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Mozilla Releases Firefox 3 Web Browser

ZachsMacDaddy said:
How so? Because I used iWeb? Sure, it may not be as good as some others, but it's a heck of a lot easier to use. I used Dreamweaver for years on my old PC and iWeb's simplicity and ease of making album pages made the switch a simple choice.

I don't see why the inability of FF3 to display the photo album pages is MY fault when all those other browsers can do it fine, even the previous FF2.
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I wasn't sure if you'd get the joke. I tried putting in the 😛 so you'd understand, but I guess that wasn't enough. 😱

Explanation: I was just kidding.
 
Blinking cursor

Do you experience a blinking vertical cursor if you click anywhere on a web page (just like moving in a text field)? It's insanely annoying and makes me unable to scroll with the arrow keys because it just moves the cursor up and down one line at a time...
 
Hmm FF3 seems faster than the previous version but sheesh it's certainly been hit with the ugly stick, both in its interface and its rendering of webpages. Can't find any reason to switch from Safari.
 
queshy said:
Everyone: notice the Safari-Zoom-Fail below. I chose CNET because, well, we all love CNET, right? (not...) I guess Apple just doesn't want to pull the old "feature creep" (sarcasm...)
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It's not a zoom fail its bad site development. c-net haven't cleared a float or used a fixed height which pushes content out of the container when you zoom in.

Took me about 10 minuites to get onto the the mozilla site to help them with the world record of most downloads in a day but once i got on the download was reasonable.

FF3 is at the height of browsing I am a web developer and the extensions are essential to help me develop websites every day. FF2 had HUGE performance issues especially with memory leaks and CPU spiking it was near impossible to use sometimes due to the huge amount of issues it has. Mozilla seems to want to sweep FF2 under the carpet now because compared to FF3 its an embarrassment (still miles better than IE though).

I have found due to some of the CLUELESS web developers on some MAJOR sites you need both Firefox and Safari to be able to get the content they want. When will the amateur Microsoft developers realise theres more in this world than IE6.
 
This is my first Firefox upgrade that I've been disappointed with. Can't get google maps to work, some part ofThe Register won't work.

It doesn't even seem faster (snappier 😀) to me.
 
It definitely looks a lot more like Safari than the previous release. I wonder if it looks like IE on Windows?
 
Scrolling is less fluid than safari

Scrolling in FF3 is definitely less fluid than in safari.

I hated FF2, FF3 is alright, but I will stick to safari, and have just appzapped FF3..
 
Finally able to download after not being able to access their site all day, and I have to say that like Safari a lot better, maybe it would just take getting used to, but I don't know. For some odd reason, I have been wanting to set up my browser so it would pass the Acid3 test, Safari scores a 75, Webkit for obvious reasons scores a 100, but then FF3 surprised me by scoring only a 71, at the very least I would expect low 90s, but Safari actually scored better. I am also more used to the face of Safari, and FF3 just reminds me of PCs for some reason. But the major point about it that made me not like FF3 is that it actually seemed like a slower browser than Safari while running them side-by-side loading identical pages, which was completely surprising, I was expecting it to blow Safari out of the water. So I return to Safari disappointed at FF3, but at least I am still happy with Safari, my only two problems with it are that it could be faster, and only scores a 75 on the Acid3 test. I guess I'll just have to wait (at least the leaks show that Safari 4 scores a 100 on the Acid3 test!!).
 
I find turning smooth scrolling OFF makes the pages scroll better!

Aren't you all missing the main point of FF though?
It may be slower to open (by a tiny amount) but the range of FF extensions for the browser make it the winner, no contest.

Safari is indeed quick but there's not much flexibility. Also in my case it randomly crashes more than FF does.
 
dinojr said:
I find turning smooth scrolling OFF makes the pages scroll better!

Aren't you all missing the main point of FF though?
It may be slower to open (by a tiny amount) but the range of FF extensions for the browser make it the winner, no contest.

Safari is indeed quick but there's not much flexibility. Also in my case it randomly crashes more than FF does.
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How long did you test FF3 to be able to discern that Safari crashes more often? My safari crashes about once every week or so.. I can't be bothered personally to turn OFF smooth scrolling, to make it scroll smoother.. I just zapped it as I was happy with Safari to begin with. I'm just conservative I guess 🙂
 
ZachsMacDaddy said:
How so? Because I used iWeb? Sure, it may not be as good as some others, but it's a heck of a lot easier to use. I used Dreamweaver for years on my old PC and iWeb's simplicity and ease of making album pages made the switch a simple choice.

I don't see why the inability of FF3 to display the photo album pages is MY fault when all those other browsers can do it fine, even the previous FF2.
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You should try rapidweaver! It's much better than iWeb08 IMO and offers a lot more customisation. It doesn't have all the power of dreamweaver but it's still darn good for the cost.
 
Heh, I'm quite comfy with IE7. Haven't even bothered downloading Safari yet. I've just never liked Firefox much, not sure why. I don't think the interface ever stuck with me and it looks much too cluttered. I'm also a big fan of speed and Safari still seems quicker (in OSX at least).

Maybe one day.
 
But what about web sites generated with iPhoto

Hi,

I just downloaded the latest firefox, and indeed it's much speedier than the previous flavor. Still a big drawback, to me at least, it seems that web sites generated with iPhoto won't work anymore..

in the error console i see something like that:

Error: widgetDiv.getElementsByClassName("paginated_only").invoke is not a function
Source File: http://www.cbs.dtu.dk/researchgroups/immunology/HLA/Scripts/Widgets/HeaderControls/HeaderControls.js
Line: 100


Is it only me?
here's a test web site:
http://www.cbs.dtu.dk/researchgroups/immunology/HLA/A.html


Of course, Safari, FF2 and EVEN IE (!) work fine...

any ideas?
 
I downloaded it on my Vista based PC and have to say I'm very impressed with it - it's much faster, supports all my current add ons with the exception of Linkification (which is being reworked just now) can be themed to anything you like - including Safari and the awesome bar is just, well, awesome.

I appreciate that it might need a bit more work on Macs but I suppose that's always going to tbe the case when the product is primarily aimed at the 90%+ of the market dominated by Windows based PCs. I'm sure they'll tidy it up in later patches.

Much better than IE7 and Safari for me. I'll be interested to see what Safari 4 and IE8 deliver though.
 
It's very very quick, although i've noticed that (anecdotally at least) the speed is much quicker on the XP version than the X version. Also the scolling is rubbish on my os x version, it's almost dealbreaking. I compared against safari last night and the difference in smooth scrolling is ridiculous, it's almost unusable. I'm sure it wasn't that bad in the last release candidate
 
As for the native look and feel, umm, yuck!

For a start the default close tab X is on the wrong side for a Mac app.

Yes there is a theme add-on that can imitate Safari, but surely the native look and feel should cover the close tab button too.
 
So far so good for me. Had a slight problem with importing bookmarks but thats fixed now.
Only thing I miss (from using Tab Mix Plus in FF2) is having a download progress bar when opening a new site, and the 'undo close tab' option.

That said, I don't think I'll be moving from FF3 anytime soon.

Well done guys excellent work, b.
 
elppa said:
Apple have their photocopiers out for Safari 4 and it works pretty well.

Opera did this first, then IE 7 followed. Now Firefox has taken the same approach it makes no sense for Safari to stand alone in offering text resizing instead of page resizing.

Developers want consistency.

You can achieve the same page zoom effect by using ems for everything (see odeon.co.uk).
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Page zooming isn't Meta tag scaling as in Vectors. It's a hack across the board.

Real page scaling means all entities will scale their entire contents, vectorally and be re-rasterized without any loss in resolution.

That's true scaling.
 
I'm just gonna wait and hope some of the features make it into Camino, which I use a second browser for my other monitor.

Hopefully Apple will add some of the better things into Safari, such as better auto-complete of URLs, anti-phishing etc.

I never got used to using FireFox 1 or 2, and FireFox 3 seems to have broken the mould by making it even less likely I'll ever use it 🙁
 
I'm at work so on a Windows machine....but I've got it installed now. I'm liking what I see so far! My MacBook is still in the store having it's case replaced but will stick it on my *cough* other Mac *cough* later tonight for sure. 😉
 
FireFox ... give it up

Its over for FireFox. Safari has already won. And the next version of Safari will make this even more useless, desperate.

In two or three years, it won't even exist.
 
i downloaded it on my iMac & PB and yes it is definitely faster than FF2 but only equally as fast as Safari 3 (Safari might have the slight edge). The interface is too dark, intense, clunky...unpolished looking for me. The buttons are also somewhat jagged looking around the edges

Tab handling is still not as seamless/smooth as Safari. Also i have this weird bug where the toolbar color is slightly off compared to the rest of the browser, i gather its a consequence of Uno and i've tried deleting the suggested files but no dice.

Lack of RSS integration for me is also another no no

Overall its a very speedier browser looks like a a lot of work went into it and i'm glad. Its still the most extendable browser out there and its security is superior to Safari 3. If i were still on Windows it'd be my primary browser no doubt.

But on OS X Safari is still king for me with FF3 being the close second
 
mlarkin said:
Its over for FireFox. Safari has already won. And the next version of Safari will make this even more useless, desperate.

In two or three years, it won't even exist.
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I disagree. Firefox is an awesome piece of software to have around, because it makes Apple and Microsoft work harder on Safari and IE respectively so as to compete.

Same with OS X and Windows. One without the other would be hell as there's less incentive to do better when no competition exists.

In the end, the consumer wins by getting a better product.
 
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