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My iPhone 5 iOS 7 was replaced with iOS 6...

C DM said:
I can't say I recall any real noticeable issues with iOS 6.0, at least nothing on the level that is being seen with iOS 7.0 (or even 7.1 so far).
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The real question is how far is 7.0 from 6.0 compared to 5.0.

It's one thing to add new features every new version but it's another to change the core architecture.

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thedeejay said:
My intention wasn't to compare 6.1.4 but it came with that so I did. Anyways, even if we compare 6.0, in terms of speed and functionality it is a bit faster. When we had 6.0 we didn't notice but now that we're on 7, it's definitely noticeable. Not do or die, but when you see someone with 6 it's like "Oh man, that's so quick".

That being said I thought I would "miss" iOS 7 but so far nothing yet. Except for the few times I've tried to use control centre.
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Oh I know what you're saying. I wasn't pointing fingers at you it's just we see a lot of threads of people comparing iOS 7.0.4 to 6.1.4 and it's really not a fair comparisoin as 7 has not had a few revisions (7.1.X).

Yes, iOS 6.x was fast. No question there. It was also boring and mostly unchanged since the introduction of iOS. my guess is iOS 8 will be much faster than iOS 7.
 
Armen said:
The real question is how far is 7.0 from 6.0 compared to 5.0.

It's one thing to add new features every new version but it's another to change the core architecture.
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changing the core architecture is not an excuse for ios7 sluggishness. in such case ios7 must be faster than ios6 because of the new improved core.
 
My wife just got a replacement 5 (cracked screen) from Apple and it had iOS 6. The very first thing I did was update the software. I thought it looked old compared to iOS 7. Besides, restoring from backup was impossible without doing that anyway.
 
I don't think Apple should update the IOS until it is polished to a point where it is at least as fast and operates at least as well as the previous IOS.

I am not in any rush to get a new IOS until it is vetted.

Armen said:
I love how everyone compares iOS 7.0.4 (not even close to being polished yet) to iOS 6.1.4 (which was the final build of 6).
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My iPhone 5 iOS 7 was replaced with iOS 6...damn

3bs said:
Stable you say? https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1643168/



I've experienced this on 2 5S' I've tried and same thing happens on my friends iPhone 5.
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That's a 6 page thread demonstrating a lot of different crashing behaviour in different circumstances, with probably a wide range of causes including hardware in some cases. What is this repeatable crash that you can apparently perform on an iPhone 5? Perhaps we could all try it? Since updating mine at the launch of IOS 7 I think I've only encountered one early glitch - nothing compared to some of the behaviour of previous versions I've seen.
 
Armen said:
I love how everyone compares iOS 7.0.4 (not even close to being polished yet) to iOS 6.1.4 (which was the final build of 6).
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It's a public build preinstalled in devices sold at a premium price. Dammit.
 
I7guy said:
IOS 7 is plenty fast. No sluggishness whatsoever. It's more stable than IOS 6. For all the crashes, safari crashes less.
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This. I'm really puzzled by some of the comments here about the "speed" of IOS 6, I've noticed no slowdown at all. I suspect some people are just hypersensitive to the *perceived* speed of some animations..
 
3bs said:
Stable you say? https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1643168/

I've experienced this on 2 5S' I've tried and same thing happens on my friends iPhone 5.
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I had my share of issues on IOS 6 also. In fact safari crashes on IOS 6 was the biggest, single frustration. I didn't really experience random reboots under IOS 6 and don't experience them under IOS 7. Under IOS 7 there are more native app crashes, but less safari crashes than IOS 6. Under IOS 6 safari crashed with impunity, but native apps rarely.
 
I7guy said:
I had my share of issues on IOS 6 also. In fact safari crashes on IOS 6 was the biggest, single frustration. I didn't really experience random reboots under IOS 6 and don't experience them under IOS 7. Under IOS 7 there are more native app crashes, but less safari crashes than IOS 6. Under IOS 6 safari crashed with impunity, but native apps rarely.
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Safari practically never crashes for me in iOS 6, but is something that happens fairly regularly in iOS 7. Performing a simple built-in OS task like just bringing down the notification center would certainly never cause the phone to crash in iOS 6, while in iOS 7 that has happened way too many times for me already.

So, are there people who had issues with iOS 6 but now have less of them in iOS 7? Sure. But there seem to be more people that had no issues or certainly less of them in iOS 7 compared to what they deal with in iOS 7.
 
C DM said:
Safari practically never crashes for me in iOS 6, but is something that happens fairly regularly in iOS 7. Performing a simple built-in OS task like just bringing down the notification center would certainly never cause the phone to crash in iOS 6, while in iOS 7 that has happened way too many times for me already.



So, are there people who had issues with iOS 6 but now have less of them in iOS 7? Sure. But there seem to be more people that had no issues or certainly less of them in iOS 7 compared to what they deal with in iOS 7.
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Honestly I think it's a perception thing. IOS 7 is very obviously *different*, it's controversial, people are acutely aware they are using it and many are very sensitised to it and any possible imperfection. When or if it crashes or does something strange, people notice. They post here. It's a Big Deal (tm).

There's also more than a touch of rose tinted spectacles being donned in regard to the older versions. As someone who had problems with IOS 6 and was very aware of the very many issues reported with that OS when it was released and for a long time after, I'm nothing more than amused by the pervading view here now that it was the flawless "old reliable" - the fact that you had no problems with it is no more decisive than the fact that I have no problems with IOS 7, a cursory search of any IOS forum would show that many people have experienced serous issues with *every* IOS release.
 
Dented said:
Honestly I think it's a perception thing. IOS 7 is very obviously *different*, it's controversial, people are acutely aware they are using it and many are very sensitised to it and any possible imperfection. When or if it crashes or does something strange, people notice. They post here. It's a Big Deal (tm).

There's also more than a touch of rose tinted spectacles being donned in regard to the older versions. As someone who had problems with IOS 6 and was very aware of the very many issues reported with that OS when it was released and for a long time after, I'm nothing more than amused by the pervading view here now that it was the flawless "old reliable" - the fact that you had no problems with it is no more decisive than the fact that I have no problems with IOS 7, a cursory search of any IOS forum would show that many people have experienced serous issues with *every* IOS release.
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It's more of a perception thing on the part of the people who just don't want to believe that iOS 7 can actually be less stable than it should be and than previous versions, at least for some if not a lot of people. I certainly don't pretend or imagine seeing the phone respring at least once every few days, when for a fact that happened extremely rarely with previous iOS versions.
 
C DM said:
It's more of a perception thing on the part of the people who just don't want to believe that iOS 7 can actually be less stable than it should be and than previous versions, at least for some if not a lot of people. I certainly don't pretend or imagine seeing the phone respring at least once every few days, when for a fact that happened extremely rarely with previous iOS versions.
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I can't remember IOS 7 respringing. It could be the way I use the phone vs other people.
 
Dented said:
Honestly I think it's a perception thing. IOS 7 is very obviously *different*, it's controversial, people are acutely aware they are using it and many are very sensitised to it and any possible imperfection. When or if it crashes or does something strange, people notice. They post here. It's a Big Deal (tm).

There's also more than a touch of rose tinted spectacles being donned in regard to the older versions. As someone who had problems with IOS 6 and was very aware of the very many issues reported with that OS when it was released and for a long time after, I'm nothing more than amused by the pervading view here now that it was the flawless "old reliable" - the fact that you had no problems with it is no more decisive than the fact that I have no problems with IOS 7, a cursory search of any IOS forum would show that many people have experienced serous issues with *every* IOS release.
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Agreed, it was the same when IOS 6 came out. When IOS 8 comes out people will be reliving the good old days of IOS 7....Fact of the matter is that IOS is much more stable at this point 90 days out the door than IOS 6 was at the same point. Are there IOS 7 issues? Yes, of course but IOS 6 was worse when it first came out. Personally IOS 7 for me has been very solid. 7.1 B1 is even better than 7.0.4 but 7.0.4 is very polished. The negative IOS 7 posts that we read here are normal for a new IOS but for the most part there are millions who are using it everyday trouble free. Look back in the IOS 6 forum and you can read endless complaints of crashes and people wanting IOS 5 back. It's the nature of the beast, always greener on the other side.
 
Same thing happened to me not 2 weeks ago. I had my iPhone 5 replaced, and it came with iOS 6 :D

I'm not upgrading this time :D
 
Iphone 4s with ios 6 is much faster then 5 and ios 7. I hope they will solve this in next few updates.
When I say faster I mean entering contacts, entering settings, messages...
 
gpat said:
It's a public build preinstalled in devices sold at a premium price. Dammit.
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What type of argument is that? If Apple held off on releasing iOS 7 until it was as polished as the final version of 6 you wouldn't have seen an iPhone 5S or iOS 7 until next year.

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jsf721 said:
I don't think Apple should update the IOS until it is polished to a point where it is at least as fast and operates at least as well as the previous IOS.

I am not in any rush to get a new IOS until it is vetted.
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What most people don't seem to understand is that Apple in such a short time frame put out a brand new iOS version. They didnt just add Apple maps and call it iOS 6. A lot of the core framework was reworked. With that being said I can wait for patches to make it smoother/faster.

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FFF84 said:
changing the core architecture is not an excuse for ios7 sluggishness. in such case ios7 must be faster than ios6 because of the new improved core.
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So you're not giving Apple any credit at all for releasing a new version of iOS in such a short time frame without a disasterous outcome?

I guess I'm more understanding because I work in the software industry as well.
 
klogg said:
Iphone 4s with ios 6 is much faster then 5 and ios 7. I hope they will solve this in next few updates.
When I say faster I mean entering contacts, entering settings, messages...
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If you're honestly trying to say that you can enter messages or start a new contact or whatever faster on your 4S than I can on my 5 running IOS 7... Nope. Sorry. That's nonsense. The things you're talking about are absolutely instant on my phone, unless IOS 6 bends time in some way you won't be doing them faster.
 
I personally don't think that iOS 7 sucks I just think that it doesn't have anything insane that makes someone like myself upgrade. Part of the reason could be because I have an iPad with iOS 7, so I have the best of both worlds.

To be fair, I really like the redesign unlike other people who bash on safari and other icons. I don't really mind it.

I would've thought that I would upgrade soon, but after playing around with iOS 6 a bit I realized I don't really miss much. Partially because I'm calendar dependant - but I really hope that changes with further improvements and refinements with future iOS updates.
 
C DM said:
It's more of a perception thing on the part of the people who just don't want to believe that iOS 7 can actually be less stable than it should be and than previous versions, at least for some if not a lot of people. I certainly don't pretend or imagine seeing the phone respring at least once every few days, when for a fact that happened extremely rarely with previous iOS versions.
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You're entitled to your view but the thing is, I really don't believe the people you're describing exist. I think even the most ardent admirer of IOS 7 willingly accepts and understands that as a major new branch of IOS it's going to have some bugs. It's the people struggling with the new look and feel that see those bugs as anything out of the ordinary.
 
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