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Native apps do not load

Timver said:
I just realized I did one thing different than the original steps. I set up the watch as new, didn't want to risk it with putting a backup on the watch.
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I shall follow your example. Tbh thats not a real hardship. My Activity data is all on my phone anyway.

I have taken the additional step of deleting the WatchOS2 apps I am missing the most from my iTunes library. I shall install them manually once the backup is restored. About 78gb to restore before I can report my findings
 
Anybody else try this latest trick? Not sure how this differs from wiping both devices to new state and starting fresh as I did. Storm from WeatherUnderground updated their app yesterday to include watch support, it too doesn't work.
 
Timver said:
I'm doing this as we speak and I hope it works but I can confirm that your native apps work if you just set your iPhone and Watch up as new devices.
So if my native apps fail to load when I've done all the steps I'm going to set my devices up as new devices because I'm just sick of waiting for a fix.

EDIT: It looks like it's working! Swarm works anyway, other apps are still downloading!
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Can you post a detailed step by step please? His instructions were not clear and rather confusing on how to do his fix
 
lamonsas said:
Can you post a detailed step by step please? His instructions were not clear and rather confusing on how to do his fix
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Here's exactly how I did it:

1- Go to the Watch-app on your iPhone, go to 'General', scroll to the bottom and erase all content and settings from your Apple Watch
2- Connect your iPhone to your Mac/PC and backup your iPhone to iTunes
3- Go to the settings on your iPhone, 'General', scroll to the bottom and press 'Erase all settings', NOT erase all content.
4- The phone reboots, then I set the iPhone up as a new Phone (General, scroll to the bottom and press 'Erase All Content and Settings')
5- iPhone will restart, when It's ready, pair your iPhone with your Watch. You can download an iPhone app like Swarm to test if the native apps work on the Watch, they should work.
6- Erase all Content and Settings from your Watch using the Settings on the Watch.
7- Erase all Content and Settings from your iPhone using the Settings on the iPhone.
8- Your iPhone will reboot, restore your iPhone from the backup you made in iTunes.
9- Pair your Watch as a new Watch, not from a backup.
 
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Timver said:
A little more than 1 hour (with downloading apps etc. but I have really fast internet here + not that many apps (±10GB))
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"4- The phone reboots, then I set the iPhone up as a new Phone (General, scroll to the bottom and press 'Erase All Content and Settings')
5- paired watch as brand new"

So after you set up the phone as new in step 4 you go once again to general and erase all content and settings? Don't you have to set up the phone as new again once you do that?
 
lamonsas said:
"4- The phone reboots, then I set the iPhone up as a new Phone (General, scroll to the bottom and press 'Erase All Content and Settings')
5- paired watch as brand new"

So after you set up the phone as new in step 4 you go once again to general and erase all content and settings? Don't you have to set up the phone as new again once you do that?
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When you erased all content and settings, you can connect your Apple Watch to the iPhone.
 
Hasn't worked, again. lol. Tried Carrot Weather and Dark sky, Both exhibit the exact same behaviour as before.

I will just wait patiently for Apple to fix this.
 
maniacfive said:
Hasn't worked, again. lol. Tried Carrot Weather and Dark sky, Both exhibit the exact same behaviour as before.

I will just wait patiently for Apple to fix this.
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Have you tried my instructions with first resetting the settings, and then clearing the entire phone?
 
i dont understand this part:

"3- Go to the settings on your iPhone, 'General', scroll to the bottom and press 'Erase all settings', NOT erase all content.
4- The phone reboots, then I set the iPhone up as a new Phone (General, scroll to the bottom and press 'Erase All Content and Settings')"

when you do erase all settings, your phone reboots, correct? then you need to set up the iphone as new? and then when you set up the iphone as new you go AGAIN to general and do an erase all content and settings?

when you set up the phone as new are you enabling location services, enabling siri? maybe that stuff makes a difference too in the process.
 
lamonsas said:
i dont understand this part:

"3- Go to the settings on your iPhone, 'General', scroll to the bottom and press 'Erase all settings', NOT erase all content.
4- The phone reboots, then I set the iPhone up as a new Phone (General, scroll to the bottom and press 'Erase All Content and Settings')"

when you do erase all settings, your phone reboots, correct? then you need to set up the iphone as new? and then when you set up the iphone as new you go AGAIN to general and do an erase all content and settings?
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1. Reset Settings, Phone reboots and everything is still there.
2. Reset content and settings, phone reboots and the 'Hello-screen' appears to set it up as new. You don't have to do it again after that (where do you read that? What part of the instruction is unclear? Maybe I can change the text if it's not clear for other people. (English isn't my native language)). Now pair your Apple Watch with the iPhone and download an app that's native to Watch OS2 to test if it's working.
 
Timver said:
1. Reset Settings, Phone reboots and everything is still there.
2. Reset content and settings, phone reboots and the 'Hello-screen' appears to set it up as new. You don't have to do it again after that (where do you read that? What part of the instruction is unclear? Maybe I can change the text if it's not clear for other people. (English isn't my native language)). Now pair your Apple Watch with the iPhone and download an app that's native to Watch OS2 to test if it's working.
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And when you set up the phone as new, do you enable Siri, location services?
 
Timver said:
Here's exactly how I did it:

1- Go to the Watch-app on your iPhone, go to 'General', scroll to the bottom and erase all content and settings from your Apple Watch
2- Connect your iPhone to your Mac/PC and backup your iPhone to iTunes
3- Go to the settings on your iPhone, 'General', scroll to the bottom and press 'Erase all settings', NOT erase all content.
4- The phone reboots, then I set the iPhone up as a new Phone (General, scroll to the bottom and press 'Erase All Content and Settings')
5- iPhone will restart, when It's ready, pair your iPhone with your Watch. You can download an iPhone app like Swarm to test if the native apps work on the Watch, they should work.
6- Erase all Content and Settings from your Watch using the Settings on the Watch.
7- Erase all Content and Settings from your iPhone using the Settings on the iPhone.
8- Your iPhone will reboot, restore your iPhone from the backup you made in iTunes.
9- Pair your Watch as a new Watch, not from a backup.
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I'm confused about steps 6-9. It seems that after you determine a formerly crashing app works in step 5 by doing a download direct to your phone that you AGAIN then erase both watch and phone and back up the phone with all of your previously backed up content including the problematic apps via restore from backup in iTunes. Followed by pairing and setting up the watch as new with the phone after the phone has been restored from the iTunes back up. Is that correct?

In other words the formerly crashing apps now make it back on your phone via the back up and then on your watch (paired as new) after you've done this extensive process, correct?
 
DAWNY said:
I'm confused about steps 6-9. It seems that after you determine a formerly crashing app works in step 5 by doing a download direct to your phone that you AGAIN then erase both watch and phone and back up the phone with all of your previously backed up content including the problematic apps via restore from backup in iTunes. Followed by pairing and setting up the watch as new with the phone after the phone has been restored from the iTunes back up. Is that correct?

In other words the formerly crashing apps now make it back on your phone via the back up and then on your watch (paired as new) after you've done this extensive process, correct?
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Correct. The backup does not include the apps (or at least with me it didn't), it downloads them again so you have fresh downloads. The backup only contains logins, settings, etc. so if it downloads the new apps you don't have to login again on all the apps.
 
Timver said:
Correct. The backup does not include the apps (or at least with me it didn't), it downloads them again so you have fresh downloads. The backup only contains logins, settings, etc. so if it downloads the new apps you don't have to login again on all the apps.
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Sorry, I'm still confused. In step 2 when you did the backup of your phone on your computer in iTunes, why wouldn't the apps also back up? Had you deleted them from your phone before this back up? Otherwise why wouldn't they still be there? You didn't mention downloading all fresh copies of the formerly crashing apps, but now I'm assuming you must have done that at some point? And it would seem you had to do that within iTunes since the final steps involved apps coming onto the watch from the iTunes backup.
 
DAWNY said:
Sorry, I'm still confused. In step 2 when you did the backup of your phone on your computer in iTunes, why wouldn't the apps also back up? Had you deleted them from your phone before this back up? Otherwise why wouldn't they still be there? You didn't mention downloading all fresh copies of the formerly crashing apps, but now I'm assuming you must have done that at some point? And it would seem you had to do that within iTunes since the final steps involved apps coming onto the watch from the iTunes backup.
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The apps never backup if I make a backup, I thought that was standard behaviour. When you put the backup back on your iPhone, the icons are still there but greyed out and it immediately starts downloading the apps again from the App Store. I presume that Apple does it this way to limit the size of the backup.
 
DAWNY said:
Sorry, I'm still confused. In step 2 when you did the backup of your phone on your computer in iTunes, why wouldn't the apps also back up? Had you deleted them from your phone before this back up? Otherwise why wouldn't they still be there? You didn't mention downloading all fresh copies of the formerly crashing apps, but now I'm assuming you must have done that at some point? And it would seem you had to do that within iTunes since the final steps involved apps coming onto the watch from the iTunes backup.
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This is a recent change, unfortunately.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7218373
 
Aluminum213 said:
What do you guys mean native apps don't load?

I've used PCalc which is now native and it loads
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The problem is not happening to everyone. In my case all of the apps that have complications designed to work with Apple Watch OS 2 will not work. They all crash while trying to open. The only other app I have which is doing the same thing is the Apple store app.
 
DAWNY said:
The problem is not happening to everyone. In my case all of the apps that have complications designed to work with Apple Watch OS 2 will not work. They all crash while trying to open. The only other app I have which is doing the same thing is the Apple store app.
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I wonder how widespread this is that Apple hasn't patched it yet
 
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