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More to Come from Apple... Soon?

soon...

Single core Intel iBooks.

Single core Intel Mac Minis with front row and probably not TV tuner.

17" PB Intel Core Duo.

I hope Apple never makes Plasma TVs.
 
Chundles said:
Wait, you say you're desperately awaiting a 15" Yonah Mac laptop and yet you have cancelled your order for a MacBook Pro which is a 15" Yonah Mac laptop??

That's just weird. If you want it, buy it. Don't pissfart about waiting for something that may or may not exist. I doubt they'll do anything to the MacBook Pro line soon - it has been a whole 2 days now, are we getting a bit too demanding for updates now or what?
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Apple isnt going to be expanding the laptop line announcements for at least another 6 months, so go ahead and order now people. If you wait for an Apple upgrade you will always be waiting, because there is always *something* coming down the pipe. Amazon has them avaliable for preorder, just get one from them. ;)
 
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The article is vague in every aspect. However it confirms my thought that the MacBook Pro and the Intel iMac are just gap fillers for now.

...and I certainly hope that Apple has more exciting products up there sleeve... otherwise Apple is in a little trouble...
 
VidGuy said:
Right....the "fastest BY FAR"? Sorry its a new world now. PC's may suck, and may be "behemoths", but we *will* be able to compare speeds. For instance, Dell is shipping a laptop with a 2 GHz Core Duo processor *right now*, so we know the MacBook isn't the fastest, even before it ships. Apple will have to sell on its OS and other features, size, etc. But don't make any speed claims. It will be interesting to see how the different OS's effect performance, however...

Also, most software on these MacBooks won't even be native x86...will there still be any speed increase when using Rosetta? A speed decrease? What can someone expect to see in the real world before new software is avaliable? I think I'll pass on the first gen of MacBooks.

Vid
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Oh, gimme a break, please. You wanna compare now a 1.8 Duo running OS X with a 2 Duo running Winblows and its truckload of overhead behind (malware, virus, blabla)?

Most software IS native on the Macs, and ALL Apple Proapps will be ready before March. Adobe and MS are the only exceptions for now.

Even PBs G4 were faster than most PCs in daily tasks (except gaming and 3D); I sometimes have to work with a new Dell desktop and it's slow-going as molasses, especially for opening PDF and doing more than one thing at the same time...its multitasking SUCKS. And you wanna still compare Acer to Apple? No, thanks.
 
He also said that if he were me, he probably wouldn't order one of the new MacBook Pros.

I asked if there would be MacBook replacements for the 17-inch and 12-inch PowerBooks, but he said, "Oh, it's much cooler than that. Much cooler"
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If this source is credible - and I believe it is - the product(s) will quickly date the MacBook Pro's announced at MacWorld. That would not be a Plasma, or a Mini. Maybe a Tablet - but I don't see that either. It's hard to think that it would even be the 12.1-inch or 13.3-inch consumer oriented iBooks ThinkSecrect speculated on since those wouldn't really keep a pro user from buying the higher end MacBook. I can't figure out for the life of me, what this source is talking about. Well, I was waiting for a 12 or 13-inch notebook anyways, so it will be easy for me to wait and see :p
 
Plantman said:
The only questions I had was why was there a second imac on the podium? Was there a danger of reliability?
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He has always had two machines on-stage. Once he had a crash and he had to move to the "back-up" machine. It is just-in-case.
 
VidGuy said:
Right....the "fastest BY FAR"? Sorry its a new world now. PC's may suck, and may be "behemoths", but we *will* be able to compare speeds. For instance, Dell is shipping a laptop with a 2 GHz Core Duo processor *right now*, so we know the MacBook isn't the fastest, even before it ships. Apple will have to sell on its OS and other features, size, etc. But don't make any speed claims. It will be interesting to see how the different OS's effect performance, however...

Also, most software on these MacBooks won't even be native x86...will there still be any speed increase when using Rosetta? A speed decrease? What can someone expect to see in the real world before new software is avaliable? I think I'll pass on the first gen of MacBooks.

Vid
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You bring up an interesting point: No longer are speed comparisons going to be the hueristic. Now it will be "how well does the software utilize the power of the chip", "How stable is the software" etc. There paradigm is really shifting.
 
ihayden said:
He has always had two machines on-stage. Once he had a crash and he had to move to the "back-up" machine. It is just-in-case.
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In fact there are always redundant backups for EVERYTHING at the keynote. Jobs is not going to be left hanging in the breeze a-la Gates if for some reason something goes haywire with a computer.
 
asphalt-proof said:
You bring up an interesting point: No longer are speed comparisons going to be the hueristic. Now it will be "how well does the software utilize the power of the chip", "How stable is the software" etc. There paradigm is really shifting.
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Exactly. Finally the Winblows pundits can take their speed arguments and shove them, because it will all become an OS-centric argument.
 
cjboffoli97 said:
Having just returned from CES where I saw everyone doing media centers, I have to think that Apple MUST be doing this too and sometime soon. But methinks they're smart to wait and devote the available Duo chips to the new iMacs and Macbooks. The latter is the eventual incarnation of the "Powerbook G5" that everyone was waiting for. The demand will be huge. I've already ordered mine and I currently own a perfectly good 15" Powerbook 1.67GHz.
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So this contains the key information for those saying "Apple are waiting for a chip supplier again!" or "Intel have never had these problems". Actually, they have. These chips are in massive demand, and it is zero suprize to hear that there may be "not-unlimited supplies" of them at this stage of their life-cycle.

I don't agree on the whole iLife thing btw, I enjoyed that section, it's cool stuff and deserved centre stage. What did stand out like a turd in the fruit bowl was iWork. So I'm sure it's jolly good, blah blah blah, but to show just one feature? 3d charts WITH TEXTURES!!! Um, OK. That slot, that is where something was removed from, and a few other things stretched out. So I guess there are 10 missing minutes somewhere.

My two cents, it's smart not doing everything cool all at once. Get a couple of machines out there, get some feedback. Give the early adopters something to adopt, then push push push.

I'm not sure what "much cooler" means, but for me it's not "another laptop" I mean they can be funky, but not "much cooler". Displays with integrated Macology could be it, Mintel Media Center Mini could be it... Not sure that either of those are stunningly cool though.

What would have been cool? Dual dual-core MacMacProMac's (ne PowerMac) in a very SFF would have done it. The only kind of cool laptop I can imagine is a MiniMacBook, something well into the ultra-portable space without comprimize (good sized screen, great battery life, and a DVD+-*/!?### writer/reader).

If I was Steve (and I'm just like Steve without the charisma, the ruthless devotion to purpose, or a turtle neck sweater), I would wait till April 1st to announce something cool anyway.

MiniMacNickNakPaddyWakMovie Pro anyone?
 
BlueRevolution said:
did you all really think that or are you just making that up now that this rumour is out? because I didn't notice anything unusual...



more likely they want the announcements to come at roughly the same time from different manufacturers to avoid the appearance of favouritism.

this Intel thing, I tell you... it's brought nothing but trouble. well, and 4x faster PowerBooks... :D
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sorry. i realise my post was a little skeptical. i am a huge supporter of Apple. i wasn't jumpin gon the rumour, i've posted the same on the initial Keynote news thread (lack of 12" / 17" due to availibility, not demoing the machine).

anyway. looks like this is the year for rumour sites. lots and lots of potential rumours, discussion and heated debates. happy 2006!
 
Sunrunner said:
Exactly. Finally the Winblows pundits can take their speed arguments and shove them, because it will all become an OS-centric argument.
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Queue M$ spending a couple of million PROVING that Windows is faster/cheaper/more secure than anything else especially that crappy OS-X.

And no, they don't care that it "sure doesn't feel that way when I use my Mac", you are clearly wrong because just look at these very expensive statistics.
 
esXXI said:
Would make sense why Steve spent like 45 minutes just demo-ing iLife..
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Hum. Not sure that that was a bad thing. As a new-ish Mac user it was great to see what .Mac and iLife could do, personally that section made me feel much better about those apps, and consider a .Mac account to go with my Mac.

Steve may have been shooting for the double halo (i.e. bought a Mac because I like my 'pod, bought .Mac because I liked my Mac), and in that sense it worked.
 
bugfaceuk said:
Queue M$ spending a couple of million PROVING that Windows is faster/cheaper/more secure than anything else especially that crappy OS-X.
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Well to do that M$ would have to create a workable Sasser or MyDoom for the Mac. Don't recall Macs every being hit by widespread viruses, worms, or spyware. Heck, even Sony couldn't get spyware on the Mac. M$ has a challenge on their hands.
 
Im doubting that its more macbook stuff just because the source said "much much cooler". If its macbook related, anything to do with macbooks would really just be a lateral move. Smaller? bigger? single core? nothing so different to make it that much cooler.

I am still totally hoping for at least one of the following:

1. Mac mini with DVR (most likely)
2. Flat Screen 42' and 50' HDTV with mac built in (most unlikely, but I want!!!)
3. iPhone!!!! (both possible and plausible! please..pretty please with sugar on top???)

:p

And yes, that keynote did seem like it was a lot of filler. I think everyone was expecting both a laptop and a desktop intel that day so the "one more thing" was (as rockin as those macbook pro's are) somewhat of a let down. I was expecting a totally new product.
 
Hard to believe

MacBook Pro is not shipping until February, so why not announce the "so called delayed" item and just say they are shipping when ever.

Steve is smater than we think. He is probably the one that leaks all of the rumors anyway.
 
dwbarcl said:
MacBook Pro is not shipping until February, so why not announce the "so called delayed item and just say they are shipping when ever.

Steve is smater than we think. He is probably the one that leaks all of the rumors anyway.
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They like to trickle the realeases to keep the buzz at a high level in the media... its all part of the marketing plan.
 
For whoever that says the 2GHz Dell laptop is shipping now: 2GHz is a $200 option. Also, don't forget that MacBook Pro is a dual duo processor laptop. Does that Dell laptop have 2 duo processors inside? By taking out 1 processor, of course Dell can trim down cost of production and give a seemingly better deal than the MacBook Pro.

Neither laptops are shipping yet so right now it is hard to tell which 1 is better just by looking at the specs. Until we see the side by side benchmark comparisons and in-depth reviews that says the Dell laptop beats MacBook Pro in every aspect, I would not say the Dell laptop is a better deal.

Oh, One More Thing™, I believe the reason why the MacBook Pro has certain aspects that are "worse" than the Powerbook G4 is because Apple still wants to clear out the remaining stock of PowerBooks. There are always people who want a new laptop, and are willing to sacrifice some things (clock speed, iSight, Front Row, better graphic card) for other nice things you can find in the slightly older model. In this case, it would be the built-in 56k modem, S-video out, firewire 800 port, the extra 60 pixel in height for the screen, 8x SuperDrive with DVD DL support, PCMCIA card slot, and whatever else that I might have forgotten. To me this is all about business...

[EDIT] My mistake, MacBook Pro isn't dual duo like the PowerMac G5 Quad... But now that I think about it, how I wish it is true :cool:
 
no iPod announcement please

I'm hoping there's no new iPod announcement. Lot's of pissed off middle and high schoolers begging their parents to replace the 60GB video iPod they just got for Hanu-Christma-Kwanzaa.

I'm thinking media center. Ooo, what about a black finish iMac media device kind of like what they've done with iPods?
 
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