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More Speculation for Tomorrow: Beatles on iTunes
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Just amazing that people can get so emotional over something that hasn't even been confirmed.
That's what I'm thinking. People getting this emotional and overdramatic over something that matters so little makes you wonder what is wrong with them. You would think Apple just announced that they now support genocide.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1087769/how_to_cope_with_overlydramatic_teens.html
Relevancy based on record sales.
There seems to be a recurring argument that anyone who like the Beatles would already own all the records, and people have been saying that everytime this rumor pops up.
But the numbers do not agree. In 2008, the year before the remastered albums came out, when most people who knew anything about the Beatles were least likely to buy, the Beatles still sold 1,339,000 Albums.
The year before, a more typical year as the remasters had not yet been announced, the Beatles sold 1,994,000 Albums. .
In 2000, when 1 was released, which was nothing more than basically a "greatest hits" record, giving the public nothing they hadn't already heard, they sold 7,289,000 Albums.
And while the 2000 sales were high, about 2million records is consistent, year after year. People just keep buying them, whether they are 13 year olds just introduced to them, or college kids just introduced, or Xer's who never quote got around to buying all of them when they were younger. Or they may be Boomers who have bought them on vinyl, and the 86 release CD, and have been meaning to buy the remasters, but, because they are busy, haven't gotten a chance. And, if they allow single track sales, their will be quite a few sales for those who do not want to buy an album, they just want Twist and Shout, or She Loves You or Penny Lane.
It probably doesn't make sense to quite a few of us who know every torrent site, and who, if they were to get into a band, would buy it's entire catologue in a short amount of time, but that is not representative of the average consumer, and the sales statistics bare this out.
ADDED, The above info comes from Nielsen Soundscan, and only includes North American Sales.
There seems to be a recurring argument that anyone who like the Beatles would already own all the records, and people have been saying that everytime this rumor pops up.
But the numbers do not agree. In 2008, the year before the remastered albums came out, when most people who knew anything about the Beatles were least likely to buy, the Beatles still sold 1,339,000 Albums.
The year before, a more typical year as the remasters had not yet been announced, the Beatles sold 1,994,000 Albums. .
In 2000, when 1 was released, which was nothing more than basically a "greatest hits" record, giving the public nothing they hadn't already heard, they sold 7,289,000 Albums.
And while the 2000 sales were high, about 2million records is consistent, year after year. People just keep buying them, whether they are 13 year olds just introduced to them, or college kids just introduced, or Xer's who never quote got around to buying all of them when they were younger. Or they may be Boomers who have bought them on vinyl, and the 86 release CD, and have been meaning to buy the remasters, but, because they are busy, haven't gotten a chance. And, if they allow single track sales, their will be quite a few sales for those who do not want to buy an album, they just want Twist and Shout, or She Loves You or Penny Lane.
It probably doesn't make sense to quite a few of us who know every torrent site, and who, if they were to get into a band, would buy it's entire catologue in a short amount of time, but that is not representative of the average consumer, and the sales statistics bare this out.
ADDED, The above info comes from Nielsen Soundscan, and only includes North American Sales.
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There are only two of them, and they've both been there for a long time. They're under different record labels.
ok heres my thinking
George harrison = california
john lennon = new york
paul mccartney = london
ringo starr = tokyo??
George harrison = california
john lennon = new york
paul mccartney = london
ringo starr = tokyo??
Damn, good point. It just seems a little late in the game to make this big of a deal about it. While it's cool for newer generations to have easy access, it seems the core group of original beatles fans (those that grew up with them) probably don't care as much as Apple is building it up to be. I know my parents could care less about it being in iTunes or anywhere else besides their cd's or records. I don't know. I'm trying not to be so close minded about this. I just don't see why it would get this kind of fanfare.
Guess I only have 6 1/2 hours to find out anyway. Maybe I should go to bed.
Maybe, but those bands don't get the benefit of an entire, drug-addled generation viewing them through rose-tinted glasses and declaring them nothing short of godliness.
My point being: I've had enough Beatles mythologizing in my lifetime. It's tiresome. Yeah, much of their music is great, but not as great as the myths instruct.
Want to talk truly great bands? Let's talk about Pink Floyd sometime. What Pink Floyd did puts the Beatles fully to shame. And hey, even the Beatles agree with that as they ripped off the whole psychedlia thing from them.
I'd say at 10AM, there will be an streaming video feed with Paul McCartney announcing the release of the Beatles songs in iTunes. And maybe singing a tune.
To be fair, it actually is a big deal to many of us younger folks. Its the greatest band ever, and I think it will continue to impress new generations. Not the mainstream MTV/radiohits croud, but the ones actually interessted in music.
That being said, yes it would be a huge disappointment, and Apple would lose a lot of hype credibility if they were to just release the now same-old collection.
Im guessing we either get some unreleased songs included in a bundle-thingy, perhaps with a lower price than usual since its Christmas, or -- well --something else than Beatles altogether.
People should not forget Apple may not have wanted to announce the iTunes Beatles invasion like this, and consider the possibility the hype is part of a deal they had to make. At least that could explain the over-the-top wording in the announcement, which I believe PR experts like Apple would normally be too smart to make since it just leads to disappointment and possibly takes their credibility away.
I live in Liverpool and this announcement is hardly surprising, given that we've been subjected to 'The Beatles - Remastered' album posters at bus stops everywhere! So its inevitable the product line is being promoted on iTunes
BUT! But. but....
I want them in iTunes!!!!
I mean, I could always rip the CDs right into iTunes, or buy them off Amazon MP3 and have them magically appear in iTunes, or get them through less-legal sources for "free," but, to be able to have the honour of buying them directly from Apple? That's huge!
You could say the drug comment about Pink Floyd as well, or almost any band from back then actually.
It's hard to believe you're comment about the Beatles ripping off psychedelia from Pink Floyd since Rubber Soul, Revolver and Sgt. Pepper's were all released before Piper at the Gates of Dawn. Not to mention, the Grateful Dead's first album, Are You Experienced from Hendrix, Surrealistic Pillow from Jefferson Airplane and The Doors first album all came out before Piper as well. I'm not hating on Pink Floyd by any means. I love them as well and even have their Oh, by the Way box set. If we're being honest though they were fairly late to the psychedelic scene compared to many other progenitors of the genre.
Like i said in one of the earlier threads about the speculation. Apple are part of the Illuminati
LMAO
but seriously, if this is all it's going to be, then how is it something that we'll never forget? Personally, I couldn't care less about the beatles in iTunes....
I just hope there's more to the announcement.