That’s fine, new technology can fail sometimes.
At Apple, a keyboard design since 2016 is still failing!
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Critisism is absolutely ok, but bashing them is not really necessary.
The problem with what you posted above is that Jobs never blamed the user. Jobs never said what you claimed, which seems to be a fabrication particularly favored by the Apple-hate crowd.
What Jobs actually said was “Just avoid holding it in that way.”
Far from blaming the user, the statement acknowledges (albeit tacitly) that holding the phone in a certain way is, in fact, an issue, and offers a workaround. Jobs had a practical streak, so it’s not really that surprising that when a user complained that he had a problem when he held the phone in one specific way, that Jobs’ response was along the lines of “yes, so it’s best not to hold it in that one certain way.”
Jobs’ response wasn’t “the phone is fine, the problem is with you” or “why are you holding it like that” or “it’s your fault for holding it that way” or “you shouldn’t be holding it that way then” or “you’re holding it wrong”. Those are some examples of responses that reject that the iPhone itself is an issue, and instead places the blame squarely on the user.
With his answer, did he unfairly minimize the problem? Probably. Does his response put the onus on solving the problem on the user? Yup, sure does. Does his response unfairly blame the user for the problem when the true cause is the specific placement of the antenna inside the iPhone? No.
Honestly, a new innovative product like this will have issues, I praise Samsung for pushing out and showing willingness and investment into new ventures, even if it deems to be a fail in the end.
Apple on the otherside is still giving us 5400 RPM harddisks on their 4K Imacs in 2019, or they cramp in a brand new I9 into a macbook pro which never reaches its potential due lack of cooling and power supply.
Look i love apple, but you guys are quick to judge Samsung on this one. This is a brand new product in the market, i for one is super excited for this tech, and i hope it matures to a level that in a few years its so good everyone has it.
Apple on the otherside is still giving us 5400 RPM harddisks on their 4K Imacs in 2019, or they cramp in a brand new I9 into a macbook pro which never reaches its potential due lack of cooling and power supply.
Look i love apple, but you guys are quick to judge Samsung on this one. This is a brand new product in the market, i for one is super excited for this tech, and i hope it matures to a level that in a few years its so good everyone has it.
Your talking nonsense Samsung don't think they Diss apple for a notch with an advert then make one and no one says anything, they rush the market when its not ready is a stupid thing
blablabla..... I see another person not using its brain. Samsung is not after the same segment as apple supose to be.. I say suppose to be, because apple is not the apple anymore that we knew a few years ago.. They are dropping the ball far too often in the recent few years with a lot of their products.
I would never associate Samsung as a brand for professionals in editing of videos and photos, something that apple was renowned for years and years as THE platform for Graphical designers and people that wanted something exclusive and high quality.
Since the Iphone it all watered down perhaps to the level of Samsung some may dare to say.
Its not nonsense, its factual. They are the first to bring this product to the market, you can talk about the tasteless marketing off Samsung but that does not alter the fact that Samsung is innovating, it just does not fit your narrative. That also has nothing to do with this entire post, not sure if you are capable of conversing in this post.
But then again the internet is taken over by low educated plebs, so i will get some none-arguments back because no-one wants to be willing to listen to other peoples opinions especially if they are fact driven..
Also a alarming amount of people are very very sensitive to these very simple marketing techniques, that they get riled up from them, its like talking to people without any sense. Tasteless but very practical techniques to get people on a pedestal apparently.
Let me put it this way, Samsung is paving the way for hopefully Apple picking up this technique when its fully fleshed out..
But for now Apple let apple struggle on with their butterfly keyboards as that seems to be a big task for the current Apple already. Its the sad truth.
I am excited for new innovations, if they come from Apple, Samsung or someone else, they show a potential future i want to be part off.
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I think a lot of people suspected there would be problems with the fold but I'm a bit sad that so many units failed so quickly. I have no interest in "rubbing it in" in some Apple vs. the world kinda way. Releasing a product like this is brave. Most people won't be buying a folding phone anytime soon anyway. I was hoping for a better result.
Apple: Let's wait two more years, then we release a foldable iPhone and, as always, pretend that we totally invented this thing.
Yeah. Isn't it amazing? When you don't take a risk, not much can go wrong, can it?
A: Apple doesn't make displays and would probably source from Samsung when they do have a folding phone.
B. I'm would bet there are multiple folding screen prototypes at Apple now and they have realized its not quite ready.
C. There is a folded OLED display (albeit a stationary one) in every iPhone X/XS - its not like they are behind the curve
I'd rather they let Huawei and Samsung take the 'risk' , learn from them and release a much better product (like they did with Touch ID and Face ID for instance) then sell a obviously compromised product (like the early fingerprint phones and the still half baked face detection in current android phones)
We will just call it something else and people will either say we did it first or we did it right.
As you said Apple can’t make display so anything they have in their labs right now won’t be as functional as what Huwawei and Samsung have shown us.
Yes there are benefits to waiting for technology to mature but at the same time Apple couldn’t be first in many categories even if they wanted to because they have to rely on others to develop and manufacture the technology.
It looks hideous anyway - small front screen , too thick and I just can’t see how the screen will survive - I’m an engineer and living plastic hinges do fatigue and are just nasty -
I suppose there are flex circuits like you find in lap top hinges but they need a reasonable bend radius
I suppose there are flex circuits like you find in lap top hinges but they need a reasonable bend radius
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Well, my internal criticism of this device was just confirmed. There is a reason why there has been a push towards solid state devices with no moving parts. Moving parts fail way more than those that don't move.
Hard drives, disk drives, fans. Most laptops point of failure is the hinge. But now you have a polymer that is meant to 1) serve a mechanical purpose and 2) serve the purpose of the screen. Thats not good.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fracture_in_polymers
Hard drives, disk drives, fans. Most laptops point of failure is the hinge. But now you have a polymer that is meant to 1) serve a mechanical purpose and 2) serve the purpose of the screen. Thats not good.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fracture_in_polymers
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This was NOT on any of the review units send by Samsung. This has been repeated again and again, but people keep showing this picture.
a person buys a car, don't take cook care of it
now all those cars or all those models are bad or defective
maybe is true, but there is also a good possibility that reason why the car is having all those problems is because they way the owners threats their car
before blaming someone else always take a good look at yourself to see if you are doing something wrong
also any apple lover or samsung hater can come out with this made up story just to get clicks and also to give samsung bad reputation
the device was tested for I don't know how many open and close or fold times
but the device wasn't tested against caveman abuse
I don't have any samsung smart phone, I don't even like android
but let's hold our horses for a second
I think this is just media hype
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now all those cars or all those models are bad or defective
maybe is true, but there is also a good possibility that reason why the car is having all those problems is because they way the owners threats their car
before blaming someone else always take a good look at yourself to see if you are doing something wrong
also any apple lover or samsung hater can come out with this made up story just to get clicks and also to give samsung bad reputation
the device was tested for I don't know how many open and close or fold times
but the device wasn't tested against caveman abuse
I don't have any samsung smart phone, I don't even like android
but let's hold our horses for a second
I think this is just media hype
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samsung batteries exploded and iPhones and iPad bent easily, they both have defects, let's be fair
Review units were European models, US models have this. Go figure.
Whilst the results does look bad for Samsung, the process of giving out 'review' units is still part of the long and on going process of Quality Assurance. Samsung proved proof of concept at the trade shows were it was revealed. These would have prototypes which those wanting to review would have been told to handle extremely carefully. The next process would be to make a number of 'review' samples, given to well known tech reviewers to see how they handle in the 'real world', but it would seem these 'review' samples are not holding out very well.
Look at Apples Airpower, they did exactly the same, got to the stage of review samples, found units still got very hot, apple engineers could not solve the issue so apple scrapped the complete project. Could this be the same for Samsung with the foldable phone.
Look at Apples Airpower, they did exactly the same, got to the stage of review samples, found units still got very hot, apple engineers could not solve the issue so apple scrapped the complete project. Could this be the same for Samsung with the foldable phone.