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- No facial recognition, meaning the notch has no practical value as that was the trade off for Face ID
Not quite, the ‚notch‘ still contains the user-facing camera, proximity sensor and loudspeaker (that is three out of six of the components in the iPhone X‘s notch).
 
Shame on Motorola, I'd expect it from some cheap Chinese knock off, not Motorola, aka the company that invented the freakin cellphone! My how the mighty has fallen
But Motorola are owned by a Chinese company now.
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And has:

- A bottom bezel, meaning the notch has no aesthetic value as that was the trade off to get an edge-to-edge display

- No facial recognition, meaning the notch has no practical value as that was the trade off for Face ID

So basically, no use whatsoever, other than to look like an iPhone X. Stuff like this is such a flagrant rip-off. I don’t know how they get away with it.
The only ones besides Apple that did the notch correctly are essential. The notch was very small.
 
I think the point is, what is the point of the notch? Essential phone has a small notch just one camera. Iphones is larger, for faceid. Whats motorolas excuse other than copying? Its not even edge to edge
 
You can't buy taste. Seriosly though, I love Apple, but iPhone X IMHO is the most atrosious industiral design ever conceived. Why, oh why, design a screen that takes a chunk out of whatever your watching? Defend it all you want, but inside, secretly, you know you are wrong.
See? You were doing just fine until that last bit. Til then, I was going to have a rational exchange, something like, “Think of it as extending the screen around the sensors; the sensors need to be there, so you’re actually getting more screen, not less.” Or, “The designers and executives and consumers of the knockoffs seem to understand the design logic and have no problem with the aesthetic.” But then you gave us, “I hate it, so everyone who doesn’t agree with me must be wrong or lying.” Probably time to eat your vegetables, finish your homework, and go to beddie bye.
 
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Ob my god, this was funny!! I didn’t know who he was, and then I had him right in my face with pictures from his... let’s say profession.
And... I don’t thank you for that!! :confused:

Hahah sorry for the shock! It’s not often that I get the chance to mention him Lolol.
 
Looks like a better iPhone X with possibly fingerprint scanner and probably half the price. And, the iPhone X stole ideas from Samsung Galaxy phablet and Essential Phone notch.

The notch on the essential phone was dumb as there was no reason to do it as they could have moved the chin to the top of the phone. Apple actually fold the OLED display to allow the display to go to the edges and having the cut out for the camera and sensors allows more of the display area to be used. If you see a phone with both a chin and a cutout then you are looking at lazy design with no tech know how to be able to run the display top to bottom.
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Not quite, the ‚notch‘ still contains the user-facing camera, proximity sensor and loudspeaker (that is three out of six of the components in the iPhone X‘s notch).

But their phone has a chin. Move that to the top and you put the cameras in there and no cutout. Lazy design.
 
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The notch on the essential phone was dumb as there was no reason to do it as they could have moved the chin to the top of the phone. Apple actually fold the OLED display to allow the display to go to the edges and having the cut out for the camera and sensors allows more of the display area to be used. If you see a phone with both a chin and a cutout then you are looking at lazy design with no tech know how to be able to run the display top to bottom.
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But their phone has a chin. Move that to the top and you put the cameras in there and no cutout. Lazy design.
No other companies have figured out how to get rid of the chin.


The notch on the essential was tiny. However the other ones are just copying Apple.
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The notch on the essential phone was dumb as there was no reason to do it as they could have moved the chin to the top of the phone. Apple actually fold the OLED display to allow the display to go to the edges and having the cut out for the camera and sensors allows more of the display area to be used. If you see a phone with both a chin and a cutout then you are looking at lazy design with no tech know how to be able to run the display top to bottom.
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But their phone has a chin. Move that to the top and you put the cameras in there and no cutout. Lazy design.
No other companies have figured out how to get rid of the chin.


The notch on the essential was tiny. However the other ones are just copying Apple.


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Why buy a lookalike instead of the real thing? It’s impressive how people behave like sheep and now everyone wants to flaunt their monobrow (aka notch).

Well, sorry but it's obvious.
One could say why buy a $200 TV set when it's rubbish compared to a Sony or Samsung or LG TV
People do, as they don't follow tech or have any real interest.

A consumer, not following tech (perhaps their interests lie in growing flowers and walking in the countryside)
They go into a store for a new phone. See the iPhone at $1000, The salesperson says it's amazing perhaps.
The browse a bit further down, and see's something that TO THEM, looks and feels 98% the same as that £1000 model, and it's $400 or $500 they may well think, looks the same to me, MASSIVE saving, I think I'l have this one.

You have a sale.

We here are not normal people remember.
 
The essential phone was the first phone to the market with a notch. LG also won a patent for a notched phone in November 2016. Apple was not the first.

Lg got the patent on the pimple similar to the essential. The lg 7 looks nothing like the lg patent.

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Apple on the other hand was granted a patent on the notch.
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See? You were doing just fine until that last bit. Til then, I was going to have a rational exchange, something like, “Think of it as extending the screen around the sensors; the sensors need to be there, so you’re actually getting more screen, not less.” Or, “The designers and executives and consumers of the knockoffs seem to understand the design logic and have no problem with the aesthetic.” But then you gave us, “I hate it, so everyone who doesn’t agree with me must be wrong or lying.” Probably time to eat your vegetables, finish your homework, and go to beddie bye.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, even though they may be wrong.
 



Motorola's latest P30 smartphone is making headlines this week, but not for an impressive feature set or a unique design. As it turns out, Motorola has opted to copy the design of the iPhone X, resulting in an Android smartphone that's nearly identical to Apple's flagship device.

The P30, which features a 6.2-inch display, is by far the most iPhone X-like Android smartphone that we've seen yet, with a frontal design that includes rounded corners, a notch that's similar to the iPhone X notch in size and shape, and an edge-to-edge design. There's a small bezel at the bottom, which is the only feature that distinguishes the P30 from the iPhone X.

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At the back, the P30 features a dual-lens camera setup in a vertical orientation much like the iPhone X, and it replaces the Apple logo with a Motorola logo that doubles as a fingerprint sensor. The colorful metallic body of the device is reminiscent of the Huawei P20, making the rear of the smartphone look like a P20/iPhone X hybrid.

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Black and white versions look a little more like the iPhone X, and Motorola has even been marketing the device with iPhone-style wallpapers.

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Motorola's P30 is available in China and isn't being distributed in the United States just yet, and while it has an iPhone X-style design, it is positioned as a mid-range device that's more affordable, perhaps attempting to lure customers who want the iPhone X look but aren't able to shell out $1,000.

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Inside the Motorola P30, there's a Qualcomm Snapdragon 636 chip, 6GB RAM, 128GB of storage, and a 3,000mAh battery. The two rear cameras feature 5 and 16-megapixel sensors while there's a 12-megapixel front-facing camera. Despite the notch, there's no front-facing facial recognition system.

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As The Verge humorously pointed out, the P30 looks so similar to the iPhone X that when doing a Google image search based on the P30, Google guesses that it's an iPhone X.

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Since the iPhone X launched last November, many Android smartphone makers have adopted the notched design to allow for maximum screen space to compete with the iPhone lineup. Smartphones from manufacturers that include LG, Leagoo, Huawei, OnePlus, Asus, Vivo, Oppo, and others have adopted the notch design. Even Google is set to copy the iPhone X's notch with the upcoming Google Pixel 3 XL, based on leaked images.

Apple is planning to unveil three additional smartphones that use the notch design introduced with the iPhone X, and we're just a few weeks away from their debut. Based on rumors, we can count on a second-generation 5.8-inch iPhone X with an OLED display, a larger-screened 6.5-inch OLED iPhone that can be thought of as an "iPhone X Plus," and a 6.1-inch device with an LCD display and a lower price tag.


All three will feature an edge-to-edge display with a notch that houses a TrueDepth camera system, doing away with the Home button in the iPhone lineup. Apple is expected to introduce the new 2018 iPhone lineup right around the second week of September, perhaps on September 11 or September 12.

Article Link: Motorola's New P30 Smartphone Blatantly Copies iPhone X
iPhone X design becomes a truly future iPhone and other smartphone design, including the most and behold famous notch. Bravo and kudos to Apple!!
 
No, then it would be a counterfeit. It still is a copy.
Copying is not a big deal in China. Some of the copies look so much like the real thing.
My cousin is teaching in Thailand and last year she came back to visit. She had this phone that looked just like one of the plus iPhones but it was an Oppo something. Looked just like a real iPhone but it wasn’t.
 
I really don‘t understand what the challenge is to remove the stupid chin off Android phones.
 
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