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I am glad Apple doesn't make tires! Can you imagine, "They copied us! Their tires are round and black!"
It has a bottom chin. Not edge to edge bezeless with the screen. With the compromise being a pop-up camera, that looks like it will damaged easily?

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You replied to the wrong post but my point is the notch is already being made redundant. Give it another year or two and there will be plenty of phones without one.
Only redundant to accept an even worse design comprise is a pop-up camera. Not to mention, this phone will never be able do a face id or iris scanner, unless there is a pop-up thing, making it inconvenient to use. So yeah, the notch is redundant, only if you are willing to accept worse compromises.
 
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Except Apple wasn't the first to use a notch. Look up the essential phone.
And the space shuttle wasn't the first fixed wing aircraft but it was the benchmark for the Russians as the iPhone is for all cellphone companies.
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I’m assuming you’re joking. But in case you’re not, this is the Buran:
That Buran looks suspiciously like the Motorola notch cellphone. What's going on there?!?
 
Looks like a better iPhone X with possibly fingerprint scanner and probably half the price. And, the iPhone X stole ideas from Samsung Galaxy phablet and Essential Phone notch.
You are sorely mistaken if you think Apple saw the Essential phone and designed the X around that. It took many years to develop the iPhone X. I would be willing to bet Apple began design studies on it around the time of the iPhone 6. The time to develop the tech in true depth Face ID took many years and the design revolved around that. Apple copied nobody in the X design, but many other brand have blatantly copied the 'notch' design. I would bet every Apple product I own that if the X came out last year with minimized bezels like the Galaxy lineup there would be no phones with the notch design. Believe what you want, but Apple has once again set the design trend for the next several years.
 
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Only redundant to accept an even worse design comprise is a pop-up camera. Not to mention, this phone will never be able do a face id or iris scanner, unless there is a pop-up thing, making it inconvenient to use. So yeah, the notch is redundant, only if you are willing to accept worse compromises.
There is already a phone that does face recognition with the same pop-up principle. The oppo find x. Also who needs face id the Samsung s10 is going to have the fps under the display which makes a bezeless phone even easier to achieve.
 
That chin just makes it look horrible. The only reason that the iPhone X looks like its edge to edge is because the bezel around the edges are all the same. Its a great optical illusion. I've yet to see a "edge to edge" display without a chin.

No optical illusion on the iPhone, because it is actually uniform. Apple pioneered a process that folds the display at the bottom so the display connector don't have to be on the bottom and making sure bezels stayed uniform.
 
I'm just pointing out what the real end game is in mobile phone design, the notch is a temporary band aid solution.
If the real end-game is truly bezeless, pop-up cameras aren't the real solution either. They are a band-aid. With the abuse these mobile devices get, something that moves or pops up is eventually going to break or jam. I understand your point, but a pop-up camera as a design compromise to me, is worse than the notch. I'd rather have the notch.
 
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If the real end-game is truly bezeless, pop-up cameras aren't the real solution either. They are a band-aid. With the abuse these mobile devices get, something that moves or pops up is eventually going to break or jam. I understand your point, but a pop-up camera as a design compromise to me, is worse than the notch. I'd rather have the notch.
You think bendgate was bad? Jerryrigeverything did a bend test with the Oppo X and it crumbled like a chocolate chip cookie.

Not saying the notch is perfect, but it's telling that the competition hasn't exactly been able to come up with a better solution. At the end of the day, you just end up trading one set of compromises for another.
 
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how come copy cats get away with this? Isn't there patents?
Why don't they sue them like they sued Samsung for years for copying the original iPhone, or did Samsung sue Apple?

Maybe Apple licensed the design, making more money but not worrying about the competition
 
now we know how much these phones can really cost and how much money apple is making from us :( sad
 
So many sedan cars today have the Tesla look. The “in” look gets copied. Like holes in jeans, one can protect the brand name not the holes in jeans look. What happens, Capitalism working.
 
Apple sets the tone for the entire industry. This particular phone is rather sad, but all Android phones have their roots in Google’s decision to go back to the drawing board after the first iPhone was announced and they released an imitating product
 
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