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For reference, the initial Note 7 "overheating" issue started out as 1 in 40,000 devices. As more devices caught fire the ratio dropped down to 1 in 10,000 which was bad enough for Samsung to issue a full recall and cease production. So yeah, 4 devices so far out of a very small number of review units is pretty bad.

I appreciate your post, but it really doesn’t answer the questioned I posed earlier, like how many devices are actually out there in total they been manufactured that experienced this issue? You’re merely mudslinging based off what four devices experienced, but Nor does it address The magnitude of XYZ units produced. That said, it doesn’t take away that Samsung has a product that has a quality control issue either. The reality is, there’s two things that are not mutually exclusive in your post, a hardware defect with a device like the Galaxy fold and then a potential safety hazard with the Note 7.
 
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NOPE, not shocked at all! I knew this was a flawed idea!

I don’t think the ‘idea’ of a folding device is a flaw like you’re indicating, but it was not executed at a higher level either. I do think that the hardware obviously is not mature enough where the hardware engineers did not invest enough time with the R&D for durability and reliability. I think the potential is still there for a folding smart phone to be a better product, Samsung obviously has not proven that yet, but the idea of a folding smart phone definitely still has a future, and Huwaei has shown there involvement in addition.
 
This this happened with an Apple product, Apple would claim you dropped it or used it wrong in some way.
Yep and the best thing for Samsung to do at this time is acknowledge the issue whether people took a protective layer off the screen or not, own the situation and come up with a fix while replacing the review devices. The worst thing they can do is pull an Apple and blame the customer. Own it and come back better. According to the reviews this was a neat device so I don't think they should pull it at all. I'll buy gen 2 but I knew better than to buy and try a gen 1 device
 
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Folding a screen is kind of a stupid idea in the first place. Maybe this will make it all go away.
I wish, though strongly doubt.
This was expected. Too bad this product will remain proof of concept and foldable designs will not truly hit mainstream.

But wake me up when Apple's "improved" version is here...haha
Indeed, no reason to lose sleep over it anyway. This is just a silly wannabe fad to grab attention as smartphone tech plateaus. Sadly, as has been the trend recently, Tim will probably have Apple follow this idiotic train of thought.
 
People need to read the article to the end. It seems like the reviewers didn't read instructions and removed the protective film that SHOULDN'T be removed.
I'm an Apple fan, but it's still great to see innovations and hope that they do well.

Not all of them did that.

Also, not clear that the units, as they received them, all had the warning label.
 
I appreciate your post, but it really doesn’t answer the questioned I posed earlier, like how many devices are actually out there in total they been manufactured that experienced this issue? You’re merely mudslinging based off what four devices experienced, but Nor does it address The magnitude of XYZ units produced. That said, it doesn’t take away that Samsung has a product that has a quality control issue either. The reality is, there’s two things that are not mutually exclusive in your post, a hardware defect with a device like the Galaxy fold and then a potential safety hazard with the Note 7.

It doesn't matter how many have been manufactured - only how many are in actual use. And I'd bet $$$ that every single person/reviewer that has one has already posted an article about it. So 4 bad units out of a very small number of review units is very bad.
 
Yep and the best thing for Samsung to do at this time is acknowledge the issue whether people took a protective layer off the screen or not, own the situation and come up with a fix while replacing the review devices. The worst thing they can do is pull an Apple and blame the customer. Own it and come back better. According to the reviews this was a neat device so I don't think they should pull it at all. I'll buy gen 2 but I knew better than to buy and try a gen 1 device

Sure. Maybe they can fix it with a small piece of tape, like they did with the Note 5 when people were inserting the S-Pen in backwards and it was getting stuck. Or, they could have properly engineered the Note 5/S-Pen so it wouldn't even be possible to put in backwards in the first place.
 
So 4 bad units out of a very small number of review units is very bad.

Right, we already established this multiple times. It doesn’t look good for Samsung, we all get that. But what my point is and still suggests, for the amount of devices they produced and sold (Minus the reviewer devices), how many of them actually are considered defective. That _is_the question, and I gather you (Or others) don’t have quantitative data, but I still think it something that would be interesting to know at a later time when Samsung actually addresses the issue.
 
Sure. Maybe they can fix it with a small piece of tape, like they did with the Note 5 when people were inserting the S-Pen in backwards and it was getting stuck. Or, they could have properly engineered the Note 5/S-Pen so it wouldn't even be possible to put in backwards in the first place.
Or they can just play their customers like idiots by placing the blame on them while not owning any issues that arise. I mean I guess both ways could work, right?
Your comment has nothing to do with the Galaxy Fold or what I said. Seems I hurt your fragile feelings with what I said which I don't know how, I didn't lie
 
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Apple won't release a foldable phone/tablet, I believe, unless it can achieve something close to what is depicted in Westworld.
 
Imagine paying $2k on a phone just to have it break. Great quality control you got there Samsung.

There have been zero reports of phones which have been paid for breaking

Apple has over 30 class action suits for poor quality products
 
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. This doesn't fit a niche that is expressly needed by anyone, if they were truly being honest ... I can carry an iPad Mini and an iPhone .
If we are truly honest, the iPhone wasnt expressly needed by anyone nor was the iPad. People (consumers) have always been extremely close minded and always panic when they get offered a new product.

If companies listened to their clients you wouldn't have an iPhone and an iPad, you would have a flip phone and a laptop at best. Remember that thing about ford and horses?
 
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