'N42' iPhone 5 to Reportedly Launch at Same Pricing as iPhone 4S

[Geckotek]

He doesn't. It's not a question of who wouldn't, it's a question of why would Apple do that. Why would Apple offer the 32gb for $199 when they will easily sell it at the $299 price point?

Because their cost has come down and usually, if you want to keep customers coming back, you pass on cost savings to the customer. They made plenty of profit at last year's prices. The cost of NAND MLC has dropped considerably. So if possible, it's in Apple's best interest to bring prices back in line to reflect that.

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If that is true I am waiting for the iPhone 6, 64 GB over 3 Generations is rediculous. More than 2 years after introduction of the 64 GB iPhone 4s we have still max of 64 GB...? Come on. Innovation?

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

And since we don't have an iPhone 6 yet, you are raging over something that is a year away from being announced.

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same here. Does anyone else hate the speaker grill? Looks cheap and tacky to me.

Nope, looks grate.

 

[EvanBlive91]

Still the same...really

The launch is already mounting up to be rather mediocre, and now we have to deal with the same storage capacities...after the retina display quadrupaling app sizes, after icloud shoving photostream into my memory, after the retina ipad forcing devs to quadruple app binary sizes for universal apps. This is getting to be some BS. New ipods (that most wont need if they have an iphone) will be cool and maybe some of the itunes services, but iphone hardware and the iOS front is looking to be dissapointing.

 

[lazard]

Because their cost has come down and usually, if you want to keep customers coming back, you pass on cost savings to the customer. They made plenty of profit at last year's prices. The cost of NAND MLC has dropped considerably. So if possible, it's in Apple's best interest to bring prices back in line to reflect that.

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I don't think that word means what you think it means.

And since we don't have an iPhone 6 yet, you are raging over something that is a year away from being announced.

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Nope, looks grate.

kind of adorable that you would think that Apple would pass down savings to the consumer rather than pocket it for themselves. Companies are always looking for ways to increase profit margins...not decrease or stay the same.

 

[Geckotek]

kind of adorable that you would think that Apple would pass down savings to the consumer rather than pocket it for themselves. Companies are always looking for ways to increase profit margins...not decrease or stay the same.

You say that like we've never seen an increase in storage at the same price as last year's model.

 

[fabianjj]

Not if you don't use iClound which I don't because I travel internationally a lot and need memory on the device.

And also, isn't the point of iCloud to make sure all your data actually is on all your devices?

I don't use iCloud for anything else but backup (Google synchs my mail, contacts, and calendars just fine), but I have never seen Apple demonstrate it in any other way than just to push all ones data to all ones devices. So if iCloud is to have any effect on the amount of needed local storage, it would be driving towards bigger local drives.

 

[gri]

Stop the whining. Storage will stay the same, and for good reasons. #1 Plenty of folks (casual users) will never need more than 16 GB. # 2 If you do need more, you can have more as 32 and 64 GB models are available. # 3 The niche of people who "need" 128 GB in their phone is extremely small; even most power users would get the 64 GB anyway as it's enough for 99,9% of users. So it would be really stupid for Apple to go to 32/64/128 as it would only result in a lot of unused space on the entry model and very few sales of the top model.

I got TOM TOM for north America and western Europe which alone takes several GB, I cannot put all my music on it anymore because it goes over capacity. Yes, I want more RAM.

 

[Nungster]

N42 !!! Rule 42!!!

The next iPhone will be "A Mile High" and must leave the courtroom!!!!!

 

[gri]

Read my post again... Maybe keeping up do date is a better phrase than innovation, I agree with that.

 

[bbeagle]

If that is true I am waiting for the iPhone 6, 64 GB over 3 Generations is ridiculous. More than 2 years after introduction of the 64 GB iPhone 4s we have still max of 64 GB...? Come on. Innovation?

Oh, and 'Innovation' is making a 128 GB iPhone. Really? That's not innovation, it's simply an upgrade.

 

[Geckotek]

Read my post again... Maybe keeping up do date is a better phrase than innovation, I agree with that.

Keeping up with who by doing what? Are there a lot of 128GB phones out there today?

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a 128GB iPhone, but I think your complaint is misplaced.

 

[humpstyles]

Arbitrary question:

I've used an OtterBox on my 4 and 4S to ensure my phone would always be safe; however, it's bulky and ruins the beauty of the iphone.

Do you guys think that the 5 will be strong enough to use without a case? (The glass screen seems more embedded in the phone, the unibody casting, gorilla glass 2, etc.)

 

[gri]

Keeping up with who by doing what? Are there a lot of 128GB phones out there today?

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a 128GB iPhone, but I think your complaint is misplaced.

No idea how many there are, correct. But let's see, the battery life of the 4s is not as good as the 4 I understand. Screen gives us one more row of apps, RAM stays the same since 3 generations - if all is true and there is nothing else really remarkable I call this incremental increase. Maybe we have to get used to that which means the times when Apple was light years ahead in innovation are possibly over.

 

[sfrancis928]

I don't know why, but every time I look at the leaked iPhone 5 design, I cringe. It doesn't seem like a product Apple would sell. It looks odd.

Haha, that's what everybody said about the 4. Remember?

 

[Shearwater]

I would rather wait another 6 months for a radical new iPhone rather than the lame,stretched,rumoured design!

 

[linkismyhero]

Launch prices for the lowest memory iPhone since the iPhone 3G:

8GB iPhone 3G - $199
16GB iPhone 3GS - $199
16GB iPhone 4- $199
16GB iPhone 4S - $199

I agree, it's time for Apple to up the minimum. Plus a 32GB new iPhone priced at the same level as a 16GB Galaxy SIII would surely give Apple an (albeit temporary) step-up over the competition. Currently most contract phones sold at a $199 price point only have 16GB of internal memory.

 

[Surely]

Umm, he means the 32GB would replace the 16GB model, at the same price point. Would you not take double the storage for the same price?

Exactly.

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Why? Not all of us need 32gb.

See above.

I think the point is that you should be able to get the 32gb for the same price as the 16gb now.

Exactly again.

16GB is not adequate anymore. Seriously, is the 32GB chip that much more than the 16GB chip? No. Profits, profits, and that rights, profits.

Agreed. For me, 32GB is the sweet spot.

So, if you have the option between $199 for 16GB and $199 for 32GB, you'd pick the 16GB? Really?

lol exactly.

16GB is their biggest seller because it's the least expensive, NOT because it's the ideal storage option.

I agree with that.

though i don't disagree with you, 16 is enough for most iPhone owners.

Proof?

Why should they when people are willing to extra $100 for it?

Yeah, you're probably right about that. Profits are more important than anything else for a public company.

Maybe they will. The memory amounts are speculation by Macrumors.

That's true. Hopefully this rumor is wrong, and we'll see a $199 32GB model. I don't have high hopes though....

 

[plymman]

iOS 6 will add wireless streaming from iCloud. No need to download the songs to the device. If music takes up a big hunk of your storage, there ya go

Also cleaning out the photos helps. I realized I had a crap ton of photos sitting on my phone that were also viewable from my photo stream. Cleaned off nearly 4GB.

That said if they offer 32gb as the low end I'll be ecstatic. More room for apps!

Given that most 'unlimited' data packages have a 1 or 2gb cap, that would soon be eaten up streaming the amount of music I listen to. That's a big enough issue for me without getting into the issue of poor reception areas and data roaming charges when I'm out of the country.

 

[Geckotek]

No idea how many there are, correct. But let's see, the battery life of the 4s is not as good as the 4 I understand. Screen gives us one more row of apps, RAM stays the same since 3 generations - if all is true and there is nothing else really remarkable I call this incremental increase. Maybe we have to get used to that which means the times when Apple was light years ahead in innovation are possibly over.

Ram has only been the same for 2 generations so far (4 and 4s both has 512MB)
There were tons of upgrades from the 4 to the 4s.
Battery went down on the 4s, mostly when using 3G data and therefore likely due to the upgraded radio (7.2 Mbps HSPA vs 14.4 Mbps HSPA+)

Being light years ahead will never be something that is consistent every release or every other release. I would guess every 4-5 years we can expect to see something truly innovative.

 

[linkismyhero]

Given that most 'unlimited' data packages have a 1 or 2gb cap, that would soon be eaten up streaming the amount of music I listen to. That's a big enough issue for me without getting into the issue of poor reception areas and data roaming charges when I'm out of the country.

Yeah, I've got "unlimited" on AT&T, and get capped at 3GB. That said, if the new iPhone is truly 4G LTE, the cap on LTE unlimited data plans is 5GB. Good news for me.

That said, I don't ever do cloud streaming, I just set iTunes to convert all tracks being copied to the iPhone down to 192Kbps AAC to save space. On my Klipsch earbuds/Pioneer headphones, I can't tell much of a difference.

 

[Nungster]

Arbitrary question:

I've used an OtterBox on my 4 and 4S to ensure my phone would always be safe; however, it's bulky and ruins the beauty of the iphone.

Do you guys think that the 5 will be strong enough to use without a case? (The glass screen seems more embedded in the phone, the unibody casting, gorilla glass 2, etc.)

Try a Lifeproof case next. I use an Otterbox and am switching to Lifeproof. Two guys I work with dive with theirs LOL

 

[clibinarius]

Why? 16GB is fine for me. In fact, I'll be ordering three of them. Why would you want to take that option away from me?

Nice troll!

In all fairness, I think 16Gig should be the iPhone 4S. This is just...ugh, I really doubt I'm upgrading my iPhone.

 

[plymman]

He doesn't. It's not a question of who wouldn't, it's a question of why would Apple do that. Why would Apple offer the 32gb for $199 when they will easily sell it at the $299 price point?

Why would Apple do it? Maybe Apple have taken note of what has happened to the HTC one X. It's arguably a better phone than the Galaxy S3 (better screen, better camera etc..) but it's sales figures are a flop compared to the S3 running the same OS. The biggest reason for people avoiding the HTC are the 16GB size limit with no micro SD slot. Tech forum's are full of people saying that's the main reason they got the Galaxy instead. If Apple take any notice of the sales figures of the various Android devices I think that would be reason enough to start at 32GB for the price of last years 16GB.

 

[dewski]

why would apple take notice of sales figures from anyone? dont they have the best selling phone in the history of the universe?

 

[iSpud]

Like other's have said, it seems like the 64GB barrier is hard to cross. It seems like forever that it's been 16/32/64 (although in reality a few years)

I can't wait for 256/512/1TB

But with cloud services taking off, the race to ever larger capacities seems like the MHz war in the late 90s

Mhz War is to Multiple Cores
as
Flash Capacity is to Cloud Services

 

[Otterblue]

Unlocked prices?