
Rocketman
Excuse my ignorance (I don't have an iPhone and the iPad doesn't come to Australia for a few weeks).
Why do you need to have a computer to link to it? I was hoping to get one for my 80 year mother who is tech illiterate.
Thanks.
A Mac I presume? Or just access to iTunes?
And after the initial set-up? Can you download apps etc directly?
Anything with iTunes. If you buy from an Apple store they can do it for you. After setup you can download apps and books and music, etc. directly. Syncing occasionally to a PC/Mac is useful for backup, of course...
Ah, the old "I'll do my part for non-proprietary Web standards as long as it doesn't inconvenience me!" routine, eh?
Cool! So, um, why are you still posting here exactly? By moving on, why don't you, you know, move on?
Yeah, ipad is one of those sit down and chill type devices, but not to replace anything really. I still use my MacBook normally. But for waiting at the airport and laying in bed, the ipad wins.
Not sure I would poor all my stuff on a portable device though, too easy to get lost and drop it, then what. The ipad allows me to view things easier then the iphone. I mean, trying to read web text on iphone is so cramped sometimes. It's like a cross between. It's pretty much a luxury device. Sorry you are returning it. I thought about it too, but the nice screen changes my mind
I admit, i was skeptical about the iPad....didn't think i'd need one...that it's just a luxury item. What this can do and the possibilities with new apps, makes this a must have. I'm even going to use it as my portfolio for my next interview. How sweet will it be to present all my graphic and photography work on this!!!!! It's awesome! and the gaming on it!!!!!! it just simplifies everything. So much less to carry and less clutter in the house. Very, very, very, very happy with it.
I did not write anything about the device in this thread, but I would not buy it. Your point of view may be totally different, it is just my point of view:
I switched from Windows PCs to Macs in 2002. Macs were a "creative tool" with things like iMove, free developer tools and open source operating system. Microsoft had introduced a "consume only" idea of a media center and there was much discussion about TCPA being introduced on Windows during that time.
Now Apple is just turing away from the things I used to like about them. iPod, iPhone and iPad are "pay, sit back, consume and let the others do the thinking" devices with TCPA like control.
I have been a Linux user (and programmer) for a long time (since about 1994). Yes, there are many things missing. But if something is missing there, it is just because no one has done it yet. Not because the "control company" does forbid it.
Yes, this is a personal point of view. My expectations are probably different from the majority (that wants to consume only). So I think there is a big audience for such devices. It is just not for me.
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