if you reasonably use it there's no way they will know. its people that call att that draws attention to the situation.
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NetShare iPhone Tethering App Reappears in App Store [Updated]
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if you reasonably use it there's no way they will know. its people that call att that draws attention to the situation.
I would imagine that because it is on the App Store, it is sanctioned by Apple, and is in the iPhone area of the store. Since Apple is the exclusive provider of Applications for the iPhone, I believe we should be able to assume that AT&T authorizes the Application's use on the server until such a time AT&T informs us otherwise.
With AT&T you have to pay a monthly fee for tethering.
Anyways, I can find the app by searching for it...
Ok well after much noobing around I have it working on my MBAir.
Couple of points...
The tutorial on the first page is nice, but he leaves out that yes, you need to enter the proxy port of 1080 in your network settings. No big deal, but if you're new to this it might throw you.
Secondly, the poster that pointed out you need to disable wireless altogether until 3G or EDGE comes active, and THEN bump back to the Proxy SOCK is correct. This is what was keeping me from getting it to work.
Lastly, this is a great idea for an application, and should they get it working as well as it seems it could, I'll be ditching my 3G air card and going completely tetherful (is that a word?) for my wireless needs throughout the day as I do business.
Couple of points...
The tutorial on the first page is nice, but he leaves out that yes, you need to enter the proxy port of 1080 in your network settings. No big deal, but if you're new to this it might throw you.
Secondly, the poster that pointed out you need to disable wireless altogether until 3G or EDGE comes active, and THEN bump back to the Proxy SOCK is correct. This is what was keeping me from getting it to work.
Lastly, this is a great idea for an application, and should they get it working as well as it seems it could, I'll be ditching my 3G air card and going completely tetherful (is that a word?) for my wireless needs throughout the day as I do business.
To all of you saying AT&T can't find you
The fact that this is not true tethering DOES NOT, I repeat, DOES NOT prevent them from finding out that you are using this internet sharing app.
Simply put, the iPhone is a device of limited capability. Many people have said they want to use this for WoW.
Do you honestly believe they can't check the ports and server addresses of their logs and locate people who have.. "somehow".. managed to log into WoW on their iPhone?
Or better yet, set up something on their side to detect and police people's accounts if they do?
The simple fact is, you cannot rely on a lack of NAT to protect you.
Simply hooking my laptop up to the internet at all gets Dropbox, MobileMe and many other services that are part of my machine running.
How easy would it be for AT&T to isolate certain aspects of the Windows & Mac operating systems that perform certain operations when they connect to the internet, and use that to recognize people who are sharing their internet connection with a laptop?
Stop all this silliness.
If you want to use it, use it, but don't assume AT&T can't find out who each and every person is that downloads and uses this application.
The fact that this is not true tethering DOES NOT, I repeat, DOES NOT prevent them from finding out that you are using this internet sharing app.
Simply put, the iPhone is a device of limited capability. Many people have said they want to use this for WoW.
Do you honestly believe they can't check the ports and server addresses of their logs and locate people who have.. "somehow".. managed to log into WoW on their iPhone?
Or better yet, set up something on their side to detect and police people's accounts if they do?
The simple fact is, you cannot rely on a lack of NAT to protect you.
Simply hooking my laptop up to the internet at all gets Dropbox, MobileMe and many other services that are part of my machine running.
How easy would it be for AT&T to isolate certain aspects of the Windows & Mac operating systems that perform certain operations when they connect to the internet, and use that to recognize people who are sharing their internet connection with a laptop?
Stop all this silliness.
If you want to use it, use it, but don't assume AT&T can't find out who each and every person is that downloads and uses this application.
Windows XP Effort
I tried to setup this up with my work laptop and I can get everything connected and seeing each other, but it will not load a webpage. I don't get an error or anything, just some wierd symbol at the top left corner of the IE window which tells me everything is ok with the connection.
-I went into TCP/IP settings and set a manual IP address 192.168.10.2.
-Setup a computer to computer Wi-Fi connections.
-Connected my iPhone to Wi-Fi connection.
-Put Static IP address on iPhone as 192.168.10.1
-Setup Proxy in IE to 192.168.10.1 Port 1080.
And nothing, I just get that funky symbol in IE. Don't know much about networking and this whole SOCKS5 Proxy, but not sure if this exists for Windows.
I tried to setup this up with my work laptop and I can get everything connected and seeing each other, but it will not load a webpage. I don't get an error or anything, just some wierd symbol at the top left corner of the IE window which tells me everything is ok with the connection.
-I went into TCP/IP settings and set a manual IP address 192.168.10.2.
-Setup a computer to computer Wi-Fi connections.
-Connected my iPhone to Wi-Fi connection.
-Put Static IP address on iPhone as 192.168.10.1
-Setup Proxy in IE to 192.168.10.1 Port 1080.
And nothing, I just get that funky symbol in IE. Don't know much about networking and this whole SOCKS5 Proxy, but not sure if this exists for Windows.
Perhaps "approved by and distributed through the iPhone App Store" is all the qualification one needs for it to be "FORMATTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH AT&T'S CONTENT STANDARDS"?
Yes, if they really want to find you and do extra analysis they can, but just looking for extra IPs won't find you. Besides, who's to say you aren't running a wow client locally on the iPhone under emulation?
Seriously though, the iPhone is a general purpose computer. We already have over 1000 apps in the App Store, that will probably be over 10,000 by next year. Any service/port/etc you can imagine will likely be used by some app at some point. How can they tell the difference? Hell, I bet someone gets vmware running on the iPhone at some point!
one only need look to blackberry for an analog. (i know i know, mac forum, hear me out).
On Verizon w/ a blackberry, you can have both A) truly "unlimited" data while using the blackberry directly, and B) a "capped" 5 GB tethering plan when using a connected computer. they are quite capable of keeping track (and do keep track) of the 2 data streams. dunno how, but they definitely know one from the other.
The reason they have the caps is to keep excessive use off the network (or at least to have a means to punish you for excessive use), like P2P, torrents, streaming video, etc. You think the network can all of a sudden handle tethered phones running as broadband modems? No. You think they'll let you do it for free? i would sell short on ATT if they do.
Not trying to be defeatist, but would hate to see a bunch of people paying for a service they thought would be free.
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On Verizon w/ a blackberry, you can have both A) truly "unlimited" data while using the blackberry directly, and B) a "capped" 5 GB tethering plan when using a connected computer. they are quite capable of keeping track (and do keep track) of the 2 data streams. dunno how, but they definitely know one from the other.
The reason they have the caps is to keep excessive use off the network (or at least to have a means to punish you for excessive use), like P2P, torrents, streaming video, etc. You think the network can all of a sudden handle tethered phones running as broadband modems? No. You think they'll let you do it for free? i would sell short on ATT if they do.
Not trying to be defeatist, but would hate to see a bunch of people paying for a service they thought would be free.
my .02
It's not a regular proxy server, so you can't just put it in the regular proxy area. You need to set it up as a socks5 proxy. Don't ask me how, I haven't run windows since 1995.
Same here, I can ping the phone and even telnet to 192.168.10.1 on port 1080 but I can't get safari to load any webpages.
In the netShare app I see the Out: field jump up to 0.02 KB/Sec for a second when I press return in Safari to load a url but Connections field stays at 0 and the In: field always shows 0.00 KB/sec
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QUESTION: If I want to keep track of how much I use ( because of the possible 5gb limit) does the data usage amount on the iphone correctly display the amount that was used while tethered? Or is there any other way I can see the data received in the app?
I don't think you understand how this works. It is a SOCK5 proxy so it will only work with Applications that support use of a proxy. Safari will work, iChat will work with some changes to configuration which you have to revert when not using it and Firefox will work with config changes again.
This is not a substitute for a 3G air card. It is only useful in an emergency situation for people without a cellular data card for their laptop when they cannot get WiFi where they currently are.
iTunes will not work nor will a number of other internet reliant apps that do not support SOCK5 proxies.
Also, even unlimited data plans have a 5GB soft cap which means that if you pass that cap every month, they will start billing you or cancel your service and bill you for the cancellation fee.
I have a 6GB hard cap data plan and I only plan on using this app on rare occasions when I really need to connect and wifi is not available. It looks like I can use this with the Mac Citrix client in such emergency situations where I'd have to connect to work while on the road which is good.
I'd assume since you were using the Edge/3G network it would display correctly. Reset it and then run a couple of web pages off a tethered computer and see if the phone displays the information.
Anyone who decides to engage in P2P file transfers while tethered will be painting a big bullseye on their back. Its akin to kicking a guy in the nuts and hoping he doesn't notice...
Well, one business case might actually encourage this. You have a lot of push now for people to buy a cell phone with a more expensive plan to handle all their voice calls and drop their home phone. And a lot of people, especially the younger generation, are doing just this. Bell is laying people off because of this and losing money.
Why not encourage data use so that one day people will ditch their home DSL/Cable as well as their home phone and buy everything from AT&T/Rogers, whoever? Sure, there would be some growing pains and additional build-out required, but you have to think ahead. A company taking the right steps could generate a lot of goodwill and customer support and would have a large pool of future customers to draw from. Plus the company could position itself as the leader of "pure wireless" or whatever they want to call it.
One device, one phone, one Internet, anywhere in the world. Common, where's the vision?
I'd imagine the information given on AT&T's Account Overview page would be fairly accurate in finding your usage.
I was able to activate the VPN connection on the iPhone after using Netshare for my MacBook's internet connection. I was able to see my company webpage. Remote desktop wouldnt work though. I suppose its a port issue.
Followed the posted instructions and am now using my iPhone to post this comment through my Macbook Air!